how obsessed are you?

3/22/2017 10:27:57 AM

HILLARY!HILLARY!HILLARY!HILLARY!HILLARY!HILLARY!HILLARY!HILLARY!

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 10:29 AM. Reason : truncated...]

3/22/2017 10:28:16 AM

^you forgot "!!!11111dump."

3/22/2017 10:34:21 AM

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

For posterity. I was fine with digging into things like this though, as she was a candidate for president.

3/22/2017 10:36:20 AM

That must be a tough choice for you: Which is more credible...NYT or Snopes.

LOL

3/22/2017 3:10:38 PM

Jesus Christ, now Snopes is biased?

Please provide a list of what fact checking sites are credible to both sides of the political spectrum

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 3:17 PM. Reason : asdf]

3/22/2017 3:16:58 PM

^ any facts are innately biased towards liberals. this is just reality.

It will be interesting when it comes out that Tillerson was Manafort's idea.

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 3:44 PM. Reason : ]

3/22/2017 3:44:01 PM

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/844668559926145025
Schiff tells Chuck Todd: “there is more than circumstantial evidence now…there is evidence that is not circumstantial”

3/22/2017 6:28:34 PM

Will kdogg pull a goalielox if the latest reports about more than circumstantial evidence are true?

3/22/2017 8:54:38 PM

US Officials: Info suggests Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/us-officials-info-suggests-trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians/index.html

This has to be the biggest scandal in our lifetimes

3/22/2017 9:29:46 PM

depressing

3/22/2017 9:51:32 PM

Trump hasn't been tweeting recently. That's very interesting.

3/22/2017 10:03:55 PM

He's too busy on the red phone with Moscow pleading for asylum.

3/22/2017 10:05:58 PM

Still no good explanation for why Comey broke long standing protocol to talk about not charging Hillary then broke protocol again to talk about a potential tie between Hillary and wieners emails. Giuliani mused in Fox News this was because he called in favors with friends at the FBI-- this itself needs to be investigated.

3/22/2017 10:23:25 PM

^^^^^ you weren't alive when Ted Kennedy pleaded with Russia to undermine Reagan?

Or Iran-Contra?

Or Clinton's sexual assaults, covers-up, impeachment?

Or the 9/11 Commission?

Or the DoJ threatening to indict banks if they didn't lend to risky ppl wanting to buy homes they couldn't afford?

Or WMDs in Iraq (both the Bush admin and Congress in agreement)?

Or the entire Obama Administration lying about the reasons behind Benghazi?

Short-sighted, or just biased?

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 10:24 PM. Reason : Extra ^]

3/22/2017 10:24:16 PM

^ this is bigger than clintons sex scandal if true... way bigger

Bigger than Iran contra too

You're the biased one if you can't see this. Manafort grooming trump for years to further pro Russian policies, and being successful? Trump even possibly being aware of direct communication with Russia to help his campaign? This is very bad.

[Edited on March 22, 2017 at 10:40 PM. Reason : ]

3/22/2017 10:38:19 PM

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"CNN Breaking News: Unknown people suggest that something that might be bad, or not, may have happened, or may not have happened."

3/22/2017 11:01:56 PM

I'm excited to have Russians as the bad guys in movies again.

3/22/2017 11:14:25 PM

^^ it's obvious the FBI is investigating something major and unprecedented in scale but... JCE is actually right in with the CNN report, which is really purposefully vague and didn't bring too much new information.

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 6:12 AM. Reason : But lol at KDogg calling Benghazi a scandal]

3/23/2017 6:12:13 AM

Lol at benghazi

3/23/2017 6:14:05 AM

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"Jesus Christ, now Snopes is biased?"

Yes, as soon as Snopes got into political fact checking they have had a liberal bias (Kim Lacapria was the snopes leftist I remember, hopefully she got fired).

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"^ any facts are innately biased towards liberals. this is just reality."

Facts are the enemy of the regressive left... hence why your fragile cult of Marxist narratives can only survive in echo-chamber institutions like academia/media/Hollywood.

3/23/2017 9:44:49 AM

Ugh

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 10:00 AM. Reason : Right!]

3/23/2017 9:49:44 AM

that link is not relevant to this thread

you guys keep walking right into JCE trolling

3/23/2017 10:00:14 AM

Thanks for responding to half of my post

Now can JCE or Kdogg or eleusis PLEASE give me a list of fact checking sites that are acceptable sources?

3/23/2017 10:05:55 AM

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"I'm excited to have Russians as the bad guys in movies again."

Sets us up for a good reboot of Navy Seals. Bring Sheen out of retirement in Pacific Beach to lead a group of new Seals into Crimea!

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 10:11 AM. Reason : a]

3/23/2017 10:11:14 AM

^^ just don't engage idiots

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 11:06 AM. Reason : .]

3/23/2017 11:05:53 AM

I support ignoring one of those people, and I mostly have for a while other than just now, but without the other 2 and maybe 1 or two others than we're all just on this board agreeing with each other

3/23/2017 11:15:51 AM

I guess I'm one of the "others"

3/23/2017 11:21:05 AM

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"Now can JCE or Kdogg or eleusis PLEASE give me a list of fact checking sites that are acceptable sources?"

