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Grandmaster
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^If you have not played it then don't listen to that subreddit. It's FULL of salt. I only cancelled my preorder because I poopsocked D2 on PS4... did the beta on all three classes (intro x3) then when launch came out I did entire story on all 3 classes and power leveled them. Then when PC beta came out I did the Intros again and when the raid came out on ps4 I did it every week on multiple classes so now it's just like what else is there?

If PC was going to be your first experience with D2 you will still have fun. If you never played D1 and you just enjoy the game then you will have fun. I don't want a refund or anything I just don't want to give more $$ for another console just to do it all over again.

I *always* have fun raiding with bros I just wish it was more rewarding.

Bungo's panel announcing what they have planned for seasons starts in 5.

https://www.twitchcon.com/locations/coolcat-theater/

[Edited on October 20, 2017 at 7:25 PM. Reason : ]

10/20/2017 7:19:31 PM

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My kingdom for a group of 6 fucking people that know what thr fuck theyre doing at the calus checkpoint. Motherfuck!!!! 3 days, about 20 different groups and theres always one or 2 dumb motherfuckers that cant get right. Same motherfucker kept dying in one game tonight. Every damn time we would get close, this cocksucker would die. "Wtf killed me, oh what the fuck" how about you stop sucking cock!

10/22/2017 11:55:08 PM

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So I feel like the potential of vanilla D2>>>>>>D1, but the current execution of the game is struggling because they failed to keep what was good about D1 and build on top. I think we got more reboot than we really wanted.

That being said, as the player pool dwindles down to the hardcore players with each successive DLC, I hope they shift the focus away from the casual player towards the heavy consumers of the game.

It is obvious that vanilla D2 is catering towards casual players that have no intention of collecting every gun and weapon set. They do not care about collecting hidden items such as grimoire or dead ghosts. They won't play a strike 10 times to get a god roll. That is why all these things are gone. In fact they even eliminated vendor rep levels in-game. It is hard to see the meter of effort and success rise and that is basically because the vast majority of gamers are casual and do not intend to ever go for 100% completion. That is a problem because there is now precious little to fill in the down time once you complete the reset events.

There is hope that they can reintroduce meaningful collectibles back into the game. I guess it remains to be seen what they will do.

I suggest

1. Fix the Vaults - separate tab for weapons and armor. Sort alphabetically. Explore having a separate tab for each Armor Set where you can store a primary set and a few spares in case you want to mess with arc/void/solar alternate builds. This would encourage extra play to complete sets and also create personal showcases.

2. Mods - To me rare mods are pointless and take up a stupid amount of inventory space. Replace rare mods with legendary mod shards that can be earned and bundled together to get a random mod for one price and a specific legendary mod for a higher price.

3. Put Grimoire score back in game. Put the card system in the game too so you can see what you are missing and try to fill in the gaps.

4. Shaders - WTF! There are not enough inventory slots to have 1 stack of every shader and by the time you figure that out you have stacks so big it takes an hour to delete enough to get your new ones in the inventory and out of postmaster. Also the cost to apply shaders is stupid idea and stupid high glimmer cost.

5. Nightfall - I am not enjoying that every Nightfall is time-capped. It would be ok if a time cap was in the rotation of modifiers, but I don't like being rushed to the point I am skipping over enemy encounters in a shooter game every week.

6. Subclasses - The ability trees seem kind of skimpy. i would like to see the dodge rift and barricade be an option that is available to all 3 classes. So a hunter has both dodge choices and one choice of rift and on choice of barricade. Titan gets both barricades and one rift and one dodge to choose from and so on.

more ideas but tired of typing

10/23/2017 1:01:33 PM

V0LC0M
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I completely agree with everything you suggested.

10/25/2017 11:06:00 AM

V0LC0M
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new dlc content announced

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBJiuQg-j-A

Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBxdo2NzSZ0

[Edited on November 1, 2017 at 11:37 AM. Reason : .]

11/1/2017 11:37:14 AM

wolfpack2105
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Paid dlc 3 months after release?

