^I would like that as well actually if you do not mind.

3/4/2010 8:12:52 AM

PM sent to both of you

3/4/2010 8:15:01 AM

^^^ if you want it just to buy one handgun its a hell of a lot cheaper and faster to goto the sheriffs office and get a gun permit. Takes 2 days and costs $5/ permit and you can buy 5 at a time. You fill it out one day and pick up the permit the next day.

For concealed carry you have the class costs + $90 or 95 CCW permit cost and 3 months of waiting.

3/4/2010 9:04:50 AM

Thanks NRR.

I'll be having my next class on April 10th. The cost is $60. If anyone is interested, just shoot me a PM and I will send you more details.

3/4/2010 9:12:08 AM

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"^^^ if you want it just to buy one handgun its a hell of a lot cheaper and faster to goto the sheriffs office and get a gun permit. Takes 2 days and costs $5/ permit and you can buy 5 at a time. You fill it out one day and pick up the permit the next day. For concealed carry you have the class costs + $90 or 95 CCW permit cost and 3 months of waiting"

all of this is dependent on the county. for example, my county is same day - you go to the sheriff's office, fill out the form, hand it to the secretary and she gives you a purchase permit... as many as you'd like. durham county is probably quite different than that.

and while it may be more time & financially effective to get purchase permit for a single purchase, I always recommend the CHP for the classroom training, convenience of carrying, and ability to trade/buy a new pistol at anytime.

3/4/2010 9:27:09 AM

thanks NRR, and Rush I tossed you an email inquiring about further details, thanks!

3/4/2010 11:41:46 AM

^^yeah I definitely had longer than a couple day wait to get my purchase permits... It was still less than I waited for my ccp but it wasn't something you could get the week of a gunshow and hope to have it


This was in wake fwiw

3/4/2010 12:23:04 PM

$175 for the bersa

3/6/2010 10:24:54 AM

randolph county is so much better for this.. walk in, pay money, walk out with permit

[Edited on March 6, 2010 at 10:42 AM. Reason : asdf]

3/6/2010 10:42:42 AM

can you get permits in another county? what do they go by to see where you live?

3/6/2010 3:01:31 PM

i can't remember..and it's been a few years since i've gotten one so not sure if it's the same

i doubt you can just go to any county though

3/6/2010 3:30:24 PM

They go by whatever is on your Driver's Liscense

3/6/2010 4:15:24 PM

There is a way to apply for a purchase permit in a county other than where you reside, but I can't remember exactly what it is. Seems like you have to petition the sheriff, and the only way you are eligible is if you list the reason for the purchase as "collecting" or something like that.

Edit:
Actually, I think that is only for out-of-state residents

[Edited on March 6, 2010 at 4:27 PM. Reason : ^]

3/6/2010 4:27:21 PM

Yeah pete, only for outsiders.

As it is the only place you can apply for a permit is the county you have registered as your permanent address with the state (aka whats on your DL)

3/6/2010 9:38:45 PM

Mossberg 500 18" 12ga barrel. A scratch or 2 near the muzzle. $80.

3/7/2010 7:43:34 PM

^PM sent.

3/7/2010 11:26:49 PM

On purchasing permits...
When I was a student at state my home address was in Durham. We all know Durham sucks and it would be much easier to go to the Wake office just because it's close.
I called them and told them I live in Raleigh because I'm a student but I haven't changed my DL. The lady said it'd be fine if I brought in some mail with my current address. I took a bank statement and some school mail with my Raleigh address and they let me have some pistol purchasing permits.
It won't hurt to ask the local sheriff's office.

3/8/2010 10:03:10 AM

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"Mossberg 500 18" 12ga barrel. A scratch or 2 near the muzzle. $80."

500A?

3/8/2010 1:03:35 PM

Sorry guys, that is just the 18" barrel for sale, not a gun.

3/8/2010 2:17:30 PM

3 stocks and 3 butt plates for $40.00 FOB Hillsborough st. The Benelli is obvious, but no idea what the others are for. The one butt plate with the squirrel is for a Marlin, I think.

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3/9/2010 11:30:03 AM

And I have a vertical fore-gripe with battery storage for a rail for $20.00.

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http://www.thewolfweb.com/photo_photo.aspx?user=19266&photo=513715

3/9/2010 3:32:50 PM

And, a JP Enterprises JP Tactical cmpensator for bull barrel, 1.2" outside diameter, tapered to .925 barrel with 5/8 x 24 thread. .350 exit hole for .30 caliber brand new.

