^ The staff there is awesome. They knew full well we had no intention of buying anything and just wanted to oogle. So one of their salesmen walked us around for an hour, just talking about all the stuff they had - they have a Porshe showroom, an Aston showroom, a few Lambo Murc., several Lambo Gall., and a whole bunch of F430s in their garage, which was the nicest auto maintenance facility I have ever seen.

There was also a BMW Alpina, a few Scaglettis, and too many more to remember. We probably laid our eyes on $1 billion in cars that day.

8/22/2008 11:14:02 AM

^^^I can't read what that sign says other than 2003 Ferrari Enzo.

8/22/2008 12:25:02 PM

"Ferrari Enzo" is what is incorrect.

The name of the vehicle is the "Enzo Ferrari."

The words are backwards.

8/22/2008 1:14:27 PM

The full name of that car is given by company company-founder, hence, it is "Ferrari Enzo Ferrari".

If you skip the company name, it becomes "Enzo Ferrari", which is the actual name of that model.

(just like Ferrari F430, or just F430)

It is not that the company name is written at the end, but that the "Ferrari" at the end refers to the founder, not the company name, and is thus part of the model's name.

Some people drop the "Ferrari" at the end and it becomes just "Enzo". If you then add the company name at the front, it becomes "Ferrari Enzo", which is not incorrect, but incomplete. It would be akin to saying, for example, Ferrari 430 or Ferrai 599.


[Edited on August 22, 2008 at 1:48 PM. Reason : ]

8/22/2008 1:45:29 PM

^ Fully understand, I agree 99% of the time, and you may be right.

But I seem to remember reading something about how the Enzo was "unique" in that it bucks the very convention you just described (that article was knocking the naming of the Enzo, IIRC).

8/22/2008 1:59:18 PM

Quote :

"Props for a very nice pic of a very nice car. But serious man, The 928 was NEVER an exotic car. Come on! "

Based on production numbers? I don't suppose it remotely qualifies as rare (~61,000 928 models produced over a 17-year production run, ~16,000 of which were 1987-1991 S4 models). But in its day, the 928 was an exceptional car...an early S4 set the record at the time for world's fastest production car, 172 MPH in late 1986...the S4's cost well over $70k 20 years ago, which would be well over $100k now...is it just a rarity thing?

Though I suppose "exotic" means something different to everyone based on how often similar debates have occurred in this thread.

8/22/2008 2:19:13 PM

^Well its a much better choice than a 911, or the smart cars people keep posting in here!

8/22/2008 4:00:44 PM

You guys should take a trip to Tokyo. In one day, I saw more supercars and exotics than I have seen in my life. A cheap car for a Tokyo businessman is a Nissan GT-R. I saw every single AMG Mercedes built in the last 5 years, multiple Ferrari's parked beside each other and down one street they have every single exotic car dealer you can imagine. They even had a Alpina dealership. Note: the R34 Nissan GTR does not exist unless they were all imported to the USA after 2 Fast 2 Furious. I never saw one in Japan. I saw multiple R32, R33, and R35 GTRs, but not a single R34.


Has anyone seen an E39 BMW M5? I am in search of one, especially in the color Le Mans Blue.

8/26/2008 6:32:58 PM

I saw a Mercedes CLS550 in the honors village lot on Saturday and a C63 on Monday passing the Coliseum Deck.

8/26/2008 6:34:35 PM

^^ the E39 is far from an exotic, but still one of my favorite cars off all time

there is a maroon M5 that parks in the driveway of the large white house on lassiter mill across from north hills mall. it's there most afternoons.

8/26/2008 11:04:58 PM

^^sweet lord man. Nice post, then you follow up with a double post. And for God's sake, the CLS (while sexy) is not an exotic.

8/26/2008 11:08:19 PM

hahaha there is an e39 here in charlotte with flowmasters on it... if that tells you how much of an exotic it is...

8/27/2008 6:44:41 AM

Saw a Ferrari (think Maranello, not sure) definately 06 or newer, at Pam's Farmhouse on Western. Parked next to a dumpster of all places.