Lol, fuckin laughable. This game has zero end game content. Once you are at 305, theres basically zero reason to play. No perk rolls on weapons? Fuckin dumb. I have every weapon in the game.

11/1/2017 1:02:08 PM

Grandmaster
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Friendship Raids of course^

I've moved back to Warframe until HZD DLC drops. It does look like the Live team for D2 is taking over and promising some changes. We went back and did the raid again last week to practice some prestige strats and to get the PC guys in our clan the rewards. It wasn't terrible but it definitely didn't seem rewarding even though I got the handcannon I'll never use because I'm not on PC.

11/1/2017 1:12:19 PM

laxman490
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to be fair, it was no surprise that there was 2 dlc packs after release. 3 months isn't really that short in today's world.

so far i am having fun with the grind on pc, probably because everything i get is helping me level up. i am around 230 right now. i am concerned that battlenet is going to make it hard to LFG and about the endgame, but i dont really play games like it did destiny 1...amazing what 3 years can do.

11/1/2017 1:37:30 PM

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any aim bots for this?

I hate first person shooters but aim bots make it tolerable.

11/1/2017 1:59:03 PM

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it's called using a controller on the pc

11/1/2017 2:13:01 PM

Jrb599
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Still need to do the raid - how do people like it compared to other raids?

11/2/2017 6:24:52 AM

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Less combat focused, lots of mechanics. I guess it depends on what you like.

The environment is nicely designed though.

11/2/2017 8:20:31 AM

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How many are playing on PC round here? I've gotten sucked in via peer pressure from a co-worker and would rather do strikes or nightfall with people I know more or less than complete randoms.

11/2/2017 4:17:39 PM

Novicane
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im downloading now for PC. Will start messing with it this weekend.

11/3/2017 4:32:06 AM

V0LC0M
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"Still need to do the raid - how do people like it compared to other raids?"


- Incredibly huge level
- Beautiful environment
- Less combat focused
- Requires a LOT of team coordination
- Incredibly frustrating in sections.

I'd rank it close to last compared to the other raids. I wasn't a huge fan of the Wrath of the Machine raid.

11/3/2017 11:09:13 AM

laxman490
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i am on pc as well. maybe we can start a pc clan so we can get some of those free rewards.

11/3/2017 1:35:06 PM

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Make it happen!

anyone running PC you can add me: Exodus06#1117

11/3/2017 7:54:58 PM

Novicane
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Sysop#1149

11/4/2017 4:15:59 AM

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hopdrop23#1178

11/5/2017 3:27:38 PM

V0LC0M
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This worked like a champ last night. Thought I'd share!

https://www.polygon.com/2017/11/7/16618342/destiny-2-faction-rally-token-farming-exploit-lost-sector

11/8/2017 12:21:48 PM

wolfpack2105
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Whats the point of this faction rally? To get reskinned weapons that we already have?

11/8/2017 6:29:07 PM

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Came here to post ^^
I got 120 engrams before calling it quits after about 35 minutes.

11/9/2017 10:02:09 AM

V0LC0M
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Quote :
"Whats the point of this faction rally? To get reskinned weapons that we already have?"


Dead Orbit has a very unique machine gun. FWC has a Scout Rifle that has most of the same perks as Mida Multi Tool but with Origin Story's rampage perk. Point is, there are a lot of good weapons to get from the factions.

New to this Faction Run - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6FwoxwWlLw
Previous Run - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_gCPLRhVjw


[Edited on November 10, 2017 at 12:59 PM. Reason : some from the previous run are still available]

11/10/2017 12:57:51 PM

wolfpack2105
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Theres nothing worse than doing events/raids with random LFG groups

11/20/2017 10:26:01 PM

laxman490
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i was the biggest destiny apologist, but this game sucks ass. the new expansion has a unremarkable story and pushes more into the loot boxes.

there is no gun skill since now you have two primary weapons. in D1 i could practice sniping and actually get better. now i just switch between two different auto rifles and hold down shoot to melt bosses. it is just not fun.

