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thegoodlife3
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there's no such thing as an ACC Regular Season Championship

4/14/2017 1:46:55 PM

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ACC men's regular season first-place finisher, if you prefer.

4/14/2017 2:22:52 PM

dmspack
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contract details

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/nc-state/state-now/article146014954.html

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"Keatts’ annual compensation will be $2.2 million and breaks down to an even split of $1.1 million by base salary and supplemental income (from media and athletic apparel deals). With bonuses, Keatts made about $600,000 last season at UNC-Wilmington.

A trip to the NCAA tournament in any of Keatts’ first three seasons would trigger an automatic one-year extension to his contract and an extra $125,000 in bonuses.

Details for some of the bonuses and extensions in Keatts’ deal, which covers six seasons and runs through April 2023:

Supplemental income increase

$100,000 with an NCAA tournament appearance

$200,000 with a Sweet 16 appearance

$300,000 with an ACC regular-season title (as determined by the No. 1 seed in the ACC tournament)

$300,000 with an ACC title

$400,000 with a trip to the Final Four

$500,000 with an NCAA title

Additional bonus

$10,000 reaching the First Four of the NCAA tournament

$25,000 reaching the first round of the NCAA tournament

$50,000 being ranked in the top 25 in final AP or USA Today polls

$50,000 reaching the second round of the NCAA tournament

$100,000 reaching the Sweet 16 of the NCAA tournament

$100,000 being ranked in the top 10 in final AP or USA Today polls

$100,000 winning the ACC regular-season title (as determined by the No. 1 seed in the ACC tournament)

$100,000 winning the ACC title

$150,000 reaching the Final Eight of the NCAA tournament

$200,000 reaching the Final Four of the NCAA tournament

$250,000 reaching the championship game of the NCAA tournament

$400,000 winning the NCAA championship

The NCAA tournament bonuses are not cumulative. That means a trip to the Sweet 16 is worth $100,000, not $100,000 plus the First Four and First round bonuses.

The contract includes several academic-performance bonuses:

Federal Graduation Rate (FGR)

70 to 79 percent: $25,000

80 to 89 percent: $50,000

90 to 99 percent: $75,000

100 percent: $100,000

Graduate Success Rate (GSR)

70 to 79 percent: $25,000

80 to 89 percent: $50,000

90 to 99 percent: $75,000

100 percent: $100,000

Academic Progress Rate (APR)

970 to 979: $25,000

980 to 989: $50,000

990 to 999: $75,000

1,000: $100,000

N.C. State’s most recent academic scores were FGR (38), GSR (71) and APR (966).

Automatic contract extensions

One year:

? if N.C. State makes the NCAA tournament in 2018, 2019, 2020

? if N.C. State makes the Sweet 16 in 2021, 2022 or 2023

Two years:

? if N.C. State goes to the Final Four

? if N.C. State wins the ACC regular-season title

? if N.C. State wins the ACC tournament
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sorry for the llong copy and paste job, but fuck y'all get over it.

4/22/2017 5:40:40 AM

ssclark
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No one cares about the long copy. It's the wide copy that's the devil

4/22/2017 9:00:19 AM

dmspack
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nothing worse than the wide copy

4/22/2017 12:40:36 PM

Zel
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^yep, long copy all you want, just don't fucking make me scroll sideways

4/22/2017 7:24:47 PM

sag1804
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A score of 38?! Wtf is that right?

4/24/2017 2:14:40 AM

justinh524
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Probably, since FGR penalizes schools for transfers.

4/24/2017 4:07:56 AM

ssclark
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Yah I'm psure FGR is people who start vs people who graduate period with no stipulation

4/24/2017 6:23:43 AM

justinh524
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Yes. It only takes into account people who start as freshmen and graduate from your school within 6 years. Transfers out count as not graduating and transfers in who graduate don't count. So all those transfers out are why that number is so bad.

4/24/2017 8:45:04 AM

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Why would we ever think we can compete with UNC?? I mean they had Michael Jordan and D. Thompson is so over-rated..

4/24/2017 6:11:11 PM

dmspack
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Has anybody ever said David Thompson is overrated?

4/24/2017 6:33:15 PM

BlackDog
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^ ESPN

http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2017/4/22/15392392/scandal-watch-sankey-refuses-to-step-aside-ncaa-sets-target-dates-for-unc-hearings-acc-basketball

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"New State coach Kevin Keatts, a former Rick Pitino assistant, was cleared of any involvement in the escort scandal, which must make the folks in Raleigh happy since they’re paying him well. "

4/24/2017 6:41:49 PM

dmspack
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ESPN called him overrated? Where and what was the context?

4/24/2017 7:05:40 PM

sag1804
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No one has.Don't fall for the bait.

