Quote :

"So your issue with this is that one party is blaming the opposition party for the government shutdown? Can you see past your nose?"

which party controls the white house, the senate, and the house?

what they’re attempting to do with CHIP funding is fucking gross

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 3:10 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2018 3:09:27 PM

And further, why should ANY Dem think they won’t show the same bad faith in March when DACA expires?

1/19/2018 3:15:15 PM

Quote :

" which party controls the white house, the senate, and the house?"

It's called a filibuster. They would need 60 votes.

Quote :

"what they’re attempting to do with CHIP funding is fucking gross"

CHIP funding is included in the bill.

Quote :

"And further, why should ANY Dem think they won’t show the same bad faith in March when DACA "

The first offer from the GOP included a DREAM amnesty. Schumer rejected it. Who is showing the bad faith?

1/19/2018 3:36:03 PM

regarding CHIP nonsense:
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/senate-101-chris-hayes-bernie-sanders-blow-up-gop-chip-lie-1140326979857
if Mitch McConnell had brought up the CHIP program 3 months ago, he would have gotten 90 votes on the floor of the Senate, maybe 100

1/19/2018 3:37:56 PM

Quote :

" It's called a filibuster. They would need 60 votes. "

do they even have 51 votes?

1/19/2018 3:39:54 PM

Lindsey Graham and Dick Durbin negotiated a bipartisan immigration deal that would have passed both houses with wide margins. They presented this deal to Trump in a meeting and were met with the "shithole" comment. That's why we're where we're at right now. Blaming this on anyone but Trump and the GOP is completely disingenuous.

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 3:43 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2018 3:40:33 PM

Quote :

"CHIP funding is included in the bill. "

1/19/2018 3:44:51 PM

^^^We wont ever know. Schumer objected to the unanimous consent vote last night. If there is an indication that the GOP doesn't have 51 votes (which may very well be the case), why wouldn't Schumer agree to the vote last night and when the bill doesn't get 51 votes, it would all be on the republicans?

Now it just looks like Dems arent voting for it because of an unrelated policy demand, which sounds oh so familiar.

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 3:47 PM. Reason : 1]

1/19/2018 3:46:51 PM

Quote :

"It's called a filibuster. They would need 60 votes."

Man how does that pill taste. The GOP has literally spent the last 4+ years stopping everything from being done, and now they can’t believe that Dems might do the same. It’s called compromise dicks.

1/19/2018 3:48:51 PM

Quote :

"Lindsey Graham and Dick Durbin negotiated a bipartisan immigration deal that would have passed both houses with wide margins. They presented this deal to Trump in a meeting and were met with the "shithole" comment. That's why we're where we're at right now. Blaming this on anyone but Trump and the GOP is completely disingenuous."

Wouldnt that just be on Trump? Please dont blame him, it only gets him more power, somehow.

1/19/2018 3:49:17 PM

^^

1/19/2018 3:50:33 PM

Quote :

"Sen. Lindsey Graham is blaming President Donald Trump’s staff for the president’s about-face on immigration that appeared to scuttle a compromise deal to protect from deportation young people brought to the U.S. as children and living here illegally. In a hearing Tuesday, Graham said Trump had reversed course, expressing openness on an immigration deal early last Thursday, only to reject it hours later. Graham says, “I think somebody on his staff gave him really bad advice between 10 o’clock to 12 o’clock on Thursday.” The South Carolina Republican says White House chief of staff John Kelly is “a fine man, but he’s part of the staff.”"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-latest-trump-says-he-wants-immigrants-from-everywhere/2018/01/16/57907226-fae6-11e7-9b5d-bbf0da31214d_story.html?utm_term=.4f1ac644f8d3

1/19/2018 3:50:43 PM

Quote :

"Man how does that pill taste. The GOP has literally spent the last 4+ years stopping everything from being done, and now they can’t believe that Dems might do the same. It’s called compromise dicks."

I wonder what Chuck Shumer would think of that?

Quote :

"We believe strongly in immigration reform. We could say, 'we're shutting down the government, we're not gonna raise the debt ceiling, until you pass immigration reform.' It would be governmental chaos."

Oh look, the guy shutting down the government due to immigration reform said he would never shut down the government for immigration reform.

Hows that pill taste?

1/19/2018 3:59:26 PM

one of those things is a debt ceiling (money already spent) and the other is a budget and some serious immigration stuff that already had a bipartisan agreement in place

what's the spin machine say to make those things remotely comparable?