12/7/2017 3:30:57 PM

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^I didn't buy DLC. Couldn't see spending $30 more 3 months after i spent $60. There were issues I had with the game.

1. The vault took a step back. Its a fucking mess.
2. As you said, they nerfed the guns/armor. Allowing you to have primary weapons as secondary weapons is...dumb. The sniper is utterly useless now. NO ONE uses it. None of the bosses are made to where using a sniper is useful. There are no ammo boxes you can buy and use like in Destiny 1 so if you are fighting a boss and run out of heavy, thats it.
3. The fact that you can't have different perks on weapons/armor is STUPID. Theres no reason to grind. And a big part of an RPG/MMO is grinding for the best gear. I had like 4 copies of each weapon/piece of armor and none of them were different. Stupid.
4. The raid was meh. I beat it once with two different groups of randoms. Unless you have a team of 6 that you know that are good at the game, its just not worth the time sink. Spending 30 minutes to find a group only to find out that theres a 40 year old idiot and a 13 year old puber in the group who keep your group from continuuing on is....shit.
5. Nerfed the Trials and iron banner by going to the token route where you can't choose what you want to buy. If i spent 18 hours in the iron banner, i want to be able to use my tokens to buy the piece of equipment i want. I dont' want to have to wade through more RNG. You could spend 40 hours and not get the piece of armor you want. Fuck that.

Honestly, i could go on and on about whats wrong with the game but I don't care to.

They took all the good that destiny 1 had and made it shittier and then added in a bunch of new stuff that wasn't as good and seemed lazy. Destiny 1 was a very, very, very good game who kept my attention for a year. Destiny 2 has lost me within 3 months.

[Edited on December 7, 2017 at 10:56 PM. Reason : sdf]

12/7/2017 10:55:36 PM

Grandmaster
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FYI The salt was justified. I haven't logged on in 3-4 weeks since I started playing Warframe again. Not even for the DLC which I foolishly pre-purchased with season pass. Fuck Bungie especially after reading that they re-locked the raid and nightfall behind the DLC? Shame on them.

12/9/2017 5:39:28 PM

Azaka
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Only the prestige versions, but still...

12/11/2017 4:02:49 PM

Wolfmarsh
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I think I'm in the minority that is having a good time with D2.

I'm a very casual player, and I only really play co-op with a friend. We did the storylines and missions together and now we do strikes. Sometimes I feel bad for the third player that gets paired with us. We goof off and don't get upset if we die.

We play maybe 4-5 hours per week and don't really care that much about maximizing our gear score or the leviathan raid.

12/11/2017 4:12:54 PM

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^ Pretty much right with you there. I'm enjoying well enough and I like that it doesn't just destroy you if you want to goof off a bit. Having a few friends is good but i haven't felt worse off when they aren't on.

We've really had some fun with the heroic strikes/nightfalls and raid even with multiple attempts.

It is really an impossible balancing act to cater to casual players and hardcore players in a single game like this though. Eventually they will have to choose just like countless other games have done.

[Edited on December 11, 2017 at 5:11 PM. Reason : .]

12/11/2017 5:08:46 PM

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So a new DLC came out a couple weeks ago. Anyone playing?

5/29/2018 2:46:08 PM

V0LC0M
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy1KWyDDM2U

WOW

8/28/2018 12:17:28 PM

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"i was the biggest destiny apologist, but this game sucks ass. the new expansion has a unremarkable story and pushes more into the loot boxes.

there is no gun skill since now you have two primary weapons. in D1 i could practice sniping and actually get better. now i just switch between two different auto rifles and hold down shoot to melt bosses. it is just not fun."


i said this in december. i also currently have forsaken preordered and been playing 2.0 nonstop. damn you bungie.

9/3/2018 8:49:29 PM

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Anyone been playin this today? Been watchin a guy stream it...seems they brought some things back that i complained about them taking out earlier in this thread. I dig the additions

9/5/2018 5:14:09 PM

V0LC0M
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Forsaken is absolutely fantastic. Taken King level IMO.