4/25/2017 1:24:14 AM

dmspack
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^yeah that's what i figured. plenty of media has made jokes and taken shots at state that we don't need to make anything up

4/25/2017 6:51:36 AM

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I read a tid-bit on here a couple weeks ago about a KK practice in which he asked the assistants to put trashcans out if the guys had to yak. I heard the rest of the story today. Apparently 2 players were late to a practice b/c the golf cart that carries them from the dorm to the practice facility was late. I am assuming this is still like a 3 minute walk like it was when I was there, which makes that even crazier.

The golf cart was never seen or heard from again.

4/26/2017 2:35:06 PM

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http://www.wralsportsfan.com/nc-state-s-keatts-building-for-long-haul-with-wolfpack/16666004/

4/26/2017 3:03:37 PM

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"the biggest thing is getting those guys to learn how to compete"

-KK

They sound lazy and unmotivated.

4/26/2017 3:27:11 PM

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^hold on im trying to find a good "fake shock" meme

Eh this will work


[Edited on April 26, 2017 at 4:53 PM. Reason : Pic]

4/26/2017 4:51:09 PM

ssclark
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DD said the same shit about football when he took over for TOB and TOB said the same shit about amato ... not exactly a ground breaking revelation.

4/26/2017 5:23:23 PM

Bullet
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I believe they refer to that as "Coach-Talk". It's a way that coaches talk.

4/26/2017 5:29:16 PM

dmspack
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yup. every new coach will tell you every thing you want to hear about the previous coaching staff. every fired coaching staff had poor S&C, team lacked chemistry, they didn't "buy in", etc....the new coaching staff always says they're gonna whip the fellas into shape and get them to play for the name on the front of the jersey. it's the same coach-speak every time.

not saying that none of it is ever true. of course there's truth to it...Gott was fired for obvious reasons and it's clear that the players seemed pretty poorly motivated and didn't play that hard. but it's also just shit new coaches say because they know the fans wanna hear it. you don't wanna hear about all the good things the players learned and did from Gott...you wanna hear what they didn't learn and didn't do.

4/26/2017 5:41:43 PM

BJCaudill21
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I did believe it when they said it about sid though.

4/26/2017 5:41:56 PM

dmspack
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i think there's probably plenty of truth to it most times. new coach is likely taking over a pretty shitty team. you wanna change the culture and make your stamp on things...so yeah, the new coach is probably gonna make some big changes and do things a lot differently than the previous coach. but you should also definitely always take it with a grain of salt.

the worst for this is when they change S&C coaches. the old S&C coach was always doing outdated shit on outdated equipment with no guidance and the players ate candy for every meal....and the new S&C coach is doing everything cutting edge and meticulously planning individual workouts and diets for each player. that's always the spin when a new S&C coach gets hired.

4/26/2017 5:51:48 PM

ssclark
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^^^^ Exactly

4/27/2017 6:24:03 AM

BlackDog
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"ESPN called him overrated? Where and what was the context?"


I never said they literally called him "overrated", I am saying they implied it when they did this list (and the one 5 years prior).

4/28/2017 11:00:58 AM

justinh524
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i don't see how naming him the 8th greatest college player of all time (and #1 in the ACC) is implying he is overrated.

4/28/2017 11:59:42 AM

rwoody
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He's even ahead of Jordan, the guy you used for the comparison, lol

4/28/2017 12:07:06 PM

dmspack
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so just to be clear, nobody or no publication said he was overrated, nor was it implied. ESPN ranked him as the 8th best player of all-time. and while that's arguable, it's a clear sign of respect and admiration for his skills. sorry, i can't get mad that some people think Bill Russell, Pete Maravich, Jerry West, Lew Alcindor, etc were better than him. it's a subjective ranking, and basically everybody agrees that DT is top 10 at worst...there's no implication of him being "over-rated" here. you're wasting your time getting upset about this list from 10 years ago. furthermore, your comment: "Why would we ever think we can compete with UNC?? I mean they had Michael Jordan and D. Thompson is so over-rated" doesn't even make sense. MJ vs DT has nothing to do with why people think we shouldn't expect to compete on the same level with UNC.

4/28/2017 1:02:04 PM

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http://www.nsjonline.com/article/2017/05/nc-states-kevin-keatts-is-ready-for-the-moment

really good article on C2K

5/19/2017 4:09:31 PM

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Quote :
"“It’s a different situation, different time for this program,” Keatts said. “But I am confident that when we start to implement our system and get some of our own guys in we will be successful."

5/19/2017 5:55:59 PM

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Pretty good article but random that Painter is hanging around.

5/20/2017 8:27:59 PM

justinh524
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Not really. Tons of former players practice at Dail.

[Edited on May 20, 2017 at 8:59 PM. Reason : And he didn't leave on bad terms.]

5/20/2017 8:59:10 PM

rwoody
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Looks like Hargrave Coach AW Hamilton will be final assistant

6/7/2017 5:50:43 PM

dmspack
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Probably waited to hire him because of the dead period that ended a week or two ago, right? That way he could still communicate with recruits.

6/7/2017 6:34:41 PM

hey now
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IBTJEREMYHYATT

6/7/2017 6:41:00 PM

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