I mean, small potatoes, but can we sit back and just take stock that on the president of the United States' twitter feed is a link to a The Gateway Pundit story.

I guess congrats to conservative media for absolutely and totally winning control of the minds of the country?

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 9:10 AM. Reason : Trump's Time magazine interview is... wtf?]

3/23/2017 8:51:20 AM

I don't think they've won over the minds. They've won over Trump's mind.

3/23/2017 9:15:29 AM

McCain seems to be the only Republican congressman with any sense right now. And nobody is listening to him.

3/23/2017 9:16:50 AM

^^ they control EVERYTHING. The Democrats had a lot to do with that but I'm not sure how you can conclude anything but the GOP and RW media have won the war (for now).

3/23/2017 9:20:13 AM

Quote :

"I guess congrats to conservative media for absolutely and totally winning control of the minds of the country?"

ftfy

3/23/2017 9:55:06 AM

^^Well by definition if you say for now, they haven't won the war. if anything, they've won a battle. But it's cynical to say they control everything, just as it's cynical for Republicans to say the LW media controls everything.

3/23/2017 10:19:37 AM

Quote :

"However, what JCE#s likes to overlook is that this guy hasn't been tied to Jewish graveyard desecrations or the threats made after the above's apprehension. But that doesn't fit his narrative."

I don't "overlook" the fact that anti-semetic things happen, or that actual hate crimes happen. There will always be bad people from every background doing bad things... the point is how does the media report it? Do they report it based on statistical/historical relevance, or do they simply hand pick the anecdotes that fit their political narrative at the moment?

There were "spikes" in anti-Semitic incidents under Obama, but I guess that doesn't fit the narrative. It was revealed that the "spike" in anti-Semitic incidents under Trump was a hoax caused by a leftist... but I guess that doesn't fit the narrative.

The truth is, you hacks want narrative over reality, and when you live in a click-bait echo-chamber that is exactly what you get. Flimsy anecdotal cases to support your shitty ideology that simply can't stand up to scrutiny.

3/23/2017 11:47:00 AM

post your data

3/23/2017 11:49:07 AM

^^Answer a very simple question. Please. I don't think you've ever answered one of my questions.

Do you listen to Sean Hannity?

3/23/2017 11:51:58 AM

Just Googled this, there are a few more "anti-Semitic" incidents the past few months debunked.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/reports

You gotta love the culture of "Victimhood Olympics" that the regressive left has created. I guess this is the kind of false-flag shit you can expect when your entire ideology is based on convincing people that they are "oppressed" when they aren't.

And we already know 100% of these were front page material on the HuffingtonPost, yet oddly enough they don't update once the hoax has been exposed... (Muh Narrative)


[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 11:58 AM. Reason : ^no]

3/23/2017 11:56:26 AM

If you say so.

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 11:59 AM. Reason : d]

3/23/2017 11:59:15 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/23/hoax-texas-teen-made-up-widely-publicized-story-that-3-black-men-kidnapped-and-gang-raped-her-police-say/

Couldn't find this hoax on that website ¯\_(?)_/¯.

** anyway Trump is really between a rock and a hard place. It's a loss if Trumpcare fails on the house but if it passes it is so wildly unpopular they will likely be hammered for years to come by voters.

3/23/2017 12:38:01 PM

snopes - not okay

random website "fakehatecrimes/org" - okay

3/23/2017 12:46:56 PM

One is a list of hate crime hoaxes

The other is a failed leftist blogger's opinion

3/23/2017 1:44:36 PM

k

3/23/2017 1:45:51 PM

Cute little website that only serves to feed your narrative. If they were that concerned with being impartial/fact checking there would be side-by-side comparisons of hoaxes vs. non-hoaxes.

3/23/2017 1:48:48 PM

lol, dude is funny.

anyways, trump recently did an interview with time, here are some gems:

Quote :

""I'm a very instinctual person, but my instinct turns out to be right. Hey, look, in the meantime, I guess I can't be doing so badly, because I'm president, and you're not," he told Time's Washington bureau chief, Michael Scherer."

On claiming Obama wire-tapped him

Quote :

""I quoted the judge the other day, Judge Napolitano," Trump told Time, referring to the Fox News contributor Andrew Napolitano, who reported the information on Fox News using anonymous sources, on which Trump's White House based the claim. "I have a lot of respect for Judge Napolitano, and he said that three sources have told him things that would make me right. I don't know where he has gone with it since then. But I'm quoting highly respected people from highly respected television networks.""