9/12/2018 3:32:47 PM

wolfpack2105
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Anyone not have an xbox 1x and having issues with load times? I reinstalled it the other day and i have an original xbox 1 and a 1s and the load times just seem to be outrageous. It takes forever for the game to load up, im usually flying in orbit for 2 minutes before reaching the place i wanna go. My character takes like 30 seconds before rendering in the inventory screen. Takes like 10-15 seconds for weapons/gear to render when i select them.

Anyone else not using a 1x seeing this?

9/13/2018 10:08:59 AM

laxman490
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yeah forsaken is fantastic

9/13/2018 11:20:28 AM

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what's new since launch? i might pick it up again.

9/13/2018 12:45:10 PM

V0LC0M
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Too much to summarize



[Edited on September 24, 2018 at 9:48 AM. Reason : https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/19/destiny-2-forsaken-review]

9/24/2018 9:48:23 AM

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I thought pvp in the Crucible was perfect in Destiny 1. Destiny 2 Crucible continues to be a train wreck. Fucking shotguns, man.

Everything else is great since the update.



[Edited on September 24, 2018 at 12:11 PM. Reason : a]

9/24/2018 12:10:18 PM

V0LC0M
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Agreed. I wish they would separate PVE and PVP completely. There is no reason why they should continuing breaking PVE in order to get PVP right and vice versa. Shit drives me insane.

9/24/2018 4:23:36 PM

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I finally gave up. I honestly thought year 1 was the best concept of destiny.

Iron banner meant something and could be dominated as a team or suffered as a solo for end game loot. The loot was unique as being re-rollable. Raid gear made nightfalls with a certain burn a delightful cake walk.

the general pvp balance was always a little fucked but atleast the meta rotated every 1-3 months so it wasn't just the same boring shit for a year straight...

honestly the new DLC looks great but i know i'll burn through it and then be bored again in a week.

goddamn i wish this game didn't suck... i really wish...

9/24/2018 9:05:20 PM

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"continuing breaking PVE in order to get PVP right and vice versa. Shit drives me insane."


What you mean by this? I need talking points to sound smart with my clan.

[Edited on September 24, 2018 at 11:17 PM. Reason : f]

9/24/2018 11:16:21 PM

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they broke scout rifles, but i can't imagine they were used heavily in pvp (i avoid crucible as much as possible)

9/25/2018 7:46:15 AM

sumfoo1
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Mida was meta for a while.

9/25/2018 8:47:46 AM

V0LC0M
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"What you mean by this? I need talking points to sound smart with my clan"


The entire weapon system was changed for Destiny 2 in order to "balance" PVP. Shotguns, snipers, and fusion rifles (all previously secondary weapons) were moved to the power weapon slots. All this accomplished is that people totally abandoned these weapons in PVE because if you have to choose between those 3 and a rocket launcher, you obviously choose the rocket launcher. They received so much backlash on this that they had to completely redo it for Forsaken. Now they've got weapons all over the place. Shotguns and Snipers can be primary or secondary, etc. I don't know all the shifts because frankly, they changed for individual weapons instead of weapon classes. It's a little better but is still a mess compared to D1. I won't even go into nerfing weapons like Mida (which is still badass).

Quote :
"Iron banner meant something and could be dominated as a team or suffered as a solo for end game loot."


[Edited on September 25, 2018 at 2:49 PM. Reason : The new iron banner weapons are all VERY good IMO. Especially the pulse rifle and rocket launcher]


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"honestly the new DLC looks great but i know i'll burn through it"


HAHA no you won't. Bungie made sure of that. The grind is real again.


[Edited on September 25, 2018 at 2:50 PM. Reason : .]

9/25/2018 2:46:58 PM

sumfoo1
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OK slowing down the game because you didn't make enough content is not the same as making a game deep enough to not get bored.

9/26/2018 8:20:51 AM

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^you obviously know nothing about forsaken.

9/26/2018 11:49:57 AM

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correct

9/26/2018 8:29:58 PM

Exiled
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I should stop reading this thread, it's giving me Destiny pangs.

9/27/2018 8:19:33 AM

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