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1/9/2012 2:31:48 PM

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Even one game into conference play, I think the talents of Lorenzo Brown are apparent (after all, 1 game into conference play means you've already seen a lot of these players in the ACC almost 15 different nights).

I'll grant that it would probably be nice to see these times in conference play a little longer before saying who is the best from within the conference. Brown is definitely proving why he was recruited so highly.

1/9/2012 2:35:51 PM

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"after all, 1 game into conference play means you've already seen a lot of these players in the ACC almost 15 different nights"

there's no way that you've actually sat down and watched unc play more than twice this season.

1/9/2012 2:52:23 PM

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^
Hell, I've done that. The Carrier game, UK, and UNLV off the top of my head.

1/9/2012 2:54:02 PM

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hell, i even watched most of the UNC/Monmouth game

1/9/2012 2:56:46 PM

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dude, don't make me edit the post to say three times.

and if you're regularly blocking out two hours to watch unc basketball, i'd deny that.

[Edited on January 9, 2012 at 2:58 PM. Reason : that's a bit much, even for me.]

1/9/2012 2:57:07 PM

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^
Haha, I'll concede to that post.

1/9/2012 3:00:21 PM

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I've got picture inside of picture inside of picture and i'm very good at multi-multi-tasking.

1/9/2012 3:04:26 PM

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"Pack's Brown finds handle, earns praiseArticle4 Comments
BY EDWARD G. ROBINSON III The News and Observer

RALEIGH -- N.C. State sophomore Lorenzo Brown reacted as any player would after learning he was being moved to the point guard position where ballhandling is premium. He went to the gym.
"First thing I did was try to work on my handles," Brown said of this season's move from shooting guard.
"That's what I thought a point guard is suppose to have. But it's a lot more to it. It was the most frustrating thing I've had to go through in my basketball career, having to make that transition."

It may have been frustrating, but Brown has adapted, even flourished. As the Wolfpack prepares to visit Wake Forest on Saturday (1 p.m., WRAL), the 6-foot-5 guard has emerged as one of the ACC's must-see players. With Brown at point guard, the Wolfpack (12-5, 1-1 ACC) is averaging 77.0 points per game - third best in the conference behind Duke and North Carolina.
While directing a Wolfpack offense featuring five players averaging double-figure scoring - including his own 12.5 points per game - Brown has:
Averaged 6.8 assists per contest, which ranks him second in the conference and seventh nationally in assists.
Averaged a 2.3 assist/turnover ratio, third-best among ACC players.
Averaged 1.8 steals per game (second-best in the ACC).
Last week, he earned ACC Player of the Week honors after averaging 19.0 points, 8.0 assists and 5.5 rebounds in leading the Wolfpack to a pair of wins over Campbell (Dec. 29) and Western Carolina (Dec. 31).
Brown was asked to make the difficult transition from off-guard to lead guard following the arrival of first-year coach Mark Gottfried and the transfer of point guard Ryan Harrow to Kentucky.
Where the shooting guard is primarily responsible for scoring, the point guard serves as the administrator of the team, surveying opponents, calling plays and dispensing information. Most point guards grow up playing the position and develop an innate sense for the demands of their job.
"At times, he's been terrific," Gottfried said recently of Brown.
For those who've played college basketball, there's a respect for players who successfully move from the off-guard position to point guard.
"You've got to think 'team first,' " former N.C. State point guard Chris Corchiani said. "You have to be in control. You have to be an extension of the coach. (Brown) really has done a good job in grasping all of those things."


Scoring came first
For much of his life on the basketball court, Brown has been a scorer. Now, he's expected to deliver the ball to others.
"At the beginning, it was frustrating," he said.
Brown had spent some time as a point guard while playing for Centennial High School in Roswell, Ga., and then during a prep season at Hargrave Military Academy. Yet more often, he deferred to someone else or to Harrow, his teammate last season, to make the passes.
Harrow's departure hurt Brown, but he regrouped with the support of Gottfried. From the start, the Wolfpack's new coach instilled confidence in him about playing a new position. He told Brown they would work daily at the process.
Gottfried, who recruited Brown while coaching at Alabama, announced Brown as the "quarterback" of the team this fall and placed his read-based offense into the sophomore's hands.
"Now you're responsible for our possessions," Gottfried explained to him. "You're responsible for how our team plays offensively. Sometimes you get a lot of the blame. You get a lot of credit, too."
In his straight-talking way, Gottfried warned Brown that point guards in his system are regarded highly and are burdened with high expectations.
"If we have a bad possession offensively or somebody else takes a bad shot, I blame the point guard," Gottfried said. "It's your fault. ... Your role is to make sure we get good shots every time down the floor."


