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qntmfred
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I'm debating whether to shut down the site. TWW is broke and doesn't make enough money to pay its expenses. There haven't been ads for a few years b/c the ad network we were using cut us off and my occasional attempts to register with new networks get denied due to either low traffic or the adult content. Premium subscriptions help (thank you!) but it hasn't been enough to pay the bills, and I've been covering the difference out of pocket for a while.

TWW turns 18 on April 1 and as TWW's caretaker I was willing to help pay its expenses when it was still a minor, but I'm not going to be an enabler and pay some grown-ass website's bills. So it's decision time. I think we can all agree that TWW has had an amazing run, and we've been joking about TWW dying for a decade so at this point it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if we did let TWW end. But, it's your site as much as it is mine, and if you're not ready for that, then we'll find a way to keep it going.

The way I see it there's a few options

Keep TWW running
1. at least 30 people sign up for premie
2. buy some ads! they're cheap, and hey you get to put whatever* message you want in the ad space. have some fun!
3. I don't want to help pay, somebody else do it

Let TWW end
1. We can hang out on facebook groups instead
2. We can hang out on reddit instead
3. We can hang out on slack instead

What say you? Vote in the poll as well

1/19/2018 2:22:24 PM

FroshKiller
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You need to be more transparent about expenses if we're gonna bail the site out. Thirty people getting a 12-month premium subscription is $750. Is that the total expenses for the year, or is it just the deficit for this year? How does that $750 break down?

1/19/2018 2:33:26 PM

DROD900
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I'd sign up for premie if we got enough other people to sign up for it. I'm not going to throw $25 away and have the site shut down in a month.

1/19/2018 2:37:37 PM

rjrumfel
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^^

I'll buy a premie subscription if it is what it takes, but how long does that keep us running?

Just out of curiosity, what are we hosted on? Is it an old dl380? A vm hosted in AWS?

I mean hell I'd be willing to chip in 10 dollars or more, but we need to figure out the finances. Maybe we can all be owners? By all I mean the ones that post regularly. Run this shit like an HOA.

Wait, are premies 25 now?

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 2:41 PM. Reason : adsas]

1/19/2018 2:41:03 PM

darkone
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How much does this place cost and could it be made cheaper?

Now, how to best troll with ads?....

1/19/2018 2:46:24 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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no sense in keeping it alive with no more posting than goes on now

1/19/2018 2:52:57 PM

EMCE
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I'll slang tastful dong pics, and donate the proceeds to TWW's coffers

1/19/2018 2:52:58 PM

LastInACC
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I have some homeworks from 2006 that we can sell to freshmen in Study Hall.

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2018 2:59:49 PM

qntmfred
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I don't mind talking about expenses, and yes there are ways to make it cheaper, but that also likely involves work on my part to move to cheaper hosting, etc. which frankly I'm not interested in doing at the moment due to other personal priorities.

I ask you to put those matters aside for a moment and decide 1) do you care if TWW continues to exist and 2) does the value that TWW brings to your life enough that you are willing to financially contribute in 2018 to making that happen. if there's enough Yes responses, I'll consider doing some work to make that financial burden smaller for you people to contribute toward.

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 3:11 PM. Reason : .]

1/19/2018 3:08:41 PM

Dynasty2004
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archive this bitch. lets go to reddit.


I've been using this website for 12 years. I would be sad to see it go.

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 3:12 PM. Reason : s]

1/19/2018 3:10:33 PM

GrumpyGOP
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I am very, very fond of this website. I'm willing to sign up for a premie again. I'd even buy ads. And if a decision is made to try to keep this thing on life support, I will do that.

But I hope that is not the decision. I love TWW, but my feeling is that this place must be allowed to die. There's no plausible scenario for a Wolfweb Renaissance. The decline in the user base can't be stabilized, let alone reversed.

I've always preferred this site's layout to Reddit, but it seems like the best place for a dedicated band of Brentroad Survivors / Wolfweb Exiles to regroup. It would permit those who want it to keep some semblance of anonymity and allow the posting of more grown-up content than Facebook. I confess I have no idea how slack works.

Please, though, give us some notice on the day you plan to pull the plug. Give us a chance to send it off in some sort of style, revisit classic memories, things like that.

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 3:13 PM. Reason : ]

1/19/2018 3:12:25 PM

qntmfred
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If we do decide to let TWW end, it'll be around April 1. We can have one last egg hunt and celebrate TWW's 18th birthday before saying goodbye

1/19/2018 3:14:06 PM

Dynasty2004
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How many ads would need to be purchased to continue the website for 5 more years?

1/19/2018 3:16:31 PM

rjrumfel
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So is there already a reddit group? I don't reddit, so I'd have to sign up. I'm actually pretty ignorant when it comes to reddit.

1/19/2018 3:18:43 PM

Dynasty2004
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^Yes. qntmfred made it during the black out of 2017

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 3:25 PM. Reason : my bad]

1/19/2018 3:21:00 PM

qntmfred
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^false

[Edited on January 19, 2018 at 3:28 PM. Reason : ]

1/19/2018 3:22:43 PM

FroshKiller
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Fuck Reddit, Reddit sucks.

