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1/27/2008 9:01:46 PM

Support Cancer Research and the NCSU Wolfpack With Your Computer's Spare Time!

What Is It?
Essentially the http://folding.stanford.edu/ uses your unused CPU cycles to model how proteins fold in the human body. The misfolding of proteins is often involved in well known diseases, such as Alzheimer’s, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, and Parkinson’s disease. Because this endeavor requires massive amounts of computing power, their project uses spare CPU time on computers that would otherwise sit idle in homes and businesses across the world. Here at North Carolina State University, we have formed this team in order to donate our spare CPU time to help this important endeavor.

The North Carolina State University (http://ncsufolding.com) Folding@Home Team (Team # 59) was one of the first teams to join the Folding@Home project, and was the very first University-based team to join. We are currently ranked in the top 100 in the world and are ramping up production in an effort to make it into the Top 50. We are all dedicated to doing our part to help end some of these terrible diseases, and we would appreciate the company of anyone who would like to help.

All it takes is the installation of a small piece of software and your computer will start completing Work Units for the project and the team. The Folding@Home process runs at the lowest possible priority so you can run it 24X7 without slowing down your computer or interfering with your everyday computing tasks. If you have a Sony PS3 Game Console you can also run Folding@Home (http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-PS3) on it with great results.

How Can I Help?

Go to http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download,download and install the software. Our Team Number is 59.

Click here - http://www.ncsufolding.com/?page_id=4 for more detailed installation instructions.

Windows Computers:
We recommend using the "text-only console” client for most windows computers. If you have a dual/quad/etc core processor, be sure to install and run the SMP client to get you and the team far more points than the standard console client (but sometimes it has problems starting as a service, so you might have to restart the client manually or automatically via startup folder when your computer restarts). In general, its best to stay away from the graphical clients. If you have a Pentium 4 with Hyperthreading, its best to turn off Hyperthreading in the BIOS if you know how. Feel free to post in this thread with any questions.

Mac and Linux Computers:
There are both "text-only" consoles and SMP clients for Linux and Macintosh computers too! If you have a dual/quad/etc core processor be sure to run the SMP client as you'll get far more points than the text-only client. But the text-only clients also help out too if you only have single-core processors.

PS3:
PS3s currently provide over 60% of the processing power in the Folding@home network and are capable of producing many points for the team. If you have PS3 system version 1.6 or later, you will see a Folding@Home icon in the Network column of the XMB (PS3 Networking menu). Just click on the icon and that's it. If you don't have 1.6 or later, perform a system upgrade. Make sure to use Team #59!

The more computers and PS3s you run the clients on, the more points your username and the NCSU team earns! Install as many clients as you can and watch your username/team progress at the stats page - http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59

Links

Team Links:
NCSU F@H Team Website: http://www.ncsufolding.com
NCSU F@H Team Discussion: http://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=118820
NCSU F@H Team Facebook Group: http://ncst.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5012521644

F@H Links:
F@H Project Homepage: http://folding.stanford.edu/
F@H Official Forums: http://forum.folding-community.org
F@H Wikipedia Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding@home
F@H Wiki Site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folding@home

Stats:
Stats1: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59
Stats2: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Stats
Monitor your production: http://fahmon.net
Compare your production with other users: http://fahinfo.org

1/27/2008 10:05:48 PM

Do you have that set as a macro or something?

1/27/2008 11:01:09 PM

no, whomever posts the first post on the next page tries to cut/paste it so that it's always at the top of the thread, no matter what page anyone is on.

1/28/2008 12:08:29 AM

here's my FAHmon for people's reference on PPD.
home - E8400 stock 3.0Ghz, OC to 3.6Ghz = ~2100PPD
work - E6600 stock 2.4Ghz
laptop - T2310 stock 1.46Ghz

oh and BTW, swapping out my old E6600 for the new E8400 solved my FILE_IO_ERROR, apparently it WAS a hardware issue, my desktop has been cranking with no problems now for 2 days or so



[Edited on January 28, 2008 at 5:31 PM. Reason : ,]

1/28/2008 5:29:36 PM

^ you folding all three 24X7? If so you should be well over 5K PPD in no time

assuming ~1600PPD on the e6600 and ~750PPD on the T2310...but now that I think about u might not be running the e6600 because of the errors

1/28/2008 5:41:40 PM

notice the 3961 PPD in the lower right hand corner of the image
and you can also see by the image the E6600 as i described as my work computer is at 1350 PPD
my home desktop USED to have the E6600 which is now the E8400 you can see is putting out the 1905 PPD

and yes i'm folding all (3) 24/7

do you have photobucket blocked or something?

