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"If the shoe fits..."

so laser is a racist troll, i take it?

6/21/2012 1:31:35 PM

the fact of the matter is that the evidence and witness accounts are scarce and unreliable. we only have one witness to the events, who happened to be the one charged with murder. we will probably never know what really happened so all of this assumption and speculation is retarded. let a jury of 12 decide and the burden be upon them.

6/21/2012 1:33:57 PM

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"so laser is a racist troll, i take it?"

Obviously you don't know sarcasm when you read it. Jerkball was all, oh yeah the black guy is always the villain so I replied to his dumbfuck comment with sarcasm. Get it?

I could explain it to you but you wouldn't understand anyway.

6/21/2012 1:36:01 PM

it's often hard to get sarcasm on the internet, especially if it's contained in a few words with no surrounding context. How was I to know you were joking? so you do think zimmerman is guilty?

6/21/2012 3:43:19 PM

i think Zimmerman committed murder legally

6/21/2012 4:23:39 PM

fwiw, "murder", by defintion is "unlawful killing, especially with malice aforethought"

6/21/2012 4:25:34 PM

I would argue that Hitler murdered thousands of Jews, but he did it legally amirite?

6/21/2012 4:51:16 PM

maybe under german law, but not world law?

6/21/2012 4:52:34 PM

i guess it could be up for debate.

6/21/2012 4:53:33 PM

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"serious question - why are all of you stating/assuming that each of these actions were occurring at the same exact time? Is it not possible that, TM was slamming GZ's head into the ground while covering his mouth, then next, TM used one of those hands to reach for a gun, etc.? I'm not saying if I believe these stories one way or the other, but it seems like you all are suggesting that everything happened at the same exact time, instead of a series of events. Did GZ say all of this happened at the same exact time or something?"

Watch the police video interview with Zimmerman, the walkthrough that Zimmerman gives at the apt. complex, and then read the written statements. Between the accounts, it appears as if there are either discrepancies in how the fight went down...or, Trayvon has like 3 hands capable of covering all of the punching, head-bashing, nose and mouth covering, and handgun reaching that's apparently going on.

6/21/2012 5:13:41 PM

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"i think Zimmerman committed murder legally"

6/21/2012 5:43:34 PM

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"it's often hard to get sarcasm on the internet, especially if it's contained in a few words with no surrounding context. How was I to know you were joking? so you do think zimmerman is guilty?"

Fair enough.

6/21/2012 7:39:27 PM

the most laughable part of zimmerman's statements is that he claims Trayvon actually said "you got me" after he was shot.

6/21/2012 7:47:13 PM

isn't that from a movie or something?

6/21/2012 7:51:40 PM

yea, it's like all he watches is terrible 1950s movies and thinks real people would say that when they get shot

[Edited on June 21, 2012 at 7:52 PM. Reason : ]

6/21/2012 7:52:36 PM

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"Watch the police video interview with Zimmerman, the walkthrough that Zimmerman gives at the apt. complex, and then read the written statements. Between the accounts, it appears as if there are either discrepancies in how the fight went down...or, Trayvon has like 3 hands capable of covering all of the punching, head-bashing, nose and mouth covering, and handgun reaching that's apparently going on."

witness accounts are notoriously inconsistent even from the same person. this is not uncommon.

6/22/2012 10:34:51 AM

Well at least he and his wife have proven to be honest, straight-forward people so this shouldn't matter that much.

6/22/2012 11:27:22 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qfkRTC5gF4




[Edited on June 22, 2012 at 11:31 AM. Reason : g]

6/22/2012 11:30:43 AM

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" witness accounts are notoriously inconsistent even from the same person. this is not uncommon."

1. Yeah, weeks or months later during court proceedings or other interviews. Not so much the day immediately after.

2. That pendulum swings both ways there, buddy. You can't take his account on what happened only when it suits you.

[Edited on June 22, 2012 at 2:17 PM. Reason : J]

6/22/2012 2:03:10 PM

Serino, the detective in this case that originally wanted to arrest Zimmerman, requested to be moved off his detail and onto patrol duty

6/26/2012 6:14:52 PM

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"In his report, Serino, who interviewed Zimmerman in the days following the shooting, wrote that in following Martin, Zimmerman's actions were "inconsistent with those of a person who has stated he was in fear of another subject." He wrote that Zimmerman had at least two opportunities to speak to the teen and "defuse the situation." He also noted that Zimmerman "failed to identify himself" as a concerned citizen or neighborhood watch member on two occasions that night. Serino also reported that he thought Zimmerman's head injuries were "marginally consistent with a life-threatening episode...""

6/26/2012 9:22:49 PM

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/26/v-fullstory/2869077/sanford-detective-trayvon-martin.html

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"Serino said the relative size of the two fighters, coupled with the fact that neither had specialized training in hand-to-hand combat, meant Zimmerman was not at any “exceptional disadvantage” when the two scuffled on the ground"

I'm now very much convinced that George Zimmerman is the cat that:

1. Wore a pair of basketball shorts under his pants in high school so that, when "dressing out" in the locker room for gym class, he never had to be too exposed.

2. Picks a fight with a teenager, gets his ass whooped, shoots the teenager in the chest, then continues fighting/straddles the fatally wounded teenager in a victorious celebration of might.

3. Leaves his T-shirt when he goes swimming.

6/26/2012 9:37:39 PM

Why are y'all such judgers? Just curious.

6/26/2012 9:49:21 PM

They see him, for some reason, as the quintessential white man who is always getting over on the black man... Skewed as that point of view is.

6/26/2012 10:09:42 PM

you did a bad job of reading my mind

try again

6/26/2012 11:00:39 PM

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"you did a bad job of reading my mind try again"

You're agreeing with EMCE in an attempt to win over his heart due to your secret desire to stretch your lips around that tree trunk of a cock.