From them is is 99.95+ s&H = for sale at 75.00

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3/9/2010 3:46:23 PM

Trying to sell "DPMS AR-15 Flattop Upper Assembly 223 Remington 1 in 8" Twist 24" Bull Barrel Stainless Steel with Free Float Handguard". Includes bolt carrier assembly. Upper is stripped, so no forward assist or dust cover.

Bought it in October for a trip I was taking to Texas. There is a small scratch on the free float handguard thanks to it shifting in the case during the flight. Broke in the barrel in per manufacturer's instructions. Including the break in the upper has seen about 100 rounds. Very accurate. I couldn't promise what the MOA on it would be, but I had no problem destroying jackrabbits at 300 yards and even killed a deer with it over Thanksgiving. I love this but I need to raise some cash to pay for my honeymoon in June.

$400 cash OBO

I also have a "Leatherwood Hi-Lux ATR Professional Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 2.5-10x 44mm Mil-Dot Reticle Matte" mounted on it with "Burris 30mm Xtreme Tactical rings". I will include it for another $200.

PM me with any offers or questions.

THIS IS AN UPPER ONLY, YOU MUST HAVE AN AR15 LOWER TO MAKE IT GO BANG.

3/13/2010 1:49:44 AM

^Pics?

3/13/2010 7:17:55 AM

I will get some pics after the weekend, you can find a picture of that model on the dpms website as well.

3/13/2010 11:13:10 PM

^^
This? http://www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=802&cat=1851



the site says it's a 1 in 9 twist, big difference.

[Edited on March 13, 2010 at 11:51 PM. Reason : e]

3/13/2010 11:50:16 PM

The one I have is another model. The only difference is the twist rate, no dust cover and no forward assist. Other than that, it looks the same.



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3/15/2010 2:45:28 PM

Ruger Mini-30 w/tactical stock and 3-9x scope (bushnell i think)
Comes with 2x5 round flush factory mags and 5x30 round pro mags
$500

3/16/2010 8:01:09 AM

GSG-5 Pistol .22lr
3 22 round mags
1 10 round mag
everything else that came with it
$400


DTI AR-15
6 30 round mags
$700


S&W Sigma 40
4 16 round mags
everything else that came with it
$200


[Edited on March 16, 2010 at 9:53 AM. Reason : a]

3/16/2010 9:52:46 AM

How much wear on the AR and the Sigma?

I'm quite interested in both.

3/16/2010 11:34:40 AM

Someone buy my ruger!!!

3/18/2010 7:44:34 PM

I'd offer you money, but it'd be horribly less than what you're asking.

3/20/2010 12:38:55 PM

Sigma and AR sold.

GSG is still available

3/22/2010 4:13:06 PM

Looking for a used 18-20'' Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 pump-action for a friend who wants a basic home defense option.

3/24/2010 12:28:13 PM

should be getting my pistol permit next week...what do people have in the way of a decent target shooter? looking for value here, not top of the line (something that uses cheap, easily found ammo would be nice, too)

[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 12:33 PM. Reason : .]

3/24/2010 12:33:22 PM

check out the sig mosquito. i bought one off tww and i love it. affordable gun and affordable ammo.

3/24/2010 6:59:26 PM

are you looking for simply target shooting?

or something that you can use for personal defense that won't kill your wallet at the range?


if it is the former, I would suggest any of the ruger 22lr pistols (the 22/45 is designed to feel like a 1911 for target shooting)- but any 22lr pistol will do the job


if it is the later, I would suggest something in 9mm semiautomatic... and from there the possibilities are endless. I like S&W, XD, Taurus, Sig, ... well the list goes on... I am not huge on glocks but that is more because of the hype they have for them as opposed to the gun itself (I found their 45 to be pretty darn accurate and consistent), and don't think they are really a bad gun- I just wouldn't get one myself. For these polymer frame guns, you really just need to go test out and see what you like

3/24/2010 7:17:09 PM

Quote :

"re you looking for simply target shooting? or something that you can use for personal defense that won't kill your wallet at the range?"

the goal is simply target shooting...i'm not planning on carrying it with me out and about, but i suppose i wouldn't hesitate to pull it out if someone broke into the house or something

my knowledge regarding pistols is pretty limited, but i understand that knocking-down power is pretty important for personal defense, and this something a .22 doesn't have...but like i said, i won't be carrying it around

3/25/2010 9:38:46 AM

You'll want to do either a 22 or 9mm. You really need to decide whether you want any self defense properties because it's a huge difference in cost. You can shoot for a week with 22 for the same cost that you'd spend in an hour or two with 9mm. There's also a fair difference in pistol cost as well. The .22 will give you the potential to scare someone but it's not going to do much from a defensive standpoint.