[Edited on January 28, 2008 at 5:50 PM. Reason : .]

1/28/2008 5:49:17 PM

Booo! My gorilla folding machines got rebooted. Two had WUs and 90%. I'll re-commender them tomorrow morning.

1/28/2008 6:59:13 PM

you jumped 17 places in the last 24 hours and 109 places in the last 6 days

not an easy task

[Edited on January 28, 2008 at 7:06 PM. Reason : .]

1/28/2008 7:06:08 PM

Nice work!

1/28/2008 7:50:56 PM

Quote :

"notice the 3961 PPD in the lower right hand corner of the image and you can also see by the image the E6600 as i described as my work computer is at 1350 PPD my home desktop USED to have the E6600 which is now the E8400 you can see is putting out the 1905 PPD and yes i'm folding all (3) 24/7 do you have photobucket blocked or something?"

yeah I was at work when I read your post, so the photobucket image didn't appear (didn't even see a placeholder).

But yeah, I guess I took your 2100 estimate and overestimated the other two 4K is still pretty badass tho.

1/28/2008 8:04:59 PM

i'm thinking about postering EB1 and EB2 again...and maybe other buildings if anyone has any others they think would be good. anyone wanna help me post some flyers? i can print them out.

1/28/2008 8:07:03 PM

gg scanzero! you add some more machines or something?

1/30/2008 1:02:02 AM

i think i'm going to move up about 5 positions once i submit my next WU

1/30/2008 4:52:40 AM

The work unit would not upload for me last night. Has this happened to anyone before?

1/30/2008 10:30:49 AM

Most likly the server is down that the WU needs to be sent to. You can check the status here.
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/serverstat.html
There are quite a few down. We need to put this on the team site.

1/30/2008 10:42:28 AM

The problem with gorilla folding is that your machines can be rebooted for their intended purposes at any moment without warning. Stupid legitimate computer lab users.

1/30/2008 10:59:46 AM

yo where is that fahmon program? i want it to calculate my shit

1/30/2008 1:08:31 PM

it's in that post on the top of each page
http://fahmon.net/

1/30/2008 1:11:04 PM

2 computers and my ps3 started up today

1/30/2008 6:12:59 PM

nice! welcome to the team!!!

1/30/2008 8:33:34 PM

nice! welcome to the team!!!

1/30/2008 8:37:09 PM

yay up to 92 now

1/30/2008 8:42:20 PM

Quote :

"assuming ~1600PPD on the e6600 and ~750PPD on the T2310...but now that I think about u might not be running the e6600 because of the errors "

How do you manage so many ppd? My quad running 24/7 is only managing 800 or so ppd.

1/30/2008 9:12:44 PM

I think my smp client is fucked up.

here's the logs.

from logfile_01.txt in the work directory.

Quote :

" *------------------------------* Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core Version 1.74 (March 10, 2007) Preparing to commence simulation - Ensuring status. Please wait. - Assembly optimizations manually forced on. - Not checking prior termination. - Expanded 2953967 -> 15205923 (decompressed 514.7 percent) - Starting from initial work packet Project: 2653 (Run 20, Clone 198, Gen 51) Assembly optimizations on if available. Entering M.D. Protein: Protein in PProtein: Protein in POPCExtra SSE boost OK.ExExtra SSE boost OK. Writing local files Completed 0 out of 500000 steps (0 percent) "

1/30/2008 9:33:26 PM

and from FAHlog.txt

Quote :

