3/3/2016 1:37:30 PM

3/3/2016 1:40:42 PM

the corporate media keeps reporting that hillary is halfway. anything to fuel the narrative that it is already over so bernie sanders need not show up to the remaining primaries.

3/3/2016 1:44:39 PM

^^
shill all you want. facts are facts.

3/3/2016 1:48:11 PM

lol excluding superdelegates

bros gonna bro

3/3/2016 2:44:24 PM

using the superdelegate argument to say he can't win just makes you look like a dipshit at this point. superdelegates have never gone against the will of the people

3/3/2016 2:47:42 PM

and right now the "will of the people" has Hillary with 60.7% of the popular vote (not including the "other" votes from primaries)

almost 2 out of every 3 people who have voted have voted for hillary.

that's the fucking will of the people

[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 2:57 PM. Reason : bro, bro, bro your boat]

3/3/2016 2:56:34 PM

lol goddamn you're insufferable

At the current pace he needs to average 57% of the non-southern States. Judging by how CO went, it's far from over.

3/3/2016 2:59:16 PM

dude is a reddit trump supporter

3/3/2016 3:06:09 PM

^is that gonna be what you keep saying to make yourself feel better?

^^clinton got more popular votes in virginia alone than bernie did in the 4 states where he's beaten that 57% threshold so far (CO, MN, VT, NH). she got more than double that count in texas alone.

57% in the dakotas, the front range, and pac NW ain't going to make a dent in the popular vote gains clinton will get from places like illinois, california, and florida

[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 3:14 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2016 3:12:58 PM

yuuuuuuge

3/3/2016 3:15:21 PM

i'm pretty happy i broke you by super tuesday

3/3/2016 3:18:14 PM

goalielax is sweating

low energy, scared to face sanders in the general

3/3/2016 3:18:25 PM

i think the best part of it is i have been arguing solely for hillary, yet you guys need a boogeyman, so you try to pin trump on me

your desperation reeks

3/3/2016 3:21:04 PM

suuuper low energy, very small hands low energy

3/3/2016 3:36:52 PM

r/the_Donald doesn't like Hillary, but they also troll sanders supporters because they know she's an easy opponent

either way it's pretty clear we disagree so i don't see any reason to argue your trollish & disingenuous points anymore

3/3/2016 3:39:47 PM

i thought everyone already stopped taking him seriously pages ago



[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 3:42 PM. Reason : yuuuuuge]

3/3/2016 3:41:23 PM

i haven't taken goalielax seriously for years but it's good to practice

3/3/2016 3:57:59 PM

pointing out hillary's current dominant lead in the popular vote isn't trolling or disingenuous

stating that she's only going to grow that lead in places like illinois, florida, and california isn't isn't trolling or disingenuous

pointing out that Bernie has only hit that 57% in 4 states, ones with relatively small voter counts, isn't trolling or disingenuous

stating that the superdelegates are going to go with hillary because that is "the will of the people" (as you so eloquently put it) as evidenced by the popular vote isn't trolling or disingenuous

and it's not trolling to say you guys just can't handle the facts. because you can't. you live in the same fantasy world that bernie lives in. you just can't comprehend that all the gains that bernie's campaign got in a surprise Colorado victory was massively overshadowed by what clinton did in getting 66% of Texas or 72% of Georgia

try no to vomit when reality sets in



[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 4:49 PM. Reason : ok the gif was trolling]

3/3/2016 4:46:25 PM

^ pretty much.

I get that people want to 'believe' in Sanders and that they think staying positive will somehow will him to victory, but that's not how this works.

3/3/2016 5:07:14 PM

Quote :

"and right now the "will of the people" has Hillary with 60.7% of the popular vote "

You realize what "right now" means right? That means shit can change. That's the whole point of excluding them from current delegate counts. Is it probable that Bernie will win enough delegates to force the superdelegates to side with him? No. But it's definitely possible.

3/3/2016 5:19:29 PM

Quote :

"was massively overshadowed by what clinton did in getting 66% of Texas or 72% of Georgia "

We just don't really care about what happens in the deep south super red states. I admit that the Massachusetts loss hurt but was narrow. The nevada and iowa losses hurt but were narrow. The deep south was written off from the start. Other than all of that, he's kicking her ass everywhere else

[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 6:32 PM. Reason : can she win a blue state?]

3/3/2016 6:31:55 PM

Hillary has 60% of the vote so far, but only 20% of the vote has been cast. So really the score in the race to 51 is Hillary on top 12-8.

300 delegates, or 7.5% are up for grabs from March 5-8.

3/3/2016 6:40:41 PM

"the south" is just the latest excuse. nobody was talking about how much you didn't care about "the south" 4 days ago. it's only since bernie got his ass kicked down there that suddenly they don't matter.

which of these states is Bernie going to win by double digits (which, mind you, would mean getting 20-30 point swings from the latest polls in each state)?

California
New York
Illinois
Pennsylvania
Ohio
Michigan

[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 7:12 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2016 7:10:46 PM

^
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/2/1494588/-Bernie-Sanders-has-won-56-1-of-delegates-outside-of-the-South

3/3/2016 7:19:00 PM

no one ever said he would do well in the south. hes going to get crushed in mississippi louisiana and north carolina. a non christian has 0 chance at winning a southern state. thats just the reality. religion is the most important thing. People down there don't want to associate with people who don't believe jesus is the savior so of course they won't vote for one as president.

