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The Coz
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"Prob cause mf’er should have known prior that meeting this person was a mistake"

Well, yeah.

12/1/2022 6:12:47 AM

rwoody
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GOP sent out an email with the subject line "88 Words"

12/2/2022 11:30:20 AM

afripino
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GOP be like...

Dec 1st: Kanye
Dec 2nd: Kanye =

12/2/2022 2:11:59 PM

A Tanzarian
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lol @ McConnell and McCartney

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/06/mcconnell-mccarthy-police-gold-medal-ceremony-00072546

12/6/2022 8:06:27 PM

theDuke866
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^^^ wait what?

12/6/2022 9:19:42 PM

rwoody
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^https://twitter.com/RobGeorge/status/1598048976535982080

12/6/2022 11:43:19 PM

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that email is designed to prey on the dumbest of the dumb. but fox news articles have infinite ads if you continue to scroll down past the end of the article, so.

12/7/2022 12:19:03 AM

rwoody
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I think it's more the 88 dog whistle, classic stupid or nazi setup

12/7/2022 11:07:20 AM

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I didn’t know that 88 was a nazi number and I kinda hate to give the benefit of the doubt to these people. But idk…

https://twitter.com/emailsarchive/status/1598401707133833216?s=46&t=u47ZRNsdNIS3v9qIbOWV-Q

But it’s pretty telling that nobody would be terribly surprised if it actually was an intentional nazi dog whistle.

12/7/2022 1:22:02 PM

rwoody
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Yea i saw the follow up tweet too, maybe I'm too deep in people complaining about racist dog whistles so I'm semi familiar with things like 88 and '14 words' and how often they appear on tucker Carlson, say. Could be conspiracy theory nonsense but it seems like if your party is worried about their association with white nationalists, theyd work to avoid any accidental symbolism.

Maybe 'ignorant or nazi' instead of 'stupid or nazi' but I think the 2022 gop has more responsibility to not be ignorant on this topic than you or me.

[Edited on December 7, 2022 at 1:31 PM. Reason : E]

12/7/2022 1:30:32 PM

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12/7/2022 1:31:31 PM

The Coz
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LOL!

12/7/2022 1:35:41 PM

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I've been familiar with the whole 88/Hail Hitler for a while, just from casual reading about white supremacy / neo-nazis

^^what's that about?

[Edited on December 7, 2022 at 2:36 PM. Reason : V ah yes, i'm just realizing he was trying to refer to Pearl Harbor]

12/7/2022 2:27:47 PM

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^^^^i agree. Hard to give the benefit of the doubt to the party that has done a very poor job of distancing themselves from actual nazis.

[Edited on December 7, 2022 at 2:28 PM. Reason : ^ today is not DDay. ]

12/7/2022 2:28:12 PM

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Let's not forget this gem:



[Edited on December 7, 2022 at 6:13 PM. Reason : ]

12/7/2022 6:07:49 PM

PackMan2003
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Have they gone full Nazi yet?

12/8/2022 5:06:34 PM

rwoody
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"Marjorie Taylor Greene’s January 6th comments at last night’s New York Young Republican Club Gala:

“I got to tell you something, if Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won. Not to mention, it would’ve been armed.”"

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status/1602073713788215297

12/11/2022 10:30:21 PM

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https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/12/11/white-nationalists-other-republicans-brace-total-war

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"A collection of radical right figures including white nationalists and ultranationalist European leaders gathered in Manhattan for the New York Young Republicans Club’s (NYYRC) annual gala Saturday night, where that group’s president declared “total war” on perceived enemies."

12/13/2022 12:54:47 AM

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Republicans In Disarray

1/3/2023 2:16:04 PM

HaLo
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Is Trump going to save the day?

1/3/2023 6:23:30 PM

The Coz
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How would he do that?

1/3/2023 7:08:49 PM

aaronburro
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Laughing my ass off at these clowns. I'd like to think it would teach them a lesson about courting these crazies, but I'm not holding my breath

1/3/2023 8:29:49 PM

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^^ https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/can-outsider-be-speaker-house-n441926

1/3/2023 10:58:09 PM

The Coz
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Thanks. I'm aware that's a possibility, but how is that saving the day, and do you think he could get the votes either? I doubt it. I assumed you meant he would hand-pick a unification candidate.

Speaker Herschel Walker?!

1/4/2023 7:38:53 AM

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I will run as the unification candidate

1/4/2023 7:47:32 AM

HaLo
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I doubt Trump could get the votes needed for speaker but it would be entertaining and scary as hell at the same time for him to throw his hat in the ring.

1/4/2023 11:24:45 AM

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I'm gonna laugh my ass off when they give it Jeffries out if spite

1/4/2023 6:36:52 PM

The Coz
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That seems impossible.

1/4/2023 7:48:39 PM

aaronburro
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For this crew... I wouldn't count it out

1/4/2023 9:30:38 PM

afripino
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Kanye for Speaker?

1/4/2023 11:14:05 PM

theDuke866
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How does this resolve?

1. GOP majority caves
2. MAGA dipshits cave
3.Plurality vote--MAGA dipshits get cucked and vote for McCarthy
4. Plurality vote--MAGA dipshits commit ritual suicide by not voting McCarthy; Dems elect Speaker Jeffries
5. Dems walk out or vote "present", allowing GOP majority to elect McCarthy

1/5/2023 12:07:04 AM

aaronburro
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6. MAGA dipshits play chicken by having 8 or 9 vote present, and some other R uninvolved with it votes present, too, putting Jeffries in

1/5/2023 12:54:38 AM

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I don't see the Freedom Caucus caving on McCarthy without significant concessions. There's personal animosity there dating back to at least Boehner's term.

I think the most likely outcome is something similar to Paul Ryan's election as Speaker.