6/26/2012 11:06:51 PM

nah, wrong again

I'm a white supremacist happy that the negro is dead but mad that the spic might possibly go free

6/26/2012 11:12:55 PM

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" Earlier in the hearing, a member of a Sanford, Fla., ambulance crew told a court that Zimmerman's head, including his moustache and beard, were covered in blood after the shooting of Martin. EMT Kevin O'Rourke testified during Zimmerman's bond hearing this morning that "45 percent" of Zimmerman's head had blood on it and that the lacerations on Zimmerman's head "would probably need stitches." O'Rourke also testified that Zimmerman's nose was broken and urged him to see a doctor within 24 hours."

6/29/2012 12:24:23 PM

who cares about this story

theres a guy that wasnt allowed to enter a shitty bar in raleigh, now THATS fucked up

6/29/2012 12:26:12 PM

^^ even minor scalp wounds can bleed excessively

what's your point

[Edited on June 29, 2012 at 4:34 PM. Reason : r]

6/29/2012 4:34:19 PM

So....that means that Zimmerman was more than likely in a fight.
This CAN'T be a shocking revelation to you.


Evidence of a fight could just as well mean that Trayvon was defending himself, no?

6/29/2012 4:44:58 PM

but in Florida you aren't allowed to stand your ground with your fists alone

to stand your ground you need a pussy hand cannon

6/29/2012 5:28:07 PM

^trololol

shut the fuck up

6/29/2012 5:35:38 PM

Judge set new bond at $1M

7/5/2012 11:49:26 AM

Z left jail

7/6/2012 4:29:27 PM

New conditions of bail: has to stay in seminole county, can't set foot on airport grounds, must be electronically monitored, can't have a passport, and must adhere to a curfew of 6pm to 6am

[Edited on July 6, 2012 at 5:36 PM. Reason : d]

7/6/2012 5:28:34 PM

^ racist

7/6/2012 8:33:51 PM

What is this I hear of allegations that Zimmerman molested a family member when they were growing up?

What is this I hear of suspicion that Zimmerman had an "ally" that is a former cop that coached him on what to say to officers during this ordeal? Does this explain why Zimmerman's story seems so rehearsed?

7/16/2012 3:05:25 PM

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"What is this I hear of suspicion that Zimmerman had an "ally" that is a former cop that coached him on what to say to officers during this ordeal? Does this explain why Zimmerman's story seems so rehearsed?"

What a shitty friend. A real friend would coach you to say, "Speak to my lawyer".

7/16/2012 3:10:24 PM

I have a friend on Facebook that compares everyone's bail to that of George Zimmerman's

it's rather annoying

7/16/2012 3:26:35 PM

In 50 years...

Interesting... this tank of gas costs the same as George Zimmerman's bail.

7/16/2012 3:28:29 PM

SZimmerman's lawyer also wants a new judge. He filed a motion requesting Judge Lester to step down, saying:

-the judge made disparaging remarks about Zimmerman in the bail hearing
-the judge advocated Zimmerman be prosecuted for additional crimes
-the judge offered personal opinions about evidence
-the judge has threatened Zimmerman w/ contempt

7/16/2012 3:41:38 PM

isnt that the job of a judge?

[Edited on July 16, 2012 at 3:44 PM. Reason : dependent upon the degree of these accusations]

7/16/2012 3:43:35 PM

I'm not sure how the nuances of this works.... Perhaps one of our lawyers on TWW can school me


But I suppose O'mara's argument would be the judge isn't being impartial, and is preventing Zimmerman from getting a fair trial by asserting undue influence over the court.


And the judge's argument is going to be 'IF YOU DON'T WANT THE JUDGE TO BE MAD AT YOU, DON'T MISLEAD HIS COURT'

[Edited on July 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM. Reason : K]

7/16/2012 3:47:39 PM

someone accused zimmerman of being a molester and racist

7/16/2012 3:58:08 PM

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"isnt that the job of a judge?"

No, the judge isn't really supposed to have an opinion on the guilt or innocence of the accused, nor is he supposed to comment on the evidence in any way, unless it's to discuss meeting a legal standard or an evidentiary rule.

[Edited on July 16, 2012 at 4:08 PM. Reason : ]

7/16/2012 4:08:08 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/16/us-usa-florida-shooting-idUSBRE86F0YV20120716

And people wondered why he tried to keep quiet about the money. Bullshit like this is why.

7/16/2012 9:01:31 PM

I don't think anyone wondered why he tried to hide the money

he had several motives that were pretty thoroughly understood and discussed

don't be dumb

7/16/2012 9:03:43 PM

You do realize 'witness 9' came forward with her accusations of alleged molestation around March 20th, right? It's just that this is now being released.

Perhaps someone can provide an exact date (I think it was April 8th or 9th)... but I was under the impression that was before Zimmerman even set up a pay pal account to collect donations.... let alone actually having knowledge of donations.



Nevermind. It's pretty amusing to watch you bend and warp logic in order to make Zimmerman the good guy. Not saying the accusations are true. Please continue



[Edited on July 16, 2012 at 9:23 PM. Reason : el oh el]

7/16/2012 9:14:53 PM

I'd think the stuff about his family being racist is mostly BS.

The molestation thing is interesting, but it doesn't really affect the Trayvon shooting, that should be another case.

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"The woman, whose parents were close to the Zimmerman family, talked to investigators on March 20"

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/17/us/george-zimmerman-accused-of-molesting.html

TULIPlovr pwnt, stay home.

Good he finally made it clear he supports child molesters though, and likes innocent blacks getting shot.


[Edited on July 16, 2012 at 10:00 PM. Reason : ]

7/16/2012 9:56:40 PM