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I think rwoody was joking about Andree.

4/1/2020 2:24:29 PM

Bullet
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oh yeah, duh

i knew he was joking about Braxton being a defensive specialist.... but I thought maybe the Andree thing was true since he was injured so much during the season, and then the season was cut short.

4/1/2020 2:35:34 PM

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Lol Andree played in 27 games.

4/1/2020 2:41:02 PM

dmspack
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i saw bullet's post about andree having another year (before i saw rwoody's) and admittedly i did go to twitter to see if it was being reported.

4/1/2020 5:37:45 PM

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Lol I wasn't even trying to do April fools thing, just poking Justin. I guess I forget how revered and respected I am as a consistent and accurate source of news around here....

4/1/2020 5:43:30 PM

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247 predicting jadun to NC State.

How does that affect our class ranking for 2020?

4/3/2020 7:17:04 PM

justinh524
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our class would still be ranked #8 according to 247.

4/3/2020 8:51:12 PM

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I'll still find a way to shit on it!!

But for real the bigger question is def whose spot is he taking

4/3/2020 9:36:29 PM

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well, since all the guys we're recruiting are wings, it's a good bet that whoever is likely leaving is also a wing/guard. if i had to guess, i'd say Taylor, Daniels, Beverly are the most likely (in that order.)

4/3/2020 11:17:50 PM

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FWIW the rumor mill is saying Farrar isn't going to qualify so maybe it's his spot. If it even works like that.

[Edited on April 4, 2020 at 1:14 AM. Reason : v]

4/4/2020 12:51:32 AM

justinh524
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i think freshman eligibility next year is going to be a very interesting thing to watch.

4/4/2020 1:41:51 AM

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Where is Beverly going to go?

4/4/2020 7:47:46 AM

dmspack
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He very likely will stay.

But he could potentially be eligible for a grad transfer season. Or overseas. We’ve seen plenty of dudes that have no NBA future yet they still leave to go get overseas money. Or maybe they just hate school. But BB in all likelihood ain’t going anywhere.

4/4/2020 8:11:20 AM

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I thought our recruiting class was top 5

4/4/2020 11:50:28 AM

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Lol

4/4/2020 1:51:51 PM

justinh524
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it was, before other teams got their best commitments.

4/4/2020 2:00:45 PM

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Jadun Michael picks....Elon?!?

[Edited on April 6, 2020 at 11:55 AM. Reason : Not a late April fools.... ]

4/6/2020 11:55:07 AM

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https://twitter.com/jay5mula/status/1247187440714100736?s=19

Welp

[Edited on April 6, 2020 at 11:59 AM. Reason : ^4* recruit picking Elon wow. I didn't see how they were even on the list.]

4/6/2020 11:56:52 AM

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He wasn't kidding about wanting to stay close to home apparently.

4/6/2020 12:27:36 PM

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"FWIW the rumor mill is saying Farrar isn't going to qualify so maybe it's his spot."


Where did you hear this? Never seen 1 word about Farrar before this.

4/6/2020 12:39:04 PM

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Shouldnt all kids go through the draft process?

4/6/2020 1:17:36 PM

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Yes if they have any desire to play at the NBA level.

4/6/2020 1:28:10 PM

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Literally every player on our team (and every other team) should have declared for the draft. Since they changed the rule and made it so you can declare multiple times, there is no downside to it. At all.

[Edited on April 6, 2020 at 3:33 PM. Reason : I mean I guess you could end up with a bruised ego.]

4/6/2020 3:32:00 PM

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"Top 5 recruiting class"

4/8/2020 11:22:32 AM

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4/8/2020 8:35:43 PM

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If Josh Hall goes to the draft or G league Keatts needs to stop recruiting draft eligible players. That would be 2 years in a row the top recruit doesn’t show up.

4/18/2020 7:51:33 AM

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"draft eligible players"


They're all "draft eligible" or will be soon...one year removed from high school rule aint sheeeyeet

4/18/2020 11:54:12 AM

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Hall is likely gone to NBA or G League.

With the new GLeague salaries and such, it's going to be risky to recruit any 5* talent.

4/18/2020 9:03:54 PM

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you will never be able to build your brand in the G-League like you can in college

4/18/2020 9:25:23 PM

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theres a non-zero chance that there's no college basketball next season. if Hall can get paid anything, it makes sense to go for it IMO. like it sucks, but it is what it is

4/19/2020 12:15:26 AM

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i'm making a general statement, this upcoming year is definitely up in the air

4/19/2020 1:57:53 AM

justinh524
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We may or may not have sports in the near to not so near future. Maybe.

4/19/2020 2:20:30 AM

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even if the stands are empty, can just pump in fake crowd noise like muh Vawls do at Neyland and muh Falcons do at The Dome

4/19/2020 2:22:12 AM

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Will be interesting if college sports even want to play without fans in the stands.

I think the pro sports will continue regardless, but not sure if it makes financial sense for things like college football and college basketball.

4/20/2020 8:53:33 AM

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There's no way college sports plays without fans. If it's too risky to have fans, it's too risky for players who aren't getting paid. Also, college sports aren't coming back until college campuses are open again and who knows when that will be.

4/20/2020 11:03:19 AM

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This is may be obvious, but I've never thought to ask but do players have health insurance through the school? Like I know the school will fix sports injuries for them but if a player gets cancer (or Corona) while in school, is there an insurance policy that pays for that?

