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beatsunc
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twenty one members of supreme court next time democrats have a chance amirite

[Edited on October 8, 2018 at 8:29 PM. Reason : s]

10/8/2018 8:28:13 PM

BridgetSPK
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"Republicans could've pulled Kavanaugh's nomination and made a big show of being reasonable, bipartisan and sensitive to women's issues. They didn't."


Just wanna add that this isn't necessarily a women's issue. These pricks are the kinda guys who sexually assault dudes, too.

Like, I get that boys have fist fights and stuff. But I also noticed that some guys think it's fun to scrawl penises on other guys' faces when they're asleep...so I'm pretty sure they're doing some sexual assault on occasion, too.

10/9/2018 3:59:15 AM

Cherokee
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"The goal of politics is not electoral victories. It's executive, legislative, and judicial action."


Considering this, the GOP is using realpolitik while Democrats complain and whine about the rules. It's exactly how Russia has played its hand against the United States.

Invade Ukraine

"Hey you can't do that, it's against the rules!"

"Come and stop me."

"No, but it's not fair, it's against the rules."

Same exact way McConnell and his minions have run things.

10/9/2018 3:30:11 PM

adultswim
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definitely the most bizarre way you've tried to push for world war 3

10/9/2018 3:39:03 PM

shoot
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He looks like John Edwards.

10/9/2018 3:47:24 PM

moron
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Society is based on a social contract, but it’s extrEmely easy to reject this social contract if you have the resources to do so.

The GOP has basicallly rejected the social contract built up over the past few decades that people should at least try to find a common agreement on truths, and they’re now operating where only Trump’s truth matters.

It’s like a reverse enlightenment era philosophy.

[Edited on October 9, 2018 at 4:51 PM. Reason : ]

10/9/2018 4:50:08 PM

rjrumfel
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https://www.brettkavanaugh.com/

10/11/2018 7:09:47 PM

Dentaldamn
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Someone’s getting fired.

10/11/2018 7:47:56 PM

rjrumfel
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I thought it was standard practice when, going for any type of position like that, to buy up all possible domains.

10/11/2018 9:48:53 PM

theDuke866
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" Nope. This was a win. Liberals have convinced themselves that elections are the only thing that matters (which they still fucking manage to lose). This is an incorrect take."


Hmm...

I think maybe this was a win for the GOP in the sense you're describing, where a young, lifetime-appointed SCOTUS justice to win a solid majority on the Court is probably rightly viewed as worth a few Congressional seats in one election where they were likely to lose at least the House regardless.

...and maybe there some who made that sort of cold-blooded, realpolitik calculation.

...but I think a lot of the party was more on reptile-brain power on this one. They could have withdrawn him and replaced him with another jurist, interchangeable on policy and jurisprudence. They'd still get the SCOTUS power, they would have had an easier time confirming another nominee, and they wouldn't have further damaged their credibility and political capital and public approval. Yes, this might energize a few cretins next month, but no way it was worth the longer term and bigger picture damage over simply nominating someone else. I think a lot of the Kavenaugh thing was, from a Senate GOP perspective, just sticking their fingers in the eyes of Democrats due to some degree of justified rage at their tactics. "Owning the libs", as so much seems to be driven by at the moment.

That, and from the White House's perspective, a sympathetic vote in terms of executive authority, that might come in handy in the next year or more. Trump is the furthest thing from a wonk or expert on the finer points of jurisprudence, but he's a fucking top-tier expert at singularly-focused looking out for #1, and he loves a sycophant.

10/11/2018 9:49:05 PM

moron
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http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-court-jail-immigrants-20181010-story.html

Kavanaugh is suggesting that lawful immigrants who may have served time for a crime decades earlier don’t deserve due process now, if they weren’t immediately deported earlier.

A little ironic...

10/12/2018 12:23:04 AM

synapse
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Elections have consequences

Fuck the DNC

10/12/2018 12:41:55 AM

JesusHChrist
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"...and maybe there some who made that sort of cold-blooded, realpolitik calculation."


Yeah, that's basically what this was. Yes, Republicans are stupid like you said, but they are also ideologically committed to reducing the political purchase of their adversaries. Getting an absolute partisan like Kavanaugh on the court strengthens their vice-like grip on the levers of power. The Republicans long ago gave up trying to win the battle of ideas. So in order to maintain power, they have to dis-empower their political adversaries. They do that by denying their opponent (Obama) a court member, and by packing the court with their guys (4 out of 9 current justices have been appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote).