Steep learning curve
Gottfried found every opportunity to teach his new point guard, even though his methods were sometimes tough.
He chided Brown about his erratic ball-handling and turnovers in practice.
"I always felt like he was picking on me," Brown said. "I'd be like, 'Man, are you going to back off of me some time?' He'd be like, 'I don't care about you pouting.' "
Brown, who can be introverted, never retreated into a shell. He's a tall guard and tends to stand erect while dribbling, exposing the ball to shorter guards. So he kept working on dribbling low with the ball and bending his knees.
"You're a more dangerous player if you're lower," State assistant coach Bobby Lutz told Brown.
To help Brown learn from mistakes, State coaches review film with him after games. Decisions are discussed, plays broken down.
"It's a process where you keep doing that over and over and over again," Gottfried said.
Brown worries a lot more as a point guard while playing a team-high 32.8 minutes per game.
"There's so much pressure on you," he said. "If you're running the team, running the right plays at the right time. Setting up, slowing the break down. There's so much you have to do."


Embracing the change
Brown often calls the offensive play State runs during a half-court set, basing the call on a read of the defense facing him.
That responsibility complicated Brown's life as he was learning the position.
"I'm still at the bottom of that right now," he said. "It's a lot of reads. I still don't know all of the reads to tell the truth. Coach has so many options to go through."
Slim and swift, Brown's at his best in the open court.
"He's pushing the ball, he's rebounding and he's dishing it out," State junior forward Richard Howell said. "That's exactly what we need."
Brown has approached the transition with a student-of-the-game mentality.
He spends his down time studying YouTube highlights of Derrick Rose and other NBA point guards, or reading "how to play point guard" material assigned by State's assistant coaches.
"He's probably playing as well as any point guard in the ACC right now," said State junior forward Scott Wood.
"I think it's fun," Brown said. "It's a lot of fun to just run fast breaks, throw alley-oops, throw no-look passes. What else can you ask for?"

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1/23/2012 11:15:23 AM

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How about you post a link so that we can access the piece in a readable state?

1/23/2012 11:31:42 AM

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You can't read that? It's from the N&O, January 13th I think (old). I don't like linking to the N&O.

1/23/2012 11:33:39 AM

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I mean I can read it, but it's a big shitty block with long lines of text. I'm on a big boy monitor over here. Post the link.

1/23/2012 11:34:51 AM

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if you really want to read it, can't you find the link yourself?

it took me 7 seconds to find this:

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/01/13/1774182/packs-brown-finds-handle.html

1/23/2012 11:42:37 AM

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I don't really want to read it

Just trying to set a good precedent, JUSTIN

1/23/2012 11:48:26 AM

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well, yeah i mean he probably shouldn't just copy/paste whole articles BERT.

1/23/2012 11:51:22 AM

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sorry, i'm going to cut/paste N&O articles, I don't want to give them any extra web traffic.... unless they start doing more favorable articles like this.

1/23/2012 4:19:57 PM

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oops, i meant to say "I'm NOT going to cut/paste...."

1/23/2012 4:51:04 PM

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if you want them to write more favorable articles... maybe you start by linking to the ones that you like?

they do this shit on trends man, not by reading tww.

1/23/2012 7:38:32 PM

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Just got a shout out on the OKST vs Missouri game on ESPN2

Commentator called him one of the most underrated players in the country.

1/25/2012 8:40:01 PM

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Brown Bounces Back

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/1155922.html

2/6/2012 10:01:47 AM

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""I'm proud of [Lorenzo] because he kind of got down on himself a little bit and he picked himself back up this game," added senior guard Lorenzo Brown. "

2/6/2012 10:24:09 AM

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One way to regain your confidence is to compliment yourself in first person, and let yourself know how proud you are of yourself.