" --- Opening Log file [January 31 02:24:44] # SMP Client ################################################################## ############################################################################### Folding@Home Client Version 5.91beta5 http://folding.stanford.edu ############################################################################### ############################################################################### Launch directory: C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01 Service: C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01\fah Arguments: -svcstart -forceasm Launched as a service. Entered C:\Program Files\Folding@Home Windows SMP Client V1.01 to do work. Warning: By using the -forceasm flag, you are overriding safeguards in the program. If you did not intend to do this, please restart the program without -forceasm. If work units are not completing fully (and particularly if your machine is overclocked), then please discontinue use of the flag. [02:24:44] - Ask before connecting: No [02:24:44] - Use IE connection settings: Yes [02:24:44] - User name: RaidenNCSU (Team 59) [02:24:44] - User ID: 7507F30106FB8481 [02:24:44] - Machine ID: 1 [02:24:44] [02:24:44] Loaded queue successfully. [02:24:44] [02:24:44] + Processing work unit [02:24:44] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe [02:24:44] Core found. [02:24:44] Working on Unit 00 [January 31 02:24:44] [02:24:44] + Working ... [02:24:44] [02:24:44] *------------------------------* [02:24:44] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core [02:24:45] Version 1.74 (March 10, 2007) [02:24:45] [02:24:45] Preparing to commence simulation [02:24:45] - Ensuring status. Please wait. [02:25:01] - Assembly optimizations manually forced on. [02:25:01] - Not checking prior termination. [02:27:01] [02:27:01] Folding@home Core Shutdown: MISSING_WORK_FILES [02:27:01] Finalizing output [02:27:04] CoreStatus = 1 (1) [02:27:04] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0x1 [02:27:04] Deleting current work unit & continuing... [02:29:24] - Preparing to get new work unit... [02:29:24] + Attempting to get work packet [02:29:24] - Connecting to assignment server [02:29:26] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.65.64). [02:29:26] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home [02:29:26] Loaded queue successfully. [02:29:52] + Closed connections [02:29:57] [02:29:57] + Processing work unit [02:29:57] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe [02:29:57] Core found. [02:29:57] Working on Unit 01 [January 31 02:29:57] [02:29:57] + Working ... [02:29:58] [02:29:58] *------------------------------* [02:29:58] Folding@Home Gromacs SMP Core [02:29:58] Version 1.74 (March 10, 2007) [02:29:58] [02:29:58] Preparing to commence simulation [02:29:58] - Ensuring status. Please wait. [02:30:15] - Assembly optimizations manually forced on. [02:30:15] - Not checking prior termination. [02:30:26] - Expanded 2953967 -> 15205923 (decompressed 514.7 percent) [02:30:26] - Starting from initial work packet [02:30:27] [02:30:27] Project: 2653 (Run 20, Clone 198, Gen 51) [02:30:27] [02:30:27] lone 198, Gen 51) [02:30:27] [02:30:28] ons on if available. [02:30:28] Entering M.D. [02:30:28] ble. [02:30:28] Entering M.D. [02:30:34] t [02:30:35] otein: Protein in POPC [02:30:35] Writing local files [02:30:36] [02:30:36] [02:30:36] tra SSE boost OK. [02:30:37] . [02:30:38] Writing local files [02:30:38] Completed 0 out of 500000 steps (0 percent) "

1/30/2008 9:35:12 PM

and from unitinfo.txt

Quote :

"Current Work Unit ----------------- Name: Protein in POPC Tag: - Download time: January 31 02:29:52 Due time: February 4 02:29:52 Progress: 0% [__________] "

1/30/2008 9:35:42 PM

message file from Fahmon 2.3.1

[30/01/08 - 21:37:12] Reloading smp laptop
[30/01/08 - 21:37:12] PRCG found for smp laptop from FAHlog.txt: 2653/20/198/51
[30/01/08 - 21:37:12] smp laptop has an unknown state (Unable to find a complete frame)
[30/01/08 - 21:37:12] Cannot determine frame number for smp laptop (this isn't a problem)
[30/01/08 - 21:37:12] smp laptop [ETA] | avg=N/A | last=N/A

1/30/2008 9:36:58 PM

by the way, how do I monitor several machines (including ps3) from Fahmon 2.3.1?

1/30/2008 9:37:52 PM

Quote :

"How do you manage so many ppd? My quad running 24/7 is only managing 800 or so ppd. "

You are folding a Quad core, 24X7, using the SMP client, and you're only getting 800PPD??? I get nearly that much on an ancient mobile pentium dual core proc. what quad core chip do you have? I have a Q6600 and I get 2100 right out of the box.

