I think you guys overestimate the capability of humans being perfect. This type of shit happens all the time which is why there are so many levels of safeguards in place when it comes to launching a retaliatory strike.

I also find it funny when people spend a lot of time talking about how imperfect Americans are and then when something like this happens suddenly it isn't the imperfections that caused it. Instead it's some grand conspiracy.

Must really suck living at that level of paranoia.

[Edited on January 14, 2018 at 10:06 AM. Reason : A]

1/14/2018 10:05:49 AM

To you and I it would suck to live with that level of paranoia. It’s comforting to these folks. It’s a coping mechanism when they believe that they can’t control their life.

1/14/2018 11:08:43 AM

“Why do I still live in my parents basement?? Government conspiracy of course.”

1/14/2018 3:37:36 PM

Quote :

"The false ballistic missile warning in Hawaii was "unacceptable" and points to a need for President Donald Trump to negotiate with North Korea directly, Hawaii Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard said Sunday."

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/14/politics/tulsi-gabbard-hawaii-cnntv/index.html


[Edited on January 15, 2018 at 4:31 PM. Reason : tulsi'd]

1/15/2018 4:30:28 PM

Quote :

"nearly 200,000 youth enter the adult criminal-justice system each year, most for non-violent crimes. On any given day, 10,000 juveniles are housed in adult prisons and jails."

I don't want to hear anything else about children being sent to work camps from an American. It might carry weight coming from Germany Norway or any country that preserves the human rights of its own citizens but not America.
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/01/the-cost-of-keeping-juveniles-in-adult-prisons/423201/

1/18/2018 7:51:04 PM

Lol yes I personally sent those kids to jail and can’t point out the atrocities of others bc of it!

What is a boy to do.

1/18/2018 7:54:36 PM

you allow it to happen and support a system that would send an innocent 16 year old to a prison without trial that is already torturous to audlts. You standby and let it happen making you no better than anyone else yet you want to deprive and/or murder the people of another country simply because their leadership does something similar. hypocrite.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/09/nyregion/kalief-browder-held-at-rikers-island-for-3-years-without-trial-commits-suicide.html
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/marian-wright-edelman/end-all-youth-detention-and-torture-at-rikers-island-now_b_7574180.html

[Edited on January 18, 2018 at 8:04 PM. Reason : even north korea has trials and sentencing]

1/18/2018 8:03:49 PM

Ok bruh!

1/18/2018 8:06:48 PM

^^What is your nationality?

1/18/2018 8:09:06 PM

Apparently he actively fights against all forms of injustice at all times.

1/18/2018 8:12:09 PM

He voted for Jill Stein so he is absolved from all the blame he passes on to every other American (except Trump voters of course).

1/18/2018 8:15:17 PM

Oh, so he's from Hypocristan?

1/18/2018 8:21:01 PM

I like how you ask my nationality just so you could talk shit about my country but you're in luck because I'm American.

1/18/2018 9:46:28 PM

Actually, no. I asked your nationality because I thought you were an American...and a hypocrite blaming all Americans for America's faults while somehow absolving yourself of any of your own responsibility.

And whaddayaknow...I was right!

[Edited on January 18, 2018 at 9:51 PM. Reason : ]

1/18/2018 9:50:30 PM

Quote :

"while somehow absolving yourself of any of your own responsibility. "

where did i do that?

1/18/2018 10:03:11 PM

Quote :

"you allow it to happen and support a system that would send an innocent 16 year old to a prison without trial that is already torturous to audlts. You standby and let it happen making you no better than anyone else yet you want to deprive and/or murder the people of another country simply because their leadership does something similar. hypocrite. "

1/18/2018 10:27:37 PM

Quote :

"yet you want to deprive and/or murder the people of another country simply because their leadership does something similar."

thats the part that doesn't apply to me.

1/18/2018 10:29:11 PM

And you can take that either way/both ways: Me quoting you to provide an example, or me using your own words to address your own hypocrisy...Just as you addressed Dentaldamn.

