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The Coz
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0EPII1 lives over there somewhere.

I read the BBC World News daily. There's quite a bit more reporting on China's hijinks in Hong Kong and elsewhere than you get in the US press. I don't claim to be an authority, but I don't get why this guy (daaave) is such a China apologist (except for trolling).

4/21/2021 5:38:20 PM

UJustWait84
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"(I'm not taking a side here, but just because you've visited a place doesn't mean you know more about that place than someone who hasn't visited)"


He's just posting CCP talking points and acting like he has some intimate knowledge of the culture when it's clear he has no idea what he's talking about. Anecdotally, having visited parts of East/SE Asia myself, one's ability to use the internet like WE normally can, let alone social media, is definitely not like the US or Europe where it's a relative free-for-all and your smart phone is basically the same thing as a laptop/pc/computer.

Is China/HK a complete police state where the 'thought police' are going to get you? Well, of course not. But you can't just browse/post the same way that you can here and it's noticeable from pretty much the moment you step off the plane and start using your smartphone.


[Edited on April 21, 2021 at 5:41 PM. Reason : I'm not calling myself an expert on China/HK/Taiwain; I'm just saying he's full of shit]

4/21/2021 5:38:32 PM

rwoody
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He's also posting published academic papers

4/21/2021 5:45:44 PM

UJustWait84
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^Ones that are flawed for the very reasons the Coz pointed out.

Plenty of American academic studies are flawed/debunked btw, and there's been a huge backlash against the peer review process in general because so much of it has to do with money/politics and not actual facts/research.

But hey, don't take my word for it, take his instead.

FWIW I consider myself to be fairly neutral on China and their government/policies, and that comes from having visited and interacted with people who have opposing views. I worry a lot more about Russia, but I also married someone born in the former USSR, so clearly I have my own biases.

But it's 100% bs that people in China/HK can openly criticize their government like the way we can in the US.

[Edited on April 21, 2021 at 5:52 PM. Reason : .]

4/21/2021 5:50:46 PM

rwoody
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"your data is bad for my opinion based reasons, therefore my zero data is better"

4/21/2021 6:42:06 PM

The Coz
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Now you're getting it!

But I can also Google some hundred-page research papers on Chinese censorship if it will impress you.

4/21/2021 7:29:54 PM

rwoody
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I got no dog in the fight I'm feuding with UJW acting like visiting a county is some Trump card, at least Dave is attempting to put forth more than opinion

4/21/2021 7:58:10 PM

TreeTwista10
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if only there were someone who still posts on this site that was born and raised in China

4/21/2021 8:28:02 PM

UJustWait84
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^^ I just asked a very simple question (one which he refused to answer, because it would diminish his ethos) because he clearly sounds ignorant about what life is actually like in China/HK/Taiwan. I'm hardly alone in calling out the sheer stupidity of his claim that people can openly criticize the Chinese government, and yet YOUR argument is... what again?

Oh wait. You don't actually have an argument/position.

[Edited on April 21, 2021 at 8:36 PM. Reason : it's cute that you wanna 'feud', but at least make it about something more interesting]

4/21/2021 8:35:48 PM

The Coz
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^^If only. . .

4/21/2021 9:56:27 PM

UJustWait84
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I'm sure shoot is wayyyy too busy openly criticizing the Chinese government and getting away with it to bother to respond to this very important thread.

4/21/2021 10:37:16 PM

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