And that is how they undermine democracy in order to maintain power. And it's how they advance their ideological mission over a country that popularly opposes their worldview.

Assuming they'll pay some sort of price for their actions is politically naive at this point, because they are getting closer and closer to consolidating power to the point of not having to worry themselves with these silly democratic norms.

10/12/2018 2:16:43 AM

TerdFerguson
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/us/politics/heritage-foundation-clerks-judges-training.html

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"WASHINGTON — The closed-door “training academy” was aimed at a select group: recent law school graduates who had secured prestigious clerkships with federal judges. It was organized by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative group that has played a leading role in moving the courts to the right, and it had some unusual requirements.

“Generous donors,” the application materials said, were making “a significant financial investment in each and every attendee.” In exchange, the future law clerks would be required to promise to keep the program’s teaching materials secret and pledge not to use what they learned “for any purpose contrary to the mission or interest of the Heritage Foundation.”"


The only thing you can absolutely count on conservatives to do is push their partisanship to the absolute limits in every institution they can possibly sink their tentacles into.

[Edited on October 18, 2018 at 5:47 PM. Reason : And that a rich ass donor will be there to make it worth their while]

10/18/2018 5:47:15 PM

A Tanzarian
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Hey, there's the other side of the GOP's George Soros projections.

10/18/2018 6:14:07 PM

TerdFerguson
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FUCK bitches SOROS


GET MONEY!!!!!!!!!

[Edited on October 18, 2018 at 6:45 PM. Reason : I’d change sides for a fat check right aboot now]

10/18/2018 6:44:42 PM

thegoodlife3
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https://medium.com/@trevorhughdavis/clarence-thomass-wife-is-sharing-fake-news-about-the-caravan-3e62bee95b81

Clarence Thomas is married to a wingnut

10/23/2018 8:48:03 PM

nacstate
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RBG hospitalized after fall in her office.

GOP

11/8/2018 9:31:38 AM

dtownral
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If she dies just leave her on life support for a couple years

11/8/2018 9:57:29 AM

HCH
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Too soon to start the nomination and unfounded accusation process?

11/8/2018 1:51:34 PM

rjrumfel
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This would be disastrous for the court if she has to resign her post.

I'm all about conservative ideals, but a stacked court will help no one. Opposing ideas are great ways to get the right outcome. I don't see how anyone thinks rubber stamping SC cases could be a good thing.

11/8/2018 1:57:24 PM

Dentaldamn
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Im not even clear what conservative ideals are anymore.

please use other words bc its pointless now.

11/8/2018 2:00:53 PM

thegoodlife3
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^^^ unfounded, eh?

11/8/2018 2:05:15 PM

Bullet
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https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/yw7wqm/supreme-court-chief-justice-roberts-makes-rare-statement-to-scold-trump

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"The highest-ranking judge in the United States Supreme Court issued a stern rebuke of the president’s most recent attack of the judicial system Wednesday.

Chief Justice John Roberts, who was nominated to the U.S. Supreme Court in 2005 by George W. Bush, took the remarkable step of issuing a statement condemning Trump after the president attempted to discredit a recent ruling by the Ninth Circuit against his administration’s immigration policy.

“You go the Ninth Circuit and it’s a disgrace,” Trump told reporters during a gaggle outside the White House on Tuesday. “This was an Obama judge.”

“We do not have Obama judges or Trump judges, Bush judges or Clinton judges,” Roberts said in the statement. “What we have is an extraordinary group of dedicated judges doing their level best to do equal right to those appearing before them. That independent judiciary is something we should all be thankful for.”"

11/21/2018 4:13:31 PM

JesusHChrist
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So basically the president realizes that the supreme court is an ideological and partisan branch of government, and Justice Robert's doesn't.

This idea that "honorable" men and women in government should rise above partisanship for the "good of the country" is a liberal myth that needs to die. Politics is about power. Always has been. One side sees the ideological utility of shaping the courts and denying their opponents their right to seat judges. The other side loses to elections to Donald fucking Trump.

11/21/2018 4:53:42 PM

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