2/6/2012 10:29:42 AM

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^^hahaha

2/6/2012 10:48:58 AM

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""I'm proud of [Lorenzo] because he kind of got down on himself a little bit and he picked himself back up this game," added senior guard C.J. Williams. "I just kept talking to him, telling him to fight through it because that's how basketball goes.""


And it's the third person.

[Edited on February 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM. Reason : .]

2/6/2012 11:32:52 AM

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the Jimmy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Apa0nG1OfUc

2/6/2012 11:51:27 AM

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^^oh yeah, it's been a while since ENG 101/102. And I see they corrected it. That's what sets them and PI apart.

2/6/2012 1:12:34 PM

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Lorenzo Brown is the sickness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzIDm3GRag&feature=player_embedded#!

(16 pts, 5 rbs, 5 assists, 3 TOs)

3/1/2012 3:26:21 PM

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that was one of his best games of the year. It just seems like he can score so effortlessly sometimes I don't understand why he doesn't attack more often.

The only really bad play he had was the turnover on that lazy bounce pass. Other than that great game.

3/1/2012 3:27:58 PM

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He made Miami look silly quite a few times last night, but the play the ended in the Painter dunk was just ridiculous.

He juked like 4 players.

3/1/2012 4:48:43 PM

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I, too, was pleased with his performance last night

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 4:58 PM. Reason : ]

3/1/2012 4:58:43 PM

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MADE

HIS

FTs

3/1/2012 4:59:01 PM

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"Lorenzo Brown is the sickness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgzIDm3GRag&feature=player_embedded#!"


changes to 1080p.... still shitty quality

3/1/2012 5:07:53 PM

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Being forced to move to PG is the best thing that could've happened to Zo. He had zero chance at the NBA as a shooting guard, but you can see him developing into an NBA pg if he continues to work.

3/1/2012 5:32:34 PM

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while re-caulking the bath-tub, i think i just heard that zo is 5 assists away from tying spud webb at #7 for most wolfpack assists (career or season?)

3/6/2012 10:46:03 PM

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Gotta be the leslie-brown-wood show in the ACCT if we stand any chance, with a little williams thrown in on the side.

3/6/2012 10:48:47 PM

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and Howell need to continue averaging 10.8 ppg and 9.3 rpg in only 26.9 mpg.
and hopefully Howell can minimize his silly fouls and play a few more minutes to do some more damage.

3/6/2012 11:03:06 PM

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If Howell hasn't learned to stop the silly fouls by now, I'm doubting he learns this weekend.

Some of the calls against him are complete shit, sure, but sometimes it's just him being a lumbering dumbass. The fouls on the perimeter when he doubles the ballhandler are the absolute worst.

3/7/2012 12:36:47 AM

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what you're referring to is called "showing".

3/7/2012 12:42:30 AM

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of course he hasn't learned. Doesn't matter what game - he will always be in foul trouble.

3/7/2012 9:22:17 AM

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howell just got called for a foul while waiting in line at mcdonalds. apparently he stepped out of line to block a line cutter and bumped him.

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 9:25 AM. Reason : haha, bumped, not humped him.]

3/7/2012 9:25:04 AM

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"what you're referring to is called "showing"."


He makes contact every time. It's "hedging."

3/7/2012 9:29:22 AM

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Floor General

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 9:30 AM. Reason : d]

3/7/2012 9:30:04 AM

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^^^humping would have been a better earned foul than half the stuff Howell commits.

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 9:30 AM. Reason : I appreciate Brown. What can Brown do for you?]

3/7/2012 9:30:11 AM

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"while re-caulking the bath-tub, i think i just heard that zo is 5 assists away from tying spud webb at #7 for most wolfpack assists (career or season?)"

cool story bro

and it's single-season

3/7/2012 11:03:18 AM

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LOL to think a guy would be #7 in career assists after 2 seasons....

3/7/2012 11:06:42 AM

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Spud Webb!

3/7/2012 11:25:40 AM

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God, Manute Bol scares the fuck out of me

3/7/2012 11:26:19 AM

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Ah, Manute Bol. Dude was black.

3/7/2012 11:31:27 AM

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funniest thing was when manute bol would hit a three

3/7/2012 2:30:34 PM

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^Or 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eiox8m_Nk3c&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJxXi_AUN6w

[Edited on March 7, 2012 at 2:36 PM. Reason : pt 1]

3/7/2012 2:35:20 PM

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