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 4:46 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2018 4:42:15 PM

^^since shumer didn’t say what you think he did I imagine he’ll be just fine

1/19/2018 5:15:22 PM

My new years revolution was to leave the government shutdown forever.

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 8:04 PM. Reason : end USA]

1/19/2018 8:03:39 PM

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 8:58 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2018 8:58:12 PM

Has a 1 party government ever had a shutdown before, or is this new?

1/19/2018 10:59:45 PM

You're the expert on everything, you tell us

1/19/2018 11:39:38 PM

Here comes the latest insanity from the Government Of Putin: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/gop-memo-on-surveillance-abuse-seeks-to-discredit-the-trump-russia-dossier/2018/01/19/7b4babbc-fd3f-11e7-a46b-a3614530bd87_story.html?utm_term=.5b5d0af8387a

Quote :

"One of the document’s talking points suggests that the government’s application for a wiretap order on Page includes a reference to Steele assuring the FBI he did not speak to reporters about the allegations of collusion between Trump associates and Russia — although Steele later acknowledged in a separate lawsuit that he had talked to reporters before the 2016 election, said the individuals familiar with the document. Current and former law enforcement officials have said the surveillance application relied on far more information than just Steele’s research."

Quote :

"The hashtag #ReleaseTheMemo trended shortly after Meadows and other House conservatives tweeted it. According to the website Hamilton 68, which tracks Russian-linked Twitter accounts, #ReleaseTheMemo was the top hashtag being promoted Thursday and Friday by such accounts. And WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy group, offered $1 million in bitcoin to anyone who would share the memo, and directed people to a web address. That URL was the most shared among the Russian-linked accounts, according to Hamilton 68. “Not surprisingly, the GOP campaign to attack the FBI has been joined by the same forces that made common cause during the Trump campaign — WikiLeaks, Julian Assange and a multitude of online Russian bots are now involved in promoting this effort,” the intelligence committee’s Democratic members said in a statement Friday."

1/19/2018 11:52:04 PM

^^^ it's a first

yay?

1/20/2018 12:03:19 AM

GOP “Leadership”

1/20/2018 12:13:30 AM

Quote :

"US government shuts down; Dems, GOP blame each other"

1/20/2018 1:06:48 AM

Quote :

"Not surprisingly, the GOP campaign to attack the FBI has been joined by the same forces that made common cause during the Trump campaign — WikiLeaks, Julian Assange and a multitude of online Russian bots are now involved in promoting this effort,” "

I just don't understand how the media, the average Joe, etc arent hair on fire about this. It's insanely creepy how coordinated it feels sometimes. How is this not career-ending for "patriotic, law-and-order, cop/military cheerleader" republicans?

1/20/2018 7:56:10 AM

So, if the reports on what Schumer was willing to concede to Trump two things. 1) Schumer gave WAY WAY too much; and 2) Trump had no plans to make a deal, the Wall doesn’t matter to him and he WANTED a shutdown. I hope, but don’t believe, that America is smart enough to see through this.

The GOP is a fantastic opposition party but has no interest in governing (which I suppose is ideologically consistent).

1/20/2018 8:25:23 AM

They already managed this to make the base + some believe Schumer did this over allowing illegals to come into our country and I think this whole thing just hurts the Dems. Dems don’t seem to understand the psychology of the masses right now. They always seem to look reactive... Schumer Shutdown was brilliant in its simplicity then the Dems are like “no #trump shutdown!” But it’s already too late. Illiteration so basic but effective.

The Dems need to hire a ton of the best 18-22 year old Reddit trolls and meme makers. The Reps are such easy targets right now failing all over with more control of the government than any party in forever yet they can’t put out any effective messaging, ideas, or people that simply connect with anyone. At this rate they will lose midterm seats. They just don’t manipulate the media and people in general effectively. Educated 20-30 year olds see through it but they don’t vote and the rest eat it up.

1/21/2018 9:28:36 AM

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/955592896396357633

Lol, what the fuck is going on? Is Alex Jones running our country now?

1/22/2018 7:34:46 PM

Biden has had enough:

Biden: McConnell Refused To Sign Bipartisan Statement On Russian Interference
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/01/24/580171396/biden-mcconnell-refused-to-sign-bipartisan-statement-on-russian-interference?

(We already knew McConnell did this, but now we have more confirmation)

1/24/2018 9:51:57 AM

https://www.wsj.com/articles/dozens-of-people-recount-pattern-of-sexual-misconduct-by-las-vegas-mogul-steve-wynn-1516985953?tesla=y&mod=e2tw

Yikes. This is the head of RNC finances. Chances we see the GOP say every cent he’s donated should be returned?