Your own brain. Think for yourself. Any fact checking site that becomes popular enough will get bought by political hacks... hell even a pardoy site like The Onion got bought and turned into Clinton propaganda last year.

The problem is when the sources act like they are objective when they aren't. Even in the right-wing echo chambers I check at least they say "We are a conservative site/podcast/news". Whereas Snopes will hire a known leftists and have her essentially write opinion pieces as "fact checking". You have to take everything with a grain of salt

3/23/2017 11:21:55 AM

Sure and the next time one of you makes a false claim I'll just be like, "I fact checked this in my head and you're wrong" and you'll surely accept that response

3/23/2017 11:31:00 AM

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"i'd encourage everyone to just ignore JCE2011 in this thread, it should be obvious to you that he is trolling and has no interest in a good intentioned debate or discussion"

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if the things that we already know about now are true, this will be one of the worst scandals in our lifetime. If there is direct collusion with Trump it would be one of the biggest scandals in our nation's history.

3/23/2017 11:34:28 AM

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"Sure and the next time one of you makes a false claim I'll just be like, "I fact checked this in my head and you're wrong" and you'll surely accept that response"

You would have to be capable of making an effective argument for that to work.

And no, spam, straw man arguments, and insults do not work... sorry

3/23/2017 12:00:33 PM

When there is a disagreement over whether something is true or not no amount of reason can be used to change that thought. You need some sort of proof...but you're basically saying there is no website out there that we can use as proof to counter anything you claim, which is basically like saying that you'll continue to believe what you want to believe regardless of any opposite proof shown to you, because you'll wave it off as biased...which is indeed how you've behaved as long as I've seen you post on this board

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 12:13 PM. Reason : asdf]

3/23/2017 12:12:28 PM

Snopes is not biased. JFC. Stop arguing with it.

3/23/2017 12:13:35 PM

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"it should be obvious to you that he is trolling and has no interest in a good intentioned debate or discussion"

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 12:14 PM. Reason : you fucking morons]

3/23/2017 12:13:55 PM

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"which is basically like saying that you'll continue to believe what you want to believe regardless of any opposite proof shown to you, because you'll wave it off as biased"

This is trumpism in a nutshell.

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 12:20 PM. Reason : It's not gonna change anytime soon.]

3/23/2017 12:15:21 PM

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"Snopes is not biased"

Snopes is absolutely leftist. Just because you take a few failed leftist bloggers and call them "fact checkers" doesn't mean they are reputable (except within your echo-chamber of confirmation bias).

The only reason Snopes "had" credibility was because they used to stay out of politics initially. Honestly though you may as well call the HuffingtonPost a fact-checking website

3/23/2017 12:23:51 PM

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"i'd encourage everyone to just ignore JCE2011 in this thread, it should be obvious to you that he is trolling and has no interest in a good intentioned debate or discussion"

3/23/2017 12:24:21 PM

dtownral only views your argument valid if you post buzzfeed links.

3/23/2017 12:27:26 PM

Yesterday Adam Schiff stated that there is "more than circumstantial evidence" that trump associates colluded with Russia.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/adam-schiff-says-theres-more-than-circumstantial-evidence-now-of-collusion-in-trump-russia-probe/

Adam Schiff is the ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence; a member of the "Gang of Eight" who receive high-level intelligence, including intelligence from the white house.

Adam Schiff is a former US prosecutor in LA. Among the cases he prosecuted includes a case of an FBI agent passing secret documents to the soviet union.

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 12:37 PM. Reason : context]

3/23/2017 12:37:34 PM

It is very clear at this point that a special prosecutor is needed to continue this investigation

3/23/2017 12:39:29 PM

I suspect Nunes had that presser yesterday precisely for that reason. To try and undermine some stories coming (beginning with the admittedly vague CNN thing yesterday).

3/23/2017 12:39:50 PM

I don't think Schiff would have made a statement if Nunes hadn't gotten played

3/23/2017 12:53:38 PM

^absolutely agree with this

3/23/2017 12:55:48 PM

Jesus Christ this really is working out like a season of House of Cards.

3/23/2017 1:14:23 PM

GOP strategist John Weaver's thoughts:

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"John Weaver? @JWGOP Move over Teapot Dome. Step aside Watergate. Neither of you involved treason."

3/23/2017 1:18:41 PM

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"Can the White House guarantee no Trump associates colluded with Russia? "No I cannot unequivocally say that," he said, while slamming CNN's reporting on the topic: "You don't have anything concrete.""

This seems like a pretty big chance of stance from the White House, no? He then went on to try and word salad a definition of associate.

[Edited on March 23, 2017 at 3:39 PM. Reason : Sorry that was Spicer answering]

3/23/2017 3:38:38 PM

when did he say that, i don't see it

3/23/2017 4:04:56 PM

Was in his briefing. It was as much a non-denial denial as you can get. He is always talking over people so it's hard to parse annoyed sarcasm from a real answer.

3/23/2017 4:11:56 PM

Nunes about to have a presser now and I have a meeting

3/24/2017 10:29:03 AM