8/27/2008 8:44:01 AM

I like super sedans. I know they are not considered exotics and they make >10,000 of them per year.
The CLS is the sexiest car I have ever seen. If only Mercedes made a CLS65 with the Twin Turbo V12. Fortunately for the low, low price of $250k you can get Brabus to beef up you CLS with a 700hp 6.2L V12.

8/27/2008 1:50:09 PM

mercedes/bmw should not be considered exotic. if thats the case... then I will start posting pics of my civic in here

8/27/2008 4:44:21 PM

Damn. Shit just got real.

8/27/2008 4:52:53 PM

Damn. Shit just got real.

8/27/2008 5:24:25 PM

^, ^^ Naw....



...now it gets real...

8/27/2008 7:47:56 PM

Audi R8, red in color heading northbound on Lake Wheeler Rd just south of Tryon on Monday evening around 6:15-6:20... that makes the second one I've seen, outside of the silver one that has a load of spottings around here.

8/27/2008 8:35:29 PM

^^ ahaha GG. I'm about to get me one of those cars fucker...

8/27/2008 11:34:46 PM

Quote :

"I like super sedans."

Except that what you saw is not one. If the CLS 65 AMG existed, you could post about it here, but not the CLS 63 AMG, and DEFINITELY not the CLS 550. I love the CLS too, but the CLS 550 is neither exotic, nor a super-sedan.

Quote :

"Fortunately for the low, low price of $250k you can get Brabus to beef up you CLS with a 700hp 6.2L V12."

You are talking about the Brabus Rocket, a CLS modded by Brabus. You got the power and engine size slightly wrong, and the price all wrong. 6.3 litres (TT V12), 730 hp, and 348,000 Euros, which makes $500k. And 812 lb-ft, available from 2,100 rpm! It is the world's fastest sedan, having been clocked at 227 mph. It is amazing to see one in real life (I did last month). Even more amazing is the Brabus Bullit ( http://www.autoblog.com/photos/brabus-bullit-black-arrow/ ), which is the C-Class with that same engine... which looks even more amazing, especially in matte black (also saw it). I bet it can go faster, but they haven't tried a run yet. The back passengers have an amazing view (see last pic in the linked gallery). Needless to say, you can get the S, SL, and CL-classes with the same engine.

Quote :

"mercedes/bmw should not be considered exotic."

How about

SLR
SL 65 AMG
Z8?

And what about the Audi R8?


[Edited on August 28, 2008 at 5:24 AM. Reason : ]

8/28/2008 5:14:36 AM

dude i don't give a fuck... that amg black edition i posted on page 5 is an exotic...

8/28/2008 7:40:34 AM

^ i hope that was directed at baonest because i am obviously in agreement with you.

8/28/2008 10:10:35 AM

haha whomever sais a merc isn't

8/28/2008 10:28:50 AM

Are you supposed to round up to to 6.3L when displacement is 6,233CC? I know that some places round up to the next .1L.

I consider imported cars than have >350hp and a top speed >170mph a supercar. The CLS550 will go 180mph. The top speed is just restricted by Mercedes ECU to 155mph, like all of their cars. To get the top speed out of the CLS63, you have to buy an ECU tune from Mercedes when you get the car to change the restriction to 186mph, which is still probably not the top speed of the car. I assume they are running a higher gear ratio in the CLS63 that would put its top speed around 200+mph.

I didn't realize that the Brabus Rocket was 348,000 Euro.

8/28/2008 10:45:51 AM

well in that case, since the 63s are no good, there is a black S65 that is in cameron village from time to time, seen it about 5 times now.

8/28/2008 11:31:25 AM

The rule for this thread is simple.

PICS OR FAIL

8/28/2008 11:57:42 AM

Quote :

"^, ^^ Naw.... ...now it gets real..."

Way to post an S1 Elise

Double the cost of what?
Ugly? Maybe you've never seen one?
Pretentious? Pretentious people buy an Audi, Porsche or BMW.
Isn't half the car a GOOD thing?

8/28/2008 1:48:32 PM

OHH SHIT NEON'S PISSED AGAIN!

8/28/2008 1:56:23 PM

^lol... Damn. Shit just got real.

^^
LOTUS
Leave Out The Unnecessary Stuff

Quote :

"Isn't half the car a GOOD thing?"

