okay fine, by all means, go on social media and announce to the world how liberal you are and how happy you are their retirements are being wiped out.

make sure to clarify who youre voting for and how badly you want to eat boomers. remember, they arent real people and they dont vote. young people have overwhelmingly decimated them at the polls recently.

[Edited on March 12, 2020 at 10:20 AM. Reason : yall just cant help yourselves. no concept of optics at all.]

3/12/2020 10:19:57 AM

how many people do you think are reading this thread?

3/12/2020 10:41:59 AM

Anyone about to retire shouldn't have their money in the stock market and anyone who isn't about to retire will be ok because the market will recover eventually. fuck all the people doing short term trading stealing peoples labor

Quote :

"Literally the first five words are an excuse and a lie and a direct Trump/Fox talking point."

You are misreading/mstinterpreting a lot of my posts and it makes sense because you are reading them expecting them to be coming from someone i'm not then changing the meaning to fit that person.

It was Trump's EU ban that no one saw coming.

The rest of the post was literally me explaining Trump's strategy/narrative which probably does come from foxnews. It wasn't me pushing those talking points. I even premised it with "this is the narrative" and then said "don't shoot the messenger".

When you do this it riles other people up like utowncha who probably skipped my post, read your post and now thinks I said all the things you just lied about. The irony is that it is you are doing the same type of thing Trump does then gaslighting me into being Earl.

Quote :

"Of course its bullshit"

I even put that in the post and you missed that part too

[Edited on March 12, 2020 at 10:56 AM. Reason : yikes]

3/12/2020 10:42:21 AM

and just like that i lost all will to post ITT

3/12/2020 10:52:06 AM

a person trump had close contact with trump on saturday has tested positive

3/12/2020 11:47:29 AM

Trump absolutely failed in this crisis. He downplayed it for too long. He also disbanded the pandemic response team.

3/12/2020 11:53:41 AM

#failwhale

3/12/2020 12:22:52 PM

*is failing* it is far from over or on the down side of the curve. He will have to have this front and center for weeks to come. Then face campaigning in the aftermath (hopefully).

3/12/2020 12:23:32 PM

He won't be able to rely on Fox News to paper over all the cancelled events and empty stadiums.

3/12/2020 12:33:35 PM

Or all the small businesses that are going to be fucked into shuttering.

3/12/2020 12:38:49 PM

The economy could quite literally just stall

3/12/2020 12:54:59 PM

Just wait till Trump suspends elections because of this

3/12/2020 2:12:06 PM

That guy to Trump's left? Yea, he positive.

3/12/2020 5:20:44 PM

^^ agreed. Prob some emergency powers act kinda crap or something will be his excuse

3/12/2020 5:23:43 PM

Bolsnaro also tested. They all had extensive contact with each other this weekend.

3/12/2020 5:27:19 PM

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/12/814881355/white-house-knew-coronavirus-would-be-a-major-threat-but-response-fell-short

NPR is reporting Trump pushed back on testing to try to keep the numbers low

3/12/2020 5:54:26 PM

this picture was taken last weekend, bolsonaro (right) has now tested positive for coronavirus


[Edited on March 13, 2020 at 10:44 AM. Reason : w]

3/13/2020 10:44:29 AM

Bolsanaro is a fascist so I guess karma is a bitch.

3/13/2020 11:31:31 AM

Are there any estimates on how many people have caught COVID from Trump?

3/13/2020 11:57:19 AM

He might be a superspreader.

3/13/2020 12:04:41 PM

Quote :

"There’s a Corona task force at the White House, but “the task force will not give Trump its final verdict until Jared Kushner, the president’s senior adviser and son-in-law, finishes his research and comes to a conclusion himself,” per @anitakumar01"

...and that research consisted of asking Facebook.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/13/jared-kushner-combat-coronavirus-facebook-127941

3/13/2020 12:35:18 PM

Quote :

"bolsonaro (right) has now tested positive for coronavirus"

praise the Lord!

Quote :

"this picture was taken last weekend"

lettuce pray....

3/13/2020 12:35:54 PM

That schadenfreude is going to turn around and bite you in the ass.

3/13/2020 1:12:33 PM

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/815363362/fact-check-trumps-accusations-about-the-obama-administration-and-swine-flu

Quote :