Bernie has always been a progressive revolution. Its never been expected that he would attract right wing moderates to vote for him like hillary does. He's too consistently progressive for that.

I'm not saying he's going to win the other states but I am saying that its not over until people have voted and from what we've seen, Hillary has been crushed in every blue state. If that trend continues, she could lose. Also, time is everything. With each passing day, one of her four investigations could release a bombshell that kills her campaign instantly.

3/3/2016 7:20:39 PM

^^that has no bearing on my question

3/3/2016 8:33:03 PM

Yuuuuuge

3/3/2016 8:43:47 PM

lol yeah i broke you good

3/3/2016 8:51:16 PM

Quote :

"no one ever said he would do well in the south. hes going to get crushed in mississippi louisiana and north carolina. a non christian has 0 chance at winning a southern state. thats just the reality. religion is the most important thing. People down there don't want to associate with people who don't believe jesus is the savior so of course they won't vote for one as president. "

why do they support Trump

3/3/2016 8:59:45 PM

because half of america is dumber than the average american

3/3/2016 9:08:41 PM

trump is a christian.

3/3/2016 9:24:48 PM

all good christians confuse the communion tray for the offering plate

3/4/2016 9:08:26 AM

Bernie supporters are ignoring the fact that no candidate, republican or democrat, has come back from a 100+ delegate deficit in the primaries to win.

linking an in depth post on just how in the hole Bernie is right now

https://np.reddit.com/r/PoliticalDiscussion/comments/48wcb5/the_math_suggests_bernie_needs_56_in_every_state/d0n4sid

3/4/2016 11:06:41 AM

yah that's a little too "in-depth" for me to care about

[Edited on March 4, 2016 at 11:18 AM. Reason : who has the time???]

3/4/2016 11:17:43 AM

Quote :

"why do they support Trump "

hate for minorities and muslims is as good as love for jesus in the south.

3/4/2016 2:45:01 PM

Quote :

"yah that's a little too "in-depth" for me to care about"

if you want the tl;dr version, just go back and read my posts in this thread. because it's saying basically the same thing.

3/4/2016 3:18:56 PM

I guess I just don't care in general?

[Edited on March 4, 2016 at 3:39 PM. Reason : Was just trying to be nice]

3/4/2016 3:39:18 PM

redditors love long winded posts with lots of numbers. rarely are they ever fact checked. i def don't have the time to comb through it.

plenty people saying he can win, plenty people saying he can't

3/4/2016 3:59:11 PM

how many of those candidates up +100 have had ongoing fbi investigations?

3/4/2016 5:01:17 PM

Quote :

"I guess I just don't care in general?"

willful ignorance takes less effort

[Edited on March 4, 2016 at 9:54 PM. Reason : .]

3/4/2016 9:51:10 PM

Quote :

"how many of those candidates up +100 have had ongoing fbi investigations?"

Yeah that's the elephant in the room. Who knows what will come of it. I don't think Bernie supporters should drop him because he's down almost 200 delegates, but I wish they would look at the numbers objectively. Claiming "too long, didn't read LOL" or "too long to fact check" seems, as goalielax has said, "willful ignorance" at best.

3/5/2016 11:19:27 AM

^
I just don't think its worth the time. He has a chance. Is it a good one? Prob not. We get it.

What purpose are you serving by linking that essay?

3/5/2016 11:24:28 AM

^^ I'm a Bernie supporter but I don't get the point of your insistence to "accept reality" or whatever narrative you're trying to push here, except to assume you want me to start backing Hillary prematurely for the general, but I'm curious why if that's it. If you're a Republican who would rather see Hillary, I say fuck off. If you're just trolling then also, fuck off. I can't imagine you're actually Democrats looking for a united front in the general here, so in general, fuck off.

[Edited on March 5, 2016 at 11:44 AM. Reason : Like I've said 736464 times, Bernie is *probably* done.]

[Edited on March 5, 2016 at 11:46 AM. Reason : ^ exactly ]

3/5/2016 11:44:07 AM

Nebraska is looking like a slaughter for Bernie.

Kansas will prob be similar.

Louisiana who knows, but a lot of people are working on GOTV over on Reddit.

3/5/2016 2:20:40 PM

If Maine goes the way of New Hampshire and Vermont, this could be a fantastic weekend overall. 25 delegates up for grabs, Bernie needs a 13-12 win to break even on the weekend. I could see it going as high as 15-10, but there hasn't been any major polling there so it's hard to predict.

3/6/2016 11:25:05 AM

He needs Michigan though and there is no way he gets it

3/6/2016 11:27:19 AM

i'll be ready to concede on the night of the 15th if gains aren't made then but things are trending in the right direction and ten days is a lot of time to make significant changes in the minds of voters. plus a full business week for things to come out of the server investigation.

Hillary still has not shown she can do well outside of the deep south.

3/6/2016 11:30:33 AM

He needs to come out strong on the attack in the debate tonight and the townhall on Monday. He needs to attack her directly.

3/6/2016 11:32:26 AM

Quote :

"Hillary has 60% of the vote so far, but only 20% of the vote has been cast. So really the score in the race to 51 is Hillary on top 12-8."

Hillary is now up 15-10. Still incredibly far from over.

3/6/2016 11:33:47 AM