Personally, if there's any desire toward self defense, I'd go ahead and go with a 9mm. If you don't plan on carrying it, get something with a longer barrel like a Glock 17 or Springfield XD9 Tactical (or Springfield's new XDm9). The extra barrel length (5" in this case, 4" is more common) will help with accuracy. The Glock & Springfield are both good values and are easy to find used. Their popularity helps them hold their value too if you decide to sell it later on. http://www.budsgunshop.com is a good place to check prices. Remember, ordering from there will require you to find a local FFL to receive the gun and that's an extra charge so consider that and the extra hassle when shopping.

If you decide to go with the .22, a Ruger Mark III or 22/45 is going to be one of your best bets. They're 2 of the most popular .22 pistols made. The 22/45 is basically a Mark III with a different grip angle (closer to the "standard" of a 1911) from what I understand (I'm not a .22 guy). The Sig Mosquito and Walther P22 are two other popular choices but they seem to be pretty picky on ammo. Plus side to them is that they are more like a "real" pistol in the way that it looks & feels.

If you're really up in the air, get up with some people from here for a range day. Most of us (gun guys) are pretty easy going and don't mind helping someone figure out what they want by trying a range of different guns. I'm not in the area so I'm out but it seems several of the people here go to PDHSC fairly regularly. Talk to whoever you're going to go with about what you need to do. Some will let you shoot for free, some want you to bring your own ammo, some want you to pay for their ammo (usually they don't want cheap ammo possibly gunking up the works), etc. Whatever you choose, good luck. It's a very enjoyable (and often addictive) hobby.

*edit* forgot to add: Knockdown power doesn't really exist in a pistol. People love to talk about it but pistols are really pretty poor man stoppers. This is why shot placement is key. A 10mm isn't going to be less use than a .22 if you can't hit anything with it. That's one of the reasons that 9mm is so popular. Hit what you're aiming at. Everything else is secondary.

[Edited on March 25, 2010 at 6:10 PM. Reason : .]

3/25/2010 6:06:30 PM

quagmire02, I was in your boat about 6 months ago and it came down to would I really be ready to pull a gun for defense when I'm not really that proficient in general? I talked to a bunch of guys and decided to go with a .22 first and then think about a larger caliber once I felt comfortable with pistols in general.

I got a Ruger 22/45 based on advice and definitely feel it was the best choice for me. I tried a MkIII but felt the grip angle was too slanted. The action is a bit different from other semiauto pistols but it will literally take any .22 ammo. I've put about 2000 rounds through it (probably 5 different brands) since and loved it. Ammo is extremely cheap, you end up paying more for the lane at the range than over an hour's worth of ammo.

Last week I bought a .45 1911 that I will be getting accustomed to, and at that point I will consider leaving it loaded nearby at night. It's a judgement call that's different for everyone, but it's never a bad thing to have a cheap gun to shoot when you feel like spending the day plinking cans or target shooting.

If you want to try either let me know, I'll spot you any of the .22 ammo and we can split the .45 ammo if you wanna try that.

3/26/2010 12:44:37 AM

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"Personally, if there's any desire toward self defense, I'd go ahead and go with a 9mm."

i really don't have any desire (at the moment, anyway) toward self defense, past the scare factor...i used to shoot rifles competitively, but i know very little about anything outside of .22 rifles, and then it's really just how to shoot and clean (it's been a long time, in any case)

Quote :

"If you decide to go with the .22, a Ruger Mark III or 22/45 is going to be one of your best bets. They're 2 of the most popular .22 pistols made. The 22/45 is basically a Mark III with a different grip angle (closer to the "standard" of a 1911) from what I understand (I'm not a .22 guy)."

stupid question...22 ammo is .22 ammo, right? i have a box of cheap federal rounds in my closet that i use with my rifle (on the rare occasions when i take it out these days), so i assume that the ruger can use it?

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"Knockdown power doesn't really exist in a pistol. People love to talk about it but pistols are really pretty poor man stoppers. This is why shot placement is key. A 10mm isn't going to be less use than a .22 if you can't hit anything with it. That's one of the reasons that 9mm is so popular. Hit what you're aiming at. Everything else is secondary."

ah, that's good to hear, and it makes sense...i mean, i can understand how some are better suited to stopping someone, but it's always made sense to me that your ability to shoot accurately has more to do with it than the gun you use (to an extent, of course)

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"I was in your boat about 6 months ago and it came down to would I really be ready to pull a gun for defense when I'm not really that proficient in general? I talked to a bunch of guys and decided to go with a .22 first and then think about a larger caliber once I felt comfortable with pistols in general. I got a Ruger 22/45 based on advice and definitely feel it was the best choice for me. I tried a MkIII but felt the grip angle was too slanted. The action is a bit different from other semiauto pistols but it will literally take any .22 ammo. I've put about 2000 rounds through it (probably 5 different brands) since and loved it. Ammo is extremely cheap, you end up paying more for the lane at the range than over an hour's worth of ammo."