In terms of performance, yes, it can if you mean half the weight, and not half the power... In terms of luxury... haha, gl selling me on the idea that half a car is more luxurious than say a Veyron or RR.

Anyways, this is way off topic. Fix it T-dub




[Edited on August 28, 2008 at 2:09 PM. Reason : idk y i posted dis k thanx]

8/28/2008 2:01:23 PM

you fagg0ts get excited about the wrong stuff

8/28/2008 3:28:09 PM

im a lover not a fighter

8/28/2008 11:39:06 PM

i hear that.. maybe some of these guys are too... but loved to the wrong type of thang.

8/28/2008 11:40:42 PM

rarity pretty much determines what's exotic or not

combined with performance

if i see 30 of them a day, pretty much does not qualify, unless you live in boca raton or miami or some shit

















#000076 of 292, WHAT WHAT

[Edited on August 28, 2008 at 11:59 PM. Reason : s]

8/28/2008 11:58:51 PM

Well I see that Audi R8 (silver) going down Wade Ave towards Blue Ridge (from Down town) just about every morning now ~7:45am. Such a beautiful sight. It's sad when I get to work and I think, "damn, I didn't see that Audi today. So sad " lol.

8/29/2008 8:53:53 AM

^^ well hype R=exotic.

see, ive been saying this all along!
i knew it.



#156 of i dont know how many

8/29/2008 9:11:50 AM

you damned right the type R is exotic

they made <4000 total for the US in the 4 yrs they were produced here

and that is one high performing Honda too

Quote :

"-US Imported Production Numbers- Year # Colors Offered 1997- 500 Championship White 1998- 750 Championship White 1999- None Were Offered 2000- 1100 Phoenix Yellow/Nighthawk Black Pearl 2001- 1600 Phoenix Yellow/Nighthawk Black Pearl These are the numbers that are more credible via lots of research 1997 320 (318) 320 CW (100%) 1998 1002 (1023) 1002 CW (100%) 2000 1355 (1347) 573 FBP (42%) 782 PY (58%) 2001 1173 (1157) 523 NBP (45%) 650 PY (55%)"

I saw a red Ford GT on Regency this morning, no pics though

8/30/2008 1:56:15 AM

Black V8 Vantage with red calipers heading west on Blue Ridge today

9/2/2008 12:42:37 PM

Silver BMW Z8 on Wendover Avenue in Greensboro yesterday. Couldn't get a pic though.

9/2/2008 2:29:19 PM

Saw an orange Gallardo on Cary Parkway yesterday. Couldn't get a pic because it was behind me and then turned off.

9/2/2008 2:45:55 PM

i don't know about exotic, but this past wkend in asheville i saw my first GT2 (black) and Skyline (silver), both with 30 day tags. saw them while driving, so i got no pics.

9/3/2008 6:29:01 PM

saw an elise and ford gt....just like every other day i go to work

9/3/2008 6:32:03 PM

Silver Audi R8 at Cameron Village around 6pm

9/3/2008 6:32:13 PM

^^^Sweet Jesus man, of COURSE the GT2 is exotic! Fucking awesome!

9/3/2008 6:34:36 PM

yea...i almost wrecked my car looking at it as i drove by. very mean.

i live and work in cameron village, and i still haven't seen the R8. I keep an eye out for it everyday now.

9/3/2008 10:43:20 PM

yellow 348 Ferrari yesterday

9/3/2008 11:02:16 PM

saw this rolls today but with a white convertible top up

9/3/2008 11:23:16 PM

^^^you ever seen a HOT red '92 GS-R around? I'm living a few blocks from CV for 1-2 months

9/3/2008 11:47:40 PM

Green '08 Gallardo. I know the year b/c when the guy drove by on Glenwood she told me she knows him

9/8/2008 8:51:05 PM

Hm. There's a 2009 Audi R8 F/s at Motorcar Investments... Supposedly has 125 miles on it, but is new. (makes me think it's being driven around town a little). Maybe it's the same R8 we see driven around town? Just a thought. Surely there aren't 2 white R8's runnin around Raleigh... but I could be wrong.

9/9/2008 4:33:09 PM