"President Trump, widely criticized for his administration's response to the coronavirus pandemic, tried to shift blame Friday to his predecessor's handling of a health crisis 11 years ago. In a series of tweets, Trump accused former President Barack Obama of making unspecified changes that "complicated" the Centers For Disease Control and Prevention's testing system. Trump falsely charged the Obama administration's response to the H1N1 swine flu outbreak as a "full scale disaster, with thousands dying, and nothing meaningful done to fix the testing problem, until now." .... Their response to H1N1 Swine Flu was a full scale disaster, with thousands dying, and nothing meaningful done to fix the testing problem, until now. The changes have been made and testing will soon happen on a very large scale basis. All Red Tape has been cut, ready to go! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 13, 2020 Trump has on numerous occasions accused the Obama administration of implementing a rule change that complicated testing. However, no such rule was ever put in place, according to FactCheck.org. Coronavirus testing has been a key point of criticism of the Trump administration, with testing only becoming widespread in the U.S. this week, and kits remain in limited supply. WATCH: Trump To Discuss Coronavirus Amid Growing Crisis, Scrutiny Of His Response The Coronavirus Crisis Trump To Discuss Coronavirus Amid Growing Crisis, Scrutiny Of His Response Trump announced Friday in a tweet that "testing will soon happen on a very large scale basis. All Red Tape has been cut, ready to go!" He appeared to be referring to an announcement that the Department of Health and Human Services has awarded grants to two companies developing tests that can show results in under an hour. These tests, however, won't be available for about six to 12 weeks. The administration also appointed a federal coordinator to oversee testing. States Begin Widespread School Closures To Fight Coronavirus The Coronavirus Crisis States Begin Widespread School Closures To Fight Coronavirus Negotiations Wear On Over Coronavirus Relief Bill, Republicans Await Trump's Support Politics Negotiations Wear On Over Coronavirus Relief Bill, Republicans Await Trump's Support According to a CDC estimate, there were more than 60 million swine flu cases reported in the U.S. between April 2009 — when the disease was first detected in California — and April 2010, with more than 12,000 people dying. The agency said the first case was reported on April 15, 2009, and the government declared H1N1 a public health emergency on the April 26. The first test to detect the new virus was approved by the FDA two days later. The Trump campaign on Friday also lashed out at former Vice President Joe Biden, Trump's potential opponent in the 2020 election, accusing him of showing "terrible judgment and incompetence in the face of public health issues." The campaign may have been referring to remarks Biden made in April 2009, when he said on NBC's Today show, "I wouldn't go anywhere in confined places now." His comments appeared out of line with official recommendations at the time. "

3/13/2020 2:45:56 PM

Quote :

"That schadenfreude is going to turn around and bite you in the ass."

As I've tried to explain to him, the United States will burn the fucking world down before they go "alone" quietly in the night.

[Edited on March 13, 2020 at 3:02 PM. Reason : +]

3/13/2020 3:00:25 PM

^ that is true, but you really don't think what i pray for has any effect on that, do you?

^^^ how so? my wishing or praying for something will have no effect on whether he has it or not and what he will do (and whether that will affect me) if he does have it.


i hope you seriously don't believe in medieval witchcraft and voodoo?

3/13/2020 3:19:04 PM

Quote :

"I don't take responsibility at all."

-- President Donald J. Trump

3/13/2020 6:19:05 PM

Trump's probably infecting all of these CEOs and old experts on the task force. Wouldn't be surprised if the entire administration is + within a week.

3/13/2020 8:26:24 PM

Quote :

" Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible. 2:01 PM · Nov 8, 2013"

-- also Donald Trump

and among other lies and deceptions, the website they kept going on about today:
https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-donald-trump-google-website


[Edited on March 13, 2020 at 10:21 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on March 13, 2020 at 10:22 PM. Reason : ]

3/13/2020 10:20:37 PM

^^i agree. But he is doing it purposely to prove a point

3/13/2020 10:22:16 PM

Multiple people who were at maralago are now positive, and multiple people who recently visited trump family and admin members are also positive

Theres no way people in the White House arent infected

3/14/2020 8:31:37 AM

What does it say about a country where the leader can tell so many such plainly obvious and dangerous lies, and so openly on TV, but not get in trouble for them? This is just so bizarre and shocking to me, that he can make such dangerous and irresponsible statements -- which are lies first and foremost -- and not have to face any consequences.

https://twitter.com/TeamPelosi/status/1238336832665980928

inb4thewelcometolast4years (this is different)

3/14/2020 10:35:34 AM

It APPEARS he is beginning to take it more seriously, which is a good thing.

That said, his entire administration is incompetent so god help us.

^ I mean, it’s who he always has been. Everyone from the tri-State area has know this since the 80s. If you really want to blame some for mainstreaming a failed businessman like him it’s Mark Burnett. I hope he is ashamed.

[Edited on March 14, 2020 at 11:41 AM. Reason : X]

3/14/2020 11:39:49 AM

I saw people posting his speech saying “this isn’t a political issue, the president is right. we have to do something.”

And I was like... all these points of reference to this issue... all these better sources and organizations to help galvanize... and you’re still holding up this guy as your leader.

I was also still surprised that I hadn’t blocked all of these people by now.

3/14/2020 12:44:26 PM

His press conference yesterday was about two weeks too late. On February 26th, the CDC confirmed community spread. Thats when we should have been where we got yesterday.