ON claiming Ted Cruz's father killed JFK

Quote :

""Well, that was in a newspaper," Trump said. "No, no, I like Ted Cruz. He's a friend of mine. But that was in a newspaper. I wasn't, I didn't say that. I was referring to a newspaper. A Ted Cruz article referred to a newspaper story with -- had a picture of Ted Cruz, his father, and Lee Harvey Oswald having breakfast." "

Quote :

"Presented with a litany of other falsehoods and mischaracterizations, Trump offered this nonchalant rebuttal to his critics: "What am I going to tell you? I tend to be right. I'm an instinctual person, I happen to be a person that knows how life works.""

Quote :

""Brexit, I predicted Brexit, you remember that, the day before the event. I said, 'No, Brexit is going to happen,' and everybody laughed, and Brexit happened. Many many things. They turn out to be right," he said."

Of course, this is from CNN, so they probably just made up those quotes.

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 1:54 PM. Reason : ]

3/23/2017 1:52:48 PM

I'd love to know how someone like eleusis can read that and think, "that's my guy"

3/23/2017 2:27:36 PM

It's like a cult. It really is.

The higher educated and higher income people are just using him as a tax cut signer but the others...

3/23/2017 3:02:56 PM

to follow-up to that

https://news.vice.com/story/trump-tells-many-falsehoods-in-an-interview-about-telling-the-truth

3/23/2017 3:05:24 PM

AHCA vote delayed, so much for The Great Deal-Maker.

3/23/2017 4:35:20 PM

Yeah, I'm wondering how Trump will react. I'm sure Ryan will be somewhere on the receiving end.

3/23/2017 4:55:05 PM

This still makes me nervous. Gives them another day to bribe their colleagues with pet project money to get them to vote yes on this.

3/23/2017 5:41:32 PM

It's amazing to watch the Art of the Deal unfold in real time.

3/23/2017 7:03:32 PM

The problem with the "fake hate crime list" is that people use the few instances of made up crap to dismiss legitimate hate and terror. The fakers piss me off just as much as the actual perpetrators, but so do those who then act like the real thing isn't a big deal.

3/23/2017 7:06:11 PM

Quote :

"The problem with the "fake hate crime list" is that people use the few instances of made up crap to dismiss legitimate hate and terror. The fakers piss me off just as much as the actual perpetrators, but so do those who then act like the real thing isn't a big deal."

Those are just the hoaxes that just caught and exposed. That isn't "a few instances"... it has gotten to the point where the majority of headline stories are in fact later proven to be hoaxes.

Also nobody is acting as if the real cases "aren't a big deal"... people are just being rightfully defensive. When you have a media and hate crime fakers actively trying to portray you in that light... it's pretty despicable. The majority of Americans are very gullible and when the media and hoaxers create the narratives...

3/23/2017 9:20:29 PM

You really need to find a dictionary and look up the word "majority". Unless you have statistical data to show that more than 50% of these reports of hate crimes are hoaxes, you're completely full of shit.

3/23/2017 11:32:11 PM

He needs more than a dictionary. The problem is lack of broad contextual understanding, dictionaries don't come close to solving this.

3/24/2017 12:32:02 AM

This bill passing would be the worst thing for Trump. It's got no chance at all in making it through the Senate as written, walks back a huge campaign promise he made and if it fails he can just throw Ryan under the bus (and he will).

If it fails he can blame and move on.

From a personal perspective I can't root for it to pass even knowing that would be worst-case for Trump. The people most affected would be the same people who, in large part, put a psychopath in the WH but they don't deserve to lose health care and potentially die for that.

3/24/2017 7:48:43 AM

^^^ You need to improve your reading comprehension. I said "headline cases"... meaning the cases that are just too perfect for the media to pass up... aka the OBVIOUS hoaxes like someone burning a black church and painting "Vote Trump" on it. The same ones that you hacks have fallen for time and time again.

Quote :

"He needs more than a dictionary. The problem is lack of broad contextual understanding, dictionaries don't come close to solving this."

Moron and OEPII are the classic examples of the most gullible/indoctrinated/brain-washed caliber SJWs... Moron literally posted about the "anti-Semitism spike" long after it had already been established it was a leftist hoax.

The sad thing is you guys just don't learn... I mean just on TWW we have had about 5-6 cases of narratives built on hoaxes get exposed... yet you remain as gullible as ever. I guess it's because the HuffPost only posts about the hate, but not the hoax.

#EchoChamberSyndrome

Edit: Your gullibility and refusal to think for yourself is why the DNC pays people to start fights at Trump rallies and pose as victims. Your stupidity is why the DNC declined to what it is, and why Trump is POTUS.

[Edited on March 24, 2017 at 11:17 AM. Reason : .]

