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justinh524
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Lol I didn't see what he was listed at, just saw a picture of him beside Doeren and he was noticeably shorter. So I guess Doeren is like 6'3+.

Also the OL also had offers from Louisville and App. THEY'RE JUST OFFERING THE GUYS WE OFFER!!!!11!!11!!11!!!!!11111

6/8/2019 2:06:20 AM

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ITT I learned that 6'2" is short.

6/8/2019 2:13:42 AM

justinh524
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It's shorter than me, therefore short

6/8/2019 1:24:20 PM

wolfpack2105
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Weird flex, but ok, you dumb cunt

6/9/2019 8:03:58 AM

rwoody
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Jesus

[Edited on June 9, 2019 at 8:48 AM. Reason : ^Prob 5'11"]

6/9/2019 8:47:03 AM

justinh524
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I already admitted I didn't see his height you dumb cunt

6/9/2019 3:03:28 PM

Bullet
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^insufferable

we apparently got two OLs and a DT commitment over the last several days

6/10/2019 9:46:05 AM

LudaChris
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Add another 3* TE this morning with nice upside out of Fayetteville.

Apparently his brother played at Elon and just got selected in the 6th round of the NFL Draft.

6/11/2019 9:05:55 AM

justinh524
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Also had an offer from App. Those damn guys just keep spying on us.

6/11/2019 4:17:47 PM

LudaChris
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If you don't think teams pay attention to who other teams offer, then you're kidding yourself.

You don't think Mack calling Matan while he knew he was visiting us to offer him? You don't think kids getting offered by us and then amassing a lot of other offers shortly thereafter is a little coincidental?

I'm not saying these schools are ONLY offering these kids because we offered them, I think they're paying attention to who we offer/target and then they go out and evaluate those kids. Teams would be foolish not to given our recent track record of putting guys in the NFL.

6/11/2019 8:06:12 PM

justinh524
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"You don't think Mack calling Matan while he knew he was visiting us to offer him? You don't think kids getting offered by us and then amassing a lot of other offers shortly thereafter is a little coincidental?"


mack offering a kid while he was visiting state is just pure gamesmanship, not UNC jumping on a recruit because we offered him.

and yes, i think kids getting offered by us and then others shortly thereafter is coincidence. that is how recruiting works. you act like we are the first offer on every recruit and that no one else knows they exist until doeren offers a kid.

also, we're going to be the first major offer for many in-state kids because 1)doeren has made in-state recruiting a priority and 2) in-state recruiting at UNC was laughable under Fedora and it will take time for them to rebuild relationships with HS coaches.

6/11/2019 8:17:01 PM

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^Yeah, but these aren't just in-state kids that this is happening for.

We offered a 3* TE out of FL on 5/4. FSU offers on 5/19, Miami offers on 5/20, UofSC offers on 5/21.

We offered 3* OT Tim Lawson out of MD on 3/26. UL offers on 4/8 and UNC offers on 5/5.

We offered 3* OG Sean Hill out of GA on 3/29. UL offers on 5/7 and Miami offers on 5/8.

We offered 3* TE Matthew Hibner out of MI on 5/14. GT offers on 5/28 and Michigan offers on 5/30.

So either we're scouting better/faster than everyone in multiple states, including teams in those states, or teams are paying attention to who other teams offer and then scouting those kids themselves. Hell a couple of years ago we were on a TE out of SC that had 0 P5 offers and we offered. Lots of smoke he was considering committing to us and a week later Clemson offers and he ends up there. Just coincidence that Clemson totally missed a kid in their home state and then just happened to find out about him a week after we offer? That was a pretty strong coincidence.

6/12/2019 8:51:18 AM

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We do this too.

Christ.

6/12/2019 9:11:27 AM

dmspack
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Quote :
"We offered a 3* TE out of FL on 5/4. FSU offers on 5/19, Miami offers on 5/20, UofSC offers on 5/21.

We offered 3* OT Tim Lawson out of MD on 3/26. UL offers on 4/8 and UNC offers on 5/5.

We offered 3* OG Sean Hill out of GA on 3/29. UL offers on 5/7 and Miami offers on 5/8.

We offered 3* TE Matthew Hibner out of MI on 5/14. GT offers on 5/28 and Michigan offers on 5/30"


So a team offers weeks or even over a month after we offer and they’re just copying us?

Yes, some of that goes on and I’m sure we do it too. But I can’t get upset about us offering a guy in March and then him getting more offers by May.

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 10:55 AM. Reason : A]

6/12/2019 10:50:57 AM

rwoody
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Miami and UL were the only repeats on that list too. So are ALL teams copying us nationwide, but only sometimes?

6/12/2019 1:25:50 PM

LudaChris
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No, I just don't have the time to post all the instances of it, I tried to focus on the ACC schools or the in-state schools.

I'm not saying we don't do it, we definitely do with out of state kids. I just found Justin's trolling to be a bit annoying when it's very clearly something coaches do.

Amato used to absolutely just recruit kids based on recruiting rankings without really scouting the kids or getting to know them. I don't see that approach as any different than looking at offers and then looking more into the kid.

I just think UL has been a team that is clearly doing this as it's been multiple players and multiple OL. I just don't find it to be a coincidence and Ledford is known to be a...below-average recruiter, so it doesn't surprise me at all that he would just look at guys we identify and then scout them further.

I think a month makes about sense when you get the info coming out of an offer. Then you have to actually reach out, get tape, scout, etc to see if you think the kid holds up. So anywhere from 2 weeks to 1 month for an offer seems very reasonable.

6/12/2019 2:06:28 PM

rwoody
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"every team pays some attention to other teams' recruiting" is a different statement then "Our staff is really good at identifying talent and I believe other schools/analysts are really paying attention to this"

6/12/2019 3:40:36 PM

natureboy
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Why is no one posting about the O lineman we got yesterday? Red light is on.

6/12/2019 9:38:18 PM

AstralEngine
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be the change, natureboy

6/13/2019 4:04:38 PM

GenghisJohn
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sounds like we are in good shape for Safety Nehki Meredith -- 3* out of VA with 20+ offers including LSU, Texas A&M, Penn State, and muh vols

also former pack commit 4* CB Joseph Johnson is back on campus for his OV...doubt he pulls a CJL and recommits but sounds like Doeren et al are putting the full court press on

[Edited on June 15, 2019 at 1:06 PM. Reason : .]

6/15/2019 1:04:53 PM

rwoody
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Meredith committed. No word yet on when other schools offered him after us

6/15/2019 9:41:42 PM

natureboy
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Glad to see us getting some secondary recruits. We definitely need some studs back there.

6/15/2019 9:52:24 PM

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