this is good to hear...i figured i'd rather start out cheap (upfront and ammo costs, both) and see if i like it...there was a time when i lived with my parents in high school, on a farm, when i'd just take off for a few hours and plink around...it's very relaxing

Quote :

"If you want to try either let me know, I'll spot you any of the .22 ammo and we can split the .45 ammo if you wanna try that."

i appreciate the offer! i might very well take you up on it sometime soon, when i have a weekend or evening available

i assume stainless is preferable to blued? looks like there's a ~$80 premium for it

i would like to try them out before even really looking for anything in particular, but is there anything like a craigslist for guns, something local (since CL doesn't allow the posting of firearms)? being the cheap bastard that i am, i'd love to find little-used, well-maintained piece for half the price of new

again, thanks for all of the advice, y'all

3/26/2010 9:27:13 AM

i have a yugo m59 sks, all matching serial numbers i'm trying to sell, $300

4/3/2010 4:07:06 PM

^at $300 you are gonna be TRYING for a long time. Not too long ago PDHSC was selling them for $245 (some had all matching some didn't).

4/3/2010 7:45:33 PM

was unaware, just what i saw at the last show, id be willing to go as low as 250 if anyone is interested, but can't go any lower, if that sounds good to anyone send me a pm. thanks

4/4/2010 5:52:04 PM

anyone selling a Walther P22? in the market

4/6/2010 12:40:31 AM

Quote :

"stupid question...22 ammo is .22 ammo, right? i have a box of cheap federal rounds in my closet that i use with my rifle (on the rare occasions when i take it out these days), so i assume that the ruger can use it?"

"22" typically means 22LR or 22 long rifle. If someone says "22" then 99.987678665% of the time they're referring to 22LR.

There's also:
-22 short, which has a shorter case and is typically loaded with smaller (lighter) bullets
-22 long, which has the same case as a 22 long rifle but is loaded with 22 short bullets (shorter overall length than 22 LR)
-22 CB short (or "Colibri" made by Aguila), which is a 22 short case with little or no powder. It relies on the detonation of the primer to force the bullet out
-22 long CB, same as 22 CB short but with a longer case
-22 winchester magnum rimfire (WMR) that's a longer and fatter case than any of the others and typically loaded with 0.224" jacketed bullets (the 22S/L/LR is loaded with a 0.223" heeled bullet)

You also see oddball or obsolete 22s. There's the 22 sub sonic sniper made by Aguila that's a 22 short case loaded with a super heavy bullet such that the overall length is the same as a 22 LR.
CCI's Stinger and Quickshok 22LRs have cases that are slightly longer than a standard 22L/LR.
There's also the 22 Winchester Rimfire (WRF) that's basically the obsolete short/special version of the 22WMR.

So...to answer your question you're probably good to go with the ammo you have.
Just FYI, you can shoot any 22S/L/LR cartridge in a 22LR gun*, the thing is the shorter ones usually won't feed in an autoloader; you have to manually feed them.

*The long cased Stingers won't work in some 22LR match/Bentz chambers because those chambers are cut shorter for improved accuracy. The cartridge won't go fully into battery and will either not fire or you'll blow out the case heads.

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 3:47 PM. Reason : wow, I'm a nerd]

4/6/2010 3:39:51 PM

anyone have a stimulus deal <$100? I have a valid pistol permit, before you ask, would like either a shotgun (preferably not a breach load, but for my range atm i'm not gonna be picky), perhaps if someone has a 1911 frame in need of work, or an older .22 pistol. baiscally looking for >2 rounds at a time, and suitable for home defense.

if $100 isn't enough, no prob I will ask again when I get my money right.

I DO have an old single shot breach loading pellet rifle (the stock was cut down a little cause I was a kid when I got it, wasn't my idea trust me) that needs the gas chamber seals redone...it comes out in tufts of black when dry fired, be willing to add that to the cash I have on hand along with 7 boxes of .22 long, 5 are full, two have a few out of them.

thanks and stay safe

4/6/2010 3:56:47 PM

^^ I can't explain it, but to me, that was one badass post.

4/7/2010 12:27:47 AM

the man knows his shit

4/7/2010 10:50:06 AM

Not sure what you are hoping to get out of $100...If you are looking for something that actually functions and fires bullets or shot you might have to up that number.

4/7/2010 2:57:25 PM