[Edited on January 18, 2018 at 10:31 PM. Reason : ]

1/18/2018 10:29:32 PM

^^I fail to see where you are justified in assuming it applies to others here.

1/18/2018 10:30:44 PM

im gonna guess he lives in the Bay Area

1/18/2018 10:31:43 PM

I don't see anyone else on this board speaking out against the sanctions that have punished the poor for the regime's actions. Everyone is either sitting idly or actively defending US policy.

I also don't see anyone suggesting we sanction the US economy which would be the alternative, non-hypocritical position.

Although I participate in enabling the great injustices, I don't believe that people should be punished for simply being a part of the society they grew up in. I don't feel like going through this thread, but that has essentially been said about the North Korean people.

1/18/2018 10:44:01 PM

Quote :

"Everyone is either sitting idly or actively defending US policy."

Yeah, speaking out on TWW is sure to bring change!

1/18/2018 10:52:32 PM

Also, you didn't even limit the scope of your attack to just TWW:

Quote :

"I don't want to hear anything else about children being sent to work camps from an American."

1/18/2018 10:58:55 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/22/asia/north-korea-secret-agent-blew-up-plane-intl/index.html

1/22/2018 11:06:16 PM

Cool, so instead of continuing to report on Saudi Arabia attacking us(doesn't fit the agenda), CNN prefers to glorify a terrorist for olympic fear mongering stemming from alleged DPRK involvement in an attack that happened 30 years ago.

Quote :

"Yeah, speaking out on TWW is sure to bring change! Also, you didn't even limit the scope of your attack to just TWW: Quote : "I don't want to hear anything else about children being sent to work camps from an American.""

I'm not saying I'm above anyone else. Thats the point. I'm not telling other countries what to do until I fix mine.

[Edited on January 23, 2018 at 12:01 AM. Reason : and if i can't fix mine then its safe to assume they cant fix theirs. ]

1/22/2018 11:59:18 PM

Every person who’s enacted change, that I can think of, has had numerous flaws.

Ignoring obvious injustice bc we are deeply flawed is dumb and what you’re saying is regressive.

1/23/2018 11:06:14 AM

you are ignoring obvious injustice here but creating more injustice on the other side of the world becuase of injustice. i dont see how you tgink starving or killing hundreds of thousands of people is helping. look at iraq. you created far more injustice than anyone could have imagined under hussein

1/23/2018 11:35:15 AM

lol

1/23/2018 12:40:59 PM

lol Glad that guy read what I wrote and responded to it rather than going off on an insane tangent.

1/23/2018 1:49:37 PM

i responded to half of your post. the first half could easily be applied to kim il song. he enacted a lot of change in the name of social justice but North koreas regime has "flaws".

You call american inacted injustice "flaws" to try and minimize it. I guess its a coping mechanism to help you sleep at night. Either that or the consumption of controled education and media has prevented you from hearing about the injustice that takes place in/by your own country.

There is a huge difference between calling out injustice and actively seeking to destroy an entire nation as a punitive response to said flaws.

I would go to a protest march, or vote a certain way, but i would never stoop as low as hurting people because injustice is taking place.

[Edited on January 23, 2018 at 5:25 PM. Reason : keep making excuses for americas "flaws" while killing koreans for their's]

[Edited on January 23, 2018 at 5:26 PM. Reason : k]

1/23/2018 5:24:05 PM

yeah, keep killing koreans, dentaldamn

1/23/2018 6:02:30 PM

I work with a Korean guy. I didn’t invite him to drinks with the rest of the team.

1/23/2018 6:11:13 PM

https://theoutline.com/post/2944/what-science-is-like-in-north-korea?zd=1

1/24/2018 7:41:24 PM

Wrong thread

[Edited on February 13, 2018 at 11:00 AM. Reason : X]

2/13/2018 11:00:22 AM

rw media is having fits over dprk "winning the olympics" right now. how dare anyone promote peace?