Quote :

"I think my smp client is fucked up. here's the logs. from logfile_01.txt in the work directory. "

Theres nothing wrong with that first log file you posted...in fact I don't see anything wrong with anything you posted. is it not going up in percentages? is your cpu getting used 100%?

I don't know if you can monitor PS3 clients with FAHMON. google for "fahmon ps3" or something like that too find out.


oh, and are you still folding for the ECU team or did you change all your clients to team 59 yet?

1/30/2008 10:26:05 PM

They're all changed to 59.

just wondering if it was jacked up or not b/c I didn't really see any progress happening on the work unit when I tried to use fahmon 2.3.1. the cpu is at 100% due to the smp clients.

I guess it just takes a lil while for fahmon 2.3.1 to start reading what the smp client is doing.


still trying to figure out how to get fahmon 2.3.1 to monitor my other machines so I can see what they are all doing.

1/30/2008 10:47:21 PM

Share out your FAH directory on your other machine, let's say it's called "Tracer", then when you right click and "Add a new client", Name should be "Tracer" and Location should be "//tracer/fah/" ... or use the IP such as "//192.168.1.11/fah/" for your local subnet or "//5.16.101.74/fah/" if using Hamachi, etc etc. I don't guess I need to detail this too much. Feel free to ask if you still can't get it to work.

Oh, AFAIK FahMon uses forward slashes "/" for the address-space, however try back slashes "\" if it doesn't work for you.

1/30/2008 11:06:41 PM

Quote :

"You are folding a Quad core, 24X7, using the SMP client, and you're only getting 800PPD??? I get nearly that much on an ancient mobile pentium dual core proc. what quad core chip do you have? I have a Q6600 and I get 2100 right out of the box."

It's the Core 2 Quad 2.6Ghz .It's the SMP client (command like, task mgr confirms all four cores are cranking away).

1/30/2008 11:17:59 PM

yep that worked. damn there's a big difference between the smp client and the other client.

1/30/2008 11:18:18 PM

^^If you use your computer a lot then it will lower the PPD because you are stealing processing power away from FAH. You're fine. Just noticed, Quad-core ... ok you should check your idle w/o FAH running to be sure ... also make sure your config options are set to receive big units too.

^Good to hear, and yes, very big difference. Between putting multiple cores onto one chip and the technological increases in processing power per core, the Dual/Quad+ core processors are great at what they do when compared to P4s!

CPU comparison chart: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html

[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 1:54 AM. Reason : correction]

1/31/2008 1:49:06 AM

got it all up and running.

was going to have 3 smp clients running, but one of my laptops is only single processor.


haven't found anything that'll let me monitor the ps3 yet. but at least I'm turning out some good production with the 3 laptops and the ps3.

1/31/2008 2:09:59 AM

^ i still don't see how you're only getting ~1100 PPD with a Q6600 quad core...i'm getting nearly double that. did you set it up to receive big workunits? do you do a lot of other processor intensive stuff with that computer?

1/31/2008 8:58:54 AM

Why do people keep fucking with the 2 machines gorilla folding in a 60 seat lab!?!

1/31/2008 10:41:05 AM

now i'm getting the 0x7b (luckily not on the q6600)

Quote :

"[12:51:11] Completed 190000 out of 500000 steps (38 percent) [13:24:04] Writing local files [13:24:04] Completed 195000 out of 500000 steps (39 percent) [13:57:17] Writing local files [13:57:18] Completed 200000 out of 500000 steps (40 percent) [14:33:45] Writing local files [14:33:45] Completed 205000 out of 500000 steps (41 percent) [14:45:02] CoreStatus = 7B (123) [14:45:02] Client-core communications error: ERROR 0x7b [14:45:02] Deleting current work unit & continuing... [14:45:15] - Preparing to get new work unit... [14:45:15] + Attempting to get work packet"

strangely i'm also getting this one...