3/14/2020 1:52:04 PM

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/europe/andrii-telizhenko-ukraine-biden-giuliani-intl/index.html

I guess the Biden investigation is being put on hold because it keeps incriminating Trump and his traitor friends rather than Biden...

Quote :

"London (CNN)When Republican lawmakers this week abruptly canceled a plan to subpoena a former Ukrainian official in their investigations into the energy firm that hired former Vice President Joe Biden's son, they said it was to allow more time for senators to receive additional briefings. But a Ukrainian magazine editor has told CNN that the target of the subpoena, Andrii Telizhenko, once offered him money to lobby US senators on behalf of pro-Russian media outlets. A former Ukrainian diplomat, Telizhenko is an ally of Trump's personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, and has been an enthusiastic proponent of the debunked theory that Ukraine, and not Russia, interfered in the 2016 US elections. Telizhenko has also backed Republican claims that Trump's Democratic rival, Joe Biden, shut down an investigation into the Ukrainian gas company Burisma when his son, Hunter, served on its board. Biden has consistently denied any wrongdoing. The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee called off a vote to subpoena Telizhenko earlier this week, amid accusations from Democrats that the investigation was calculated to damage Biden's presidential bid."

3/14/2020 2:14:34 PM

Lol, Ronna McDaniel is sick and being tested. I hope she’s ok but she was with Trump and Bolsonaro obviously.

Mar-A-Lago is definitely ground zero for COVID-19 in America.

In all honesty, it’s pretty irresponsible for the president to not be quarantined.

[Edited on March 14, 2020 at 4:45 PM. Reason : Pence too]

3/14/2020 4:44:22 PM

https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/1238939582168739842?s=21

Jesus, shut it down and quarantine all of them. It’s so utterly irresponsible to not.

3/14/2020 5:36:56 PM

I doubt that its unlike many places all over the country. The difference is that a higher concentration of high-profile individuals more likely to have access to the rarely available tests have been there.

We need to quarantine the entire country. Remmber that some Ohio experts estimate that they have 100,000 cases in the State.

3/14/2020 6:22:15 PM

^the followon affects of something like that are really quite substanital

3/14/2020 6:44:45 PM

Breaking: The teflon don tests negative for COVID-19

3/14/2020 7:25:20 PM

he'll be insufferable, as usual, about how strong his health is and that's why he isn't infected

on the other hand i'd prefer he didn't get a chance to die as some twisted version of a martyr

[Edited on March 15, 2020 at 8:34 AM. Reason : ]

3/15/2020 8:33:23 AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/HayesBrown/status/1239014549686288384

3/15/2020 9:19:11 AM

Do you think they would really tell us if he had tested positive?

I also saw some far left wing (Jimmy Dore type) tweets putting forth the conspiracy theory that a vaccine already exists and Trump has it

[Edited on March 15, 2020 at 10:06 AM. Reason : $$$]

3/15/2020 9:58:48 AM

This is awesome. Everybody watch this:

https://twitter.com/MaddowBlog/status/1238279302468288512

Unfortunately, Western countries don't know how to deal with a highly contagious novel epidemic, since they haven't faced one in the recent past (other than flu variants). China and other countries in the region know because they suffered under SARS and learned lessons.

3/15/2020 10:45:36 AM

Yea, China learned its lessons so well they still spent the first half of this outbreak lying about it and are continuing to push for "traditional chinese medicine" as a solution. I.e., go dry out some mushrooms and boil it in water and you'll be cured....

3/15/2020 11:09:51 AM

Always finds a way to go lower:

Quote :

"Welt am Sonntag also quoted an unidentified German government source as saying Trump was trying to secure the scientists' work exclusively, and would do anything to get a vaccine for the United States, "but only for the United States.""

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/germany-tries-stop-trump-luring-away-firm-working-coronavirus-vaccine-n1159426

(anonymous sources caveats)

3/15/2020 1:38:28 PM

^^ look at Taiwan and how they responded, and it becomes painfully obvious that transparency and having a dedicated response team was the way to go...

What really pisses me off is that half the country still doesn't think this is a big deal. Yeah, we're not all gonna drop dead at once, but shit's gonna be bad. Maybe worse than Italy/Spain bad.

3/15/2020 3:54:44 PM

Trump is going to pardon Flynn, because coronavirus

3/15/2020 4:10:06 PM

Quote :

"Yea, China learned its lessons so well they still spent the first half of this outbreak lying about it and are continuing to push for "traditional chinese medicine" as a solution. I.e., go dry out some mushrooms and boil it in water and you'll be cured...."

They lied about it/hid it for a month, as opposed to lying/hiding for 4 months with SARS. Definitely an improvement, wouldn't you say?

I haven't seen anything in the news about the Chinese government pushing TCM as a cure, at least nothing in international MSM.

3/15/2020 4:21:37 PM