3/24/2017 11:15:23 AM

And yet, you believe this guy:

https://news.vice.com/story/trump-tells-many-falsehoods-in-an-interview-about-telling-the-truth

3/24/2017 12:09:35 PM

^^this guy is so funny when it's obvious he gets all his information from right-wing echo-chambers. and he verifies the information, as he explained, with his own brain (much like trump).

anyways, here's a story about a tweet he sent today:

https://news.vice.com/story/trump-trolls-republicans-pass-my-health-bill-or-keep-funding-planned-parenthood

[Edited on March 24, 2017 at 12:21 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2017 12:21:30 PM

You talk to me about echo-chambers and then post a VICE link? Lmao

3/24/2017 12:46:15 PM

wanna dispute any of the facts of the story (i mean, it's basically just posting actual tweets and talking about them)? nope, you never do, just yell FAKE NEWS!!! ECHO-CHAMBER!!! SNOWFLAKE!!!! or whatever buzz word is humming around the right-wing echo chambers at the time. all the while saying the way you verify your "facts" is by using your "brain". LMAO

[Edited on March 24, 2017 at 12:53 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2017 12:51:20 PM

Isn't the brain an echo chamber???

3/24/2017 12:53:28 PM

Vice was founded by noted leftist Gavin McInnes.

3/24/2017 12:53:43 PM

oh, no denying that Vice leans left (at least most conservatives would think so, although they think most any journalism leans left) . i was mainly posting it for the actual tweets.

(but what does it matter? the story is pretty much all fact, with a few "biased" observations, like calling what trump is doing "trolling", which is pretty hard to dispute.)



[Edited on March 24, 2017 at 1:18 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2017 12:56:54 PM

It may now. I don't really read it but Gavin McInnes, who was a co-founder is a card carrying alt-right asshole.

3/24/2017 1:08:44 PM

I keep missing your sarcasm... I've only read Vice a few times, and I watch some of the shows, heard some about the founder, but never got the impression their journalism is influenced by the alt-right. Usually it seems pretty unbiased, although they take obvious digs at Trump.

3/24/2017 1:11:52 PM

(Gavin McInnes has nothing to do with Vice anymore)

3/24/2017 1:13:59 PM

Hasn't since 2009 or something (?) and has been critical of it.

In any case, one post in reference to a JCE is too much so my apologies.

Train wreck incoming this afternoon. Ryan gonna get thrown so far under bus.

3/24/2017 1:19:01 PM

WSJ reported today on the hate crime discussion. Some tidbits:

FBI shows 5,850 reported hates crimes in 2015, a 7% increase from the prior year, partly due to a 67% jump in anti-Muslim incidents. Anti-Jewish incidents rose nearly 9%.

Recent data shows sharp increases in hate crimes in major cities such as New York and Los Angeles.

Law enforcement in 15 major metro areas reported more than 1,600 hate crimes in 2016 which is a 10% increase from 2015.

Figures come from FBI, Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University (San Bernardino).

3/24/2017 1:29:13 PM

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/325568-trump-tells-gop-to-take-it-or-leave-it-on-obamacare-repeal

Quote :

"Trump threatens to leave ObamaCare in place if repeal bill fails"

In other news, skydiver threatens to hit ground if parachute doesn't open.

3/24/2017 2:57:53 PM

What a disaster. Although, I think there's a cautionary tale here for Democrats who want a "Tea Party" esque far left movement to rise in the party. It's hard to govern with extremists, the equivalent of this would be the ACA being killed because a lot of Democrats refused to vote for anything that wasn't single payer. It's also a reminder that government is hard, especially anything related to healthcare, and Obama/Pelosi/Reid deserve a lot of credit for getting it done in 2010.

3/24/2017 3:50:29 PM

yeah we should keep being reasonable and losing elections

3/24/2017 3:57:23 PM

It wasn't Trump's fault this thing failed. But he made this process all about himself, and said he was going to be the ultimate deal maker, so this became his failure. And after promising to unite the country, he hasn't even united his party.

3/24/2017 4:56:52 PM

^ it's equally his fault as it is GOP. He ran on repealing and replacing ACA, he's supposed to set a target for legislators to hit. Obviously trump is dumb and doesn't know anything about policy but his policy people seemed to be asleep at the wheel here too.

Trump surrounds himself with sycophant so I have zero reason to believe they'll learn from this.

3/24/2017 5:45:21 PM

Spicer's press conference was basically "if this passes Trump is victorious, if it fails it was someone else's fault"

3/24/2017 6:21:41 PM

^We knew that's what we'd be getting for 4 years

3/24/2017 7:02:43 PM

Trump said Democratics should come up with a replacement for Obamacare

Republicans have the white house and Congress but admit that they don't know how to govern and have to ask democratic party for help

3/24/2017 7:28:36 PM