I know how to Google. Didn't exactly answer my question, but my first assumption isnt as cut and dried as I thought. Don't know why I'm surprised that college sports comes up short...
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1595326-ncaa-policies-for-student-athlete-medical-insurance-breakdown

[Edited on April 20, 2020 at 1:15 PM. Reason : E]

4/20/2020 1:11:09 PM

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All of the scholarship athletes that I personally knew had access to all of the sports medicine that they needed through the school, and at times went to specialists when that was deemed necessary. In terms of general health and upkeep (like dental or women's related needs), I never met somebody that didn't already have a plan through their parents.

4/20/2020 5:53:18 PM

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^^ The NCAA requires the school to give students health insurance (including non-sports related) but schools can decide what to pay. So if a player gets COVID, the school gets to decide whether or not to pay for it.

Or at least that's my understanding of it

4/20/2020 7:36:19 PM

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Quote :
"The NCAA requires the school to give students health insurance"


They aren't required to give them insurance, it's just required that every athlete have insurance that meets the NCAA's standards. The NCAA provides a catastrophic injury coverage for all athletes that covers both injuries that result in permanent disability as well as any injury with medical costs > $90,000. The school is required to make sure athletes have insurance that covers up to that amount.

Now obviously, larger schools will pay for insurance because it will help with recruiting. But if the school is paying your insurance and you can't play any more (because you graduated/quit/got cut/had a career ending injury) they are no longer required to pay for your insurance so kids/their parents can get stuck with big bills.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/insurance

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"but schools can decide what to pay. "


No.

4/20/2020 8:52:39 PM

rwoody
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He pointed to my post and said the opposite of the linked article

4/21/2020 12:01:02 AM

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No? Per your article,
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"The NCAA requires every student-athlete to have personal insurance. The insurance policy can be held by the student-athletes, parents, guardians or through the school. But every student-athlete must have medical insurance to be allowed to participate in intercollegiate games, practices or any team workouts."


Additionally, per your article,
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"Some players have been told that their insurance and the school's insurance didn't cover all of the medical bills."


Currently, there are loopholes that allow schools to get away with not paying for *some* injuries (ie, schools can CHOOSE to avoid paying for them). While the NCAA is trying to eliminate those loopholes, they do (or did) exist.

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"They aren't required to give them insurance, it's just required that every athlete have insurance that meets the NCAA's standards."


Awesome? We're not talking about student athletes who provide their own insurance, we're talking about schools providing the insurance, so frankly you're really just being pedantic.

Y'all wonder why this site is dying... everyone who joins is driven off by a bunch of 40 year old curmudgeons who'd rather shit on each other all day rather than have any real discussion on anything.

[Edited on April 21, 2020 at 9:24 AM. Reason : formatting]

[Edited on April 21, 2020 at 9:30 AM. Reason : decided calling you 30 year olds was being too generous]

4/21/2020 9:23:56 AM

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Your first sentence says the NCAA requires schools to give athletes health insurance, but that isn't true? How is that pedantic?

4/21/2020 9:34:21 AM

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That was in response to Justin, not you. But it's pedantic because, like I said, we're not talking about student athletes who provide their own insurance. Unless he's just saying that the school will still supplementally pay for sports-related injuries for students who otherwise have their own non-school insurance. But otherwise it's just nit-picking a tangential part of the argument and not the main body of the argument.

4/21/2020 9:47:00 AM

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Who's we? I started this discussion and I was asking whether schools had to provide insurance or not, that was the driving force behind the topic. I thought, at minimum, schools had to provide insurance for sports injuries but even that isn't really true.

NCAA does NOT require schools to provide health insurance, that is definitely a key part of the question I asked.

It's just another example of the athletes taking all of the risk of with none of the reward.

4/21/2020 10:28:17 AM

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Hi, I also get irrationally upset when others respond to me with facts on the internet.

Schools don't get to decide which injuries/illnesses to cover. Like that's not a thing. Insurance companies do that.

4/21/2020 11:20:54 AM

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I'm not upset, truly, I just don't get why y'all are so hostile to everyone all the time. Guess you're happy with the community you've got so I can't knock it, just doesn't make sense to me.

Anyways, sure, I'll concede your point, NCAA has required universities to certify that athletes have insurance for athletically-related injuries before they can compete, and the insurance can come from the school, a parent or an athlete's personal policy.

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"Like that's not a thing"


If it wasn't then why is this conversation taking place? Why was it brought up? It is (or perhaps, used to be but has been fixed?) possible for colleges to get out of paying. Don't believe me? Read this: https://www.al.com/sports/2012/02/college_athletes_rights_ncaa_r.html

Anyways, this is a basketball recruiting thread and I'll let this conversation die in peace.

4/21/2020 12:28:30 PM

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Justin is always hostile on tww.

4/21/2020 12:39:15 PM

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I brought it up bc I didn't know if schools would pay or not. I then took a pause and said "I should just Google this", at which point I edited and posted the article. Then you came posted something that said the opposite of what the article said, I simple pointed that out.

Nobodies called you names or ridiculed you (I suppose my post was a little condescending but it's pretty minor to get upset about) we've just corrected what you said. You're the only one who has tried to shit talk people and call names.

But finally, arguing about Sports IS the community. 80% of the discussions bw Justin and I have been arguments. Maybe you should think of having a sports argument as joining the community rather than being pushed out.

4/21/2020 12:41:55 PM

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I'm not being hostile, just regurgitating facts.

[Edited on April 21, 2020 at 12:55 PM. Reason : I'll get hostile if you call Ryan Finley great though]

4/21/2020 12:55:01 PM

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HE'S NOT GREAT BUT HE'S BETTER THAN DEVIN LEARY YOU PIECE OF GARBAGE!!

4/21/2020 12:57:27 PM

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