Jeffries will not be Speaker this term.

1/5/2023 1:17:48 AM

rjrumfel
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Fuck the freedom caucus.

1/5/2023 8:54:44 AM

marko
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I'm going with Duke's #1.

1/5/2023 8:57:16 AM

The Coz
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But in this scenario, what are they caving to? Massive concessions or another candidate?

1/5/2023 10:27:58 AM

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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/01/05/us/house-speaker-vote

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"After losing a half-dozen consecutive votes for the post over two humiliating days, Mr. McCarthy privately agreed to more demands from the right-wing rebels that he had previously refused to countenance, including allowing a single lawmaker to force a snap vote at any time to oust him from the speakership, according to three people familiar with the negotiations who described them on the condition of anonymity, noting that they were ongoing and that no final deal had been reached.

The Republican leader had also committed to allowing the right-wing faction to handpick a third of the party’s members on the powerful Rules Committee, which controls what legislation reaches the floor and in what form, according to one of the people, who has been involved in the talks, as well as to opening spending bills to a freewheeling debate in which any lawmaker could propose changes, including those designed to scuttle or sink the measure.

Taken together, the concessions would weaken the speaker’s power considerably and make for an unwieldy environment in the House, where the slim Republican majority already promised to make it difficult to govern. And it was not clear the offer would be enough to corral the votes for Mr. McCarthy to prevail."

1/5/2023 12:27:42 PM

The Coz
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Can't wait for next debt limit increase debacle.

Hide yo 401(k)s, cause they rapin' e're'one's retirement out here!

When the people who want to burn it all down hold power, we're screwed. The Democrats should have scrapped that whole charade when they were still in power and it was obvious what was going to happen.

1/5/2023 1:31:39 PM

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lol, McCarthy gave up all that and got nothing for it

1/5/2023 2:16:27 PM

rwoody
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I like that news sites make a point to use "embarrassing" and/or "humiliating" in every update

1/5/2023 2:55:57 PM

The Coz
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And a picture of him with a sad or exasperated face.

1/5/2023 3:09:45 PM

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^^^ even if he gets elected speaker as a result (which is far from guaranteed), that's not much of a win. He'll be stuck holding on to the pockets of 10-15% of the House GOP, or he'll get schwacked and we'll be right back where we started. Why in the hell would anyone take that deal or anything even remotely close to it?

I understand I have no experience with being a Congressman, let alone running for Speaker, or with lobbying or wielding influence, but I think I would keep running a few votes every day to stall for time as long as nothing HAD to get done soon, while continuing to work on donors, conservative media power brokers, etc to pull these douchebags into line. Maybe I would have made some minor concessions, but nothing like what KM has given them.

...and if, after however many days, that didn't work, I would pass the word that there would be one more vote, and I had better be elected Speaker at the end of it. They don't all have to vote for me, but they needed to pick and choose who could posture and who would fall in line...and I didn't care who, but I had better have a majority after that vote--and if I didn't, not only would the next move be to rescind every concession I had previously offered, but to put forth a plurality vote where their choices would be to either rest my balls on their chins, or rest Hakeem Jeffries' balls on their chins.

...and then if they elected a Dem Speaker, then they could answer to the voters, donors, and everyone else in the party for that...and as for me, to hell with it, I'm not getting on my knees for the privilege of being an utterly ineffectual leader of a shitshow, so no big loss.

...and then if they pussied out and I became Speaker, I would strip anyone who actually went through with voting for Jeffries of every committee assignment, every fundraising dollar, etc that I could.

[Edited on January 5, 2023 at 8:46 PM. Reason : ]

1/5/2023 8:38:34 PM

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^ this. He's got 10-15 certifiably insane people that he's got to deal with for at least the next two years and hope that not a single one of them goes off their meds and ousts him? Gaetz sex trafficked a 17 year old. Gosar gave a flag to someone who tried to overthrow the God damned government. Others refused to vote for a measure to recognize the Capitol police for preventing the assassination of the mother fucking vice president. Boebert is knee deep in qanon bullshit. Greene is speaking at fucking neo Nazi rallies. These people shouldn't be allowed to walk the God damned streets, much less the halls of Congress, and he's contemplating letting them basically run the House?

Fuck that, call their bluff. One more vote, and then propose a plurality. Otherwise, you hand the House, Senate, and WH over to the Dems in 2 years, as the midterms showed the country is simply not on board with these crazy people at large.

1/5/2023 9:15:00 PM

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McCarthy doesn't have the MAGAverse media pull to pressure the Freedom Caucus. Even Trump's endorsement didn't move the needle. Plus, most of these people are Tea Party types for whom a non-functional government is a good thing.

A plurality vote would first require a majority-vote rule change.

1/6/2023 12:56:11 AM

The Coz
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Are the concessions being made / offered by McCarthy applicable to only his (potential) speakership, or durable for all future speakerships as well?

1/6/2023 8:01:58 AM

theDuke866
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^^ you’d think getting a majority to approve a plurality vote would be very easy, right?

1/6/2023 9:28:41 AM

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I can't imagine that Dems would be too opposed to approving a temporary rules change which would potentially give them the Speaker's position when they are in the minority...

1/6/2023 9:40:33 AM

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There's no way Republicans are going to vote for a plurality election and risk giving up the Speaker. Nor do I see Democrats giving Republicans an easy way out of their dysfunction anytime soon.

Also, Jeffries is getting unanimous Democratic support right now because he can't win. We don't actually know how they'd vote if a Democratic Speaker was a possibility.

^^^ The House can always vote on new rules.

1/6/2023 12:08:07 PM

rwoody
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Chaos

1/6/2023 11:57:39 PM

aaronburro
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So, how long until one of these qtards demands a new speaker

1/7/2023 12:47:20 PM

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