Quote :

"[14:46:01] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe [14:46:01] Core found. [14:46:01] Working on Unit 02 [January 31 14:46:01] [14:46:01] + Working ... [14:46:05] CoreStatus = 63 (99) [14:46:05] + Error starting Folding@Home core. [14:46:10] [14:46:10] + Processing work unit [14:46:10] Core required: FahCore_a1.exe"

1/31/2008 5:55:17 PM

^i'm still getting those, after i thought i had solved it with a brand new CPU

i've now gone through memory, cpu and motherboard and same issues folding, i'm beginning to think i need a clean XP install

[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 7:02 PM. Reason : .]

1/31/2008 7:02:27 PM

are you getting the 0x7b and the 99, or just the first?

1/31/2008 7:07:08 PM

both, first the 0x7b, then the 99, then it works, then another 0x7b, then another 99, then throw in a FILE_IO_ERROR for good measure

1/31/2008 7:35:13 PM

Could just be problems with the beta smp client ... not likely, but...

2/1/2008 12:33:33 AM

well from what i've read these codes are not codes coming from the F@H client but rather the mpi service which is an OS thing

CoreStatus = 63 (99)
+ Error starting Folding@Home core.

Quote :

"With the SMP for Windows client, a CoreStatus = 63 can either be a permissions problem or a MPI registration problem, or both. To fix the problem, set the properties of the fah.exe file to "Run as Administrator" and then run the "install.bat" file again to register MPI and the SMPD service. Failure to install .NET 2.0 (Win 2K, XP) prior to installing the SMP client can also result in this error. "

CoreStatus = 7B (123)
Client-core communications error: ERROR 0x7b
Deleting current work unit & continuing...

Quote :

"This is an unknown error from the fahlog of SMP clients. Because 0x7b is not defined in the F@h client or SMP fahcore, it is believed to be a Windows or SMPD/MPICH error code. Known causes are unstable systems from too much overclocking, changing network settings while the client is running, or stopping restarting the client. The error is also caused by Windows updates that need to restart your machine. See the List of Known Issues. Folding-community: Error 0x7b Folding-community: Kasson' post in Error 0x7b Folding-community: List of known issues - SMP Windows Client Here's one more possiblity: (0X7B Problem with Windows SMP Client solved by MichaelO) The 0X7B Error that many folks have gotten when using the Windows SMP client is not an error from the Folding Client, but rather from Windows itself according to the Folding Forums, Wiki, etc. I had increasingly started having this problem on one of my machines. This morning I was notified that my Acronis backups had failed in the Verify Step. Upon researching this error in the Acronis forums, it was suggested that the Acronis error was caused by a memory fault. I found this a little hard to swallow at first but after having 0X7B problems this morning after rebooting to try and solve my backup issue I decided to start changing the memory, and sure enough, once I replace my 2 x 1024 memory Pair the problems in both Acronis and the Folding Client disappeared. Based on this, I would suggest that if you start getting errors on the folding client, you should first try testing your installed memory thoroughly. Windows XP is fairly forgiving about memory faults but Vista is more stringent, and the SMP Client, especially on a dual core is also not very forgiving once the memory starts to go bad. "

http://fahwiki.net/index.php/CoreStatus_codes

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 12:39 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 12:40 AM. Reason : ,]

2/1/2008 12:34:36 AM

Damnit. My department sysadmin altered the options of the lab machines I've been using for gorilla folding to require a password to boot from a CD. I was going to to process like 60,000 points worth of WUs over the weekend. Stupid notions of proper allocations of resources and not abusing university equipment for unintended purposes...

2/1/2008 6:25:58 PM

You shouldn't have done it during the week and only for the weekend when nobody would notice.

2/1/2008 6:36:28 PM

that bastard

time to find a new lab

2/1/2008 7:15:22 PM

^ There's not many labs on campus that will run SMP units that don't get a lot of traffic. I'm tempted to go in and reset the BIOS on all the machines to clear the BIOS passwords. I think the cases are locks though.

2/1/2008 9:20:46 PM

UPDATE YOUR SMP CLIENTS

my beta clients expired Feb 2nd.

2/2/2008 6:53:14 AM

i was told they expire after 2 months

[Edited on February 2, 2008 at 10:06 AM. Reason : ok mine isnt starting so i guess it expired]

2/2/2008 9:56:14 AM