[Edited on February 13, 2018 at 7:22 PM. Reason : thanks ron paul]

2/13/2018 6:55:31 PM

amazinh production lol. i hope this type of video will help more people find out
https://www.facebook.com/msgabbani/posts/10155188288526781

3/5/2018 6:15:24 PM

I wonder what they will ask for in return for denuclearization. I think it would be reasonable to ask the US to withdraw troops from the korean peninsula and all nukes from the region along with the end of all sanctions and war games in return for denuclearization. That would be my starting point.

I think North Korea knows the talks will fall apart but could put the US in position look unreasonable and gain support from China and other players for "trying" to denuclearize.

3/6/2018 11:02:18 PM

Quote :

"I think it would be reasonable to ask the US to withdraw troops from the korean peninsula and all nukes from the region along with the end of all sanctions and war games in return for denuclearization. Removal of US troops in exchange for change in NK government."

Partial sanctions reduction for nukes. Complete sanctions reduction for human rights improvement. The rest of that is a non starter.

[Edited on March 7, 2018 at 8:16 AM. Reason : a]

3/7/2018 8:15:48 AM

^What you posted is not anything different than previous policy. So for from CNN pundits, it ounds like its going to be a freeze on the nuclear program in exchange for normalization of relations.

3/8/2018 7:27:36 PM

A freeze is not anywhere close to denuclearization and I suspect is as far as DPRK will go. I’ve often wondered why we didn’t hear out nation-states in the past (yes I know the giving legitimacy argument) so I’m actually going to give Trump credit here for trying. Just don’t see him getting anything but rolled by Kim Jong Un.

[Edited on March 8, 2018 at 8:04 PM. Reason : Iran too]

3/8/2018 8:04:05 PM

a freeze has to happen before denuclearization. The language I heard quoted was "path to denuclearization of the entire peninsula" which would require the US to pullout as well. I was in the other room but i heard something about a freeze on S Korean/US war games in exchange. It would also be wise for DPRK to include denuclearization of Japan and Guam in that deal as well but I haven't heard anything else.

[Edited on March 8, 2018 at 8:11 PM. Reason : there aren't going to be any one-sided deals]

3/8/2018 8:09:55 PM

I don’t know but the SK guy said explicitly the war games/exercises would NOT stop.

3/8/2018 8:16:42 PM

ok maybe that was what i misheard from the other room

3/8/2018 8:17:52 PM

if obama does it he is a terrorist-lover

if trump does it he deserves the nobel prize

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1964232273608253

are all trump supporters such overtly ugly hypocrites as in the video?

who are the trump-lovers here?

3/16/2018 5:12:15 PM

same thing in reverse on other networks thats how you know its all bullshit. especially the lie that other countries are crazy just because they don't get along with us

[Edited on March 16, 2018 at 5:19 PM. Reason : k]

3/16/2018 5:19:15 PM

you are right, the whole system is rotten to the core

3/16/2018 6:48:36 PM

3/17/2018 9:09:20 AM

Pay close attention to the words "denuclearization of the korean peninsula" does not mean "denuclearization of just north korea". I wonder if Trump realizes this.

4/8/2018 9:24:01 PM

Things are looking good. North Korea has done their part now lets see what happens with the meetings.

^

Quote :

"When North Korean leader Kim Jong Un promised talks on denuclearization in Beijing in March, according to Xinhua, he didn't speak of Pyongyang ending its program. He spoke of "denuclearization on the (Korean) Peninsula." "To Kim, denuclearization applies to the whole peninsula, which includes the South," David Maxwell, retired US Army Special Forces colonel and a fellow at the Institute of Korean American Studies, told CNN in March, prior to Moon's statement on Thursday."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/20/asia/kim-trump-moon-denuclearization-intl/index.html

[Edited on April 20, 2018 at 7:51 PM. Reason : US is going to be shocked to find out that their nuclear weapons count as nuclear weapons. ]

4/20/2018 7:27:19 PM

powerful image of kim with moon in a colonizer suit surrounded by everyone in traditional korean garb

4/26/2018 8:34:47 PM