1/19/2018 3:24:06 PM

Bullet
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I'd miss this place if it was gone. I actually get a lot of information here.

Quote :
"I'd sign up for premie if we got enough other people to sign up for it. I'm not going to throw $25 away and have the site shut down in a month."

1/19/2018 3:31:27 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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reddit is pretty shitty. i hate the interface/layout.

1/19/2018 3:31:59 PM

Grandmaster
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I'd rather just throw $25 somewhere when it comes time than to sign up for an ad.

1/19/2018 3:44:02 PM

Money_Jones
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I’ll go premie

1/19/2018 3:52:56 PM

afripino
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http://www.gofundme.com/TWW

1/19/2018 3:55:03 PM

Cabbage
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Quote :
"I'd sign up for premie if we got enough other people to sign up for it. I'm not going to throw $25 away and have the site shut down in a month."


#metoo

1/19/2018 4:13:26 PM

ElGimpy
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As little as I actually post on here I'd definitely not be happy if it disappeared. Would also be willing to contribute based on knowing it's actually going to continue

1/19/2018 4:17:52 PM

afripino
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you do realize, if TWW shuts down, the terrorists win

1/19/2018 4:21:24 PM

Wraith
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Count me in for a premie if needed. I've been loitering around on this site with you people for way too long for it to die.

1/19/2018 4:23:17 PM

DROD900
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People on board to buy premium

DROD900

1/19/2018 4:26:38 PM

Money_Jones
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People on board to buy premium

DROD900
Money_Jones

1/19/2018 4:28:37 PM

Cabbage
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People on board to buy premium

DROD900
Money_Jones
Cabbage

1/19/2018 4:30:06 PM

Grandmaster
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Well if your account is already flagged as premium I think it errors out if you try to go to the page.

Let's just build WolfCoin and then have an ICO.

1/19/2018 4:30:16 PM

afripino
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Can we just add a porn board and monitize off that?

1/19/2018 4:32:22 PM

dtownral
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how much does this site cost to operate? you can get a hosted vBulletin board for <$10/month

1/19/2018 4:37:23 PM

BigMan157
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patreon time, i'll contribute

i'll rewrite the bad boy for you if you want

1/19/2018 4:45:15 PM

afripino
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your sites are fine

1/19/2018 4:50:25 PM

ShawnaC123
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I'm on the fence. I kind of feel like it's time to let it die. I also kind of want to keep it going. So if there's some kind of united effort of people in keeping it going I'd contribute $25 or like buy another year of premie or whatever. But if we can't get the funds together, I accept its death.

1/19/2018 4:51:14 PM

Bullet
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If you want the site to die, why would you visit it, and post on it?

1/19/2018 4:52:43 PM

EMCE
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A modest proposal:

We unsuspend some of TWW's worst. I'm talking your esgargs, drunknloaded, GroundZero caliber users. Then, we introduce a 'sponsored-suspension' program, where other users can pay $5 to resuspend a user for a month.

1/19/2018 4:56:04 PM

ShawnaC123
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^^because I can.


^That would be amazing. I wish we could send out an email blast to every TWW user ever to let them know TWW is dying and see who shows back up.

1/19/2018 4:57:42 PM

dmspack
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i'd love to keep it going...i just signed up for premium a week or two ago, so i'm trying to do my part. and i'd happily buy premium again when this subscription runs out. but really....no point in keeping this shit on life support if that's what it comes down to. if it's begging enough people to sign up for premie every so often then, to me, it's not worth the hassle for everybody involved. i'd be fine with reddit or whatever, i guess....although i find reddit's layout p shitty.

1/19/2018 5:56:36 PM

Dentaldamn
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I’ll buy premium

1/19/2018 6:35:09 PM

dyne
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Archive it and move to reddit. The sad thing is that sports talk game threads have been deader than ever. Had to use reddit to get more active discussion during games

1/19/2018 6:48:03 PM

PaulISdead
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I need this site to be formatted to mobile

1/19/2018 6:55:47 PM

tulsigabbard
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i could set this exact same thing up on a free site for free and redirect the domain. don't get why its so expensive.

1/19/2018 7:20:07 PM

qntmfred
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ok go do it

1/19/2018 7:36:27 PM

justinh524
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OH SNAP

1/19/2018 7:45:15 PM

dustm
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I'll be happy whatever happens, as long as all you lovey people are there.

1/19/2018 7:45:55 PM

DonMega
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i'm not proud to admit this, but tww is the site I check most often

1/19/2018 7:47:55 PM

tulsigabbard
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http://www.phpbb.net/

1/19/2018 8:08:50 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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i think there are lots of us who check tww often. but we need to start posting some decent content.

1/19/2018 8:10:01 PM

theDuke866
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^



also,

Quote :
"Fuck Reddit, Reddit sucks."


Quote :
"I actually get a lot of information here."

1/19/2018 8:19:50 PM

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