1/26/2018 12:12:49 PM

it's okay, he deserves a mulligan

1/26/2018 12:56:24 PM

lol @ Nikki Haley

1/28/2018 10:59:42 PM

I’m sure she drove down to DC to tell Ted Nugent to stay out of politics while flipping off the Clinton portrait.

Anyway, in important news, the GOP should vote today I think to release Nunes’ memo. The Post and Times are strongly hinting it’s a hit job meant to take aim at the one guy who can fire Mueller, Trump appointed DAG Rod Rosenstein.

[Edited on January 29, 2018 at 7:03 AM. Reason : X]

1/29/2018 7:03:02 AM

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-trump-wants-russia-memo-released-2018-1

http://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-draft-memo-defending-fbi-and-doj-from-republican-attacks-2018-1

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-why-cant-i-have-my-guys-at-trump-justice-department-do-my-bidding-2018-1

1/29/2018 12:50:52 PM

CBS is saying Andy McCabe was forced to step down today. Same day as memo will be voted on.

Interesting. I’m really concerned the direction this is headed with the rhetoric on the Sunday circuit yesterday as well.

1/29/2018 12:52:41 PM

Monday afternoon massacre?

1/29/2018 1:09:22 PM

I think he's going on terminal leave, so basically he's on vacation until his retirement date in March, or whatever.

1/29/2018 1:29:09 PM

democrats are planning their own memo? lol, good luck, democrats are terrible at this kind of thing.

1/29/2018 2:32:45 PM

And the fact that the GOP can just vote it down.

Partisan memos are dumb anyway without the underlying classified information.

1/29/2018 2:37:33 PM

i've seen a few comments that say that he is taking his retirement a little early to not allow himself to become a political football

i don't think that will work, but maybe that logic makes sense. i bet he knew he had the vacation saved up and just didn't want to deal with the morons.

also i'm not convinced this is about the memo, if they wanted to release the memo can't nunes just read it into the record or trump declassify it?

[Edited on January 29, 2018 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .]

1/29/2018 2:58:12 PM

If there was anything in the memo worth a shit, it would've already been released or leaked without the weeks of hype and breathless conspiracy theorizing.

1/29/2018 3:40:32 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/house-intelligence-transcript/index.html

Quote :

"Washington (CNN)House Intelligence Committee ranking member Adam Schiff is accusing chairman Devin Nunes of sending a different version of the memo alleging FBI surveillance abuses to the White House than what the committee approved. In a letter to Nunes, Schiff said that his staff discovered Wednesday evening that the memo sent to the White House was "materially different" than the version on which the committee voted. The White House is currently reviewing the four-page classified memo after the committee voted on Monday night to make it public."

1/31/2018 10:54:08 PM

Rand Paul: the only real person in the senate

[Edited on February 8, 2018 at 10:15 PM. Reason : everyone else has been bought.]

2/8/2018 10:15:18 PM

that why he voted for the tax plan?

2/8/2018 10:22:20 PM

Yeah. He's always been about lower taxes.

2/8/2018 10:38:26 PM

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-14/new-hedge-fund-tax-dodge-triggers-wild-rush-back-into-delaware

2/14/2018 10:11:13 AM

^^^^Yea, I generally like Rand Paul. I was a pretty big fan of Ron Paul as well.

2/14/2018 12:07:44 PM

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/14/585725682/house-republicans-open-investigation-into-white-house-handling-of-porter-scandal

+1?

2/14/2018 1:16:32 PM

i want to believe that gowdy is tired of this shit, but it hasn't been long enough to forget benghazi

2/14/2018 2:04:14 PM

The cynic in me says it's a ridiculously low risk way to be 'tough' on Trump.

2/14/2018 2:25:14 PM

Gowdy timeline:

-In general, a team trump cock gobbler
-allegedly writes Nunes memo for Nunes
-talks up the Nunes memo (gon' be bigger than watergate!!!!!!!!!!!')
-shortly after memo release, openly says it changes nothing about the Russian probe, and instead is just narrow questions about the FISA process (giant backpedal).
-announces he won't run again for congress (for bullshit reasons IMO)
-and now wants to investigate over this Porter business.

That's a pretty hard tack right after the memo was released (and seems to be continuing?). Very strange indeed.

2/14/2018 4:37:23 PM