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AstralEngine
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Wait why are we losing Beverly?

[Edited on February 23, 2018 at 10:01 AM. Reason : 2 year post season bans for every school]

2/23/2018 10:01:08 AM

Clifton
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"They gotta investigate us too, pal!"

2/23/2018 10:01:22 AM

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"Will the NCAA do anything before the upcoming tournament in regards to active players?"


i wouldn't hold my breath. the ncaa rarely, if ever, moves that fast.

2/23/2018 10:02:00 AM

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So if two teams both played with ineligible players and the win is vacated, did the game actually happen?

THEY GON TAKE OUR 4 ACC WINS AWAY..... OH NO!

2/23/2018 10:21:51 AM

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Part of me says to be the better ethical program and to just come right out now and self vacate last season.

But then that would probably just screw us and Carolina laid the blueprint for just fighting tooth and nail on everything.

I doubt that they will put in major institutional penalties given how many programs are impacted here but who the hell knows.

2/23/2018 10:26:56 AM

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http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22553502/fbi-probe-corruption-reveals-basketball-powers-broken-ncaa-rules

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"At least six players were identified in the documents as receiving payments exceeding $10,000. They include Dallas Mavericks point guard Dennis Smith Jr., who received $73,500 in loans from ASM before he played for NC State; "


LOL i dont give af after UNC. Let them BURN!!

2/23/2018 11:02:58 AM

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"Rowan wasn't a "borderline 4* player". When he was classified for his appropriate class, he was a 5* kid"


Rowan was not a 5-star player, on any reputable site. Rivals, 247, ESPN - all 4 stars

2/23/2018 11:14:03 AM

Clifton
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A lot of UNC people think this is only over a meal...

2/23/2018 11:26:24 AM

V0LC0M
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How did this get leaked?

2/23/2018 11:27:32 AM

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Yahoo probably just asked nicely.

2/23/2018 11:39:40 AM

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""They gotta investigate us too, pal!""


i very much lol'ed

2/23/2018 11:42:20 AM

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Tony Bradley's father denying they ever had dinner.
Dumb.

2/23/2018 11:45:05 AM

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Rowan was not a 5-star player, on any reputable site. Rivals, 247, ESPN - all 4 stars"


i think what he was referring to was...

https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2015/8/3/9089565/nc-state-recruiting-dennis-smith-bam-adebayo-maverick-rowan

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"Rowan was ranked No. 30 overall by ESPN in a class of 2016 that had 27 five-star prospects. "


(in other words, a very very high 4*) and then he classified and his ranking, obviously, changed. i can't find any rankings from before he reclassified, only his final ranking.


[Edited on February 23, 2018 at 11:53 AM. Reason : v]

2/23/2018 11:53:32 AM

Clifton
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Just realized if they take that loss at UNC away from last year we won’t have that on our records anymore lmao

2/23/2018 12:05:13 PM

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if any professional sports writer or recruitment site rated him a 5 star, they should be fired

2/23/2018 12:05:41 PM

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5 star in our hearts

2/23/2018 12:08:06 PM

dmspack
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^^^i know you're just joking, but when you vacate a season you only vacate the wins...not the losses.

2/23/2018 12:16:31 PM

Clifton
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It was their win though, unless we’ve already reached the conclusion they won’t be touched by this.

2/23/2018 12:23:49 PM

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which of course we have given history repeating itself...

[Edited on February 23, 2018 at 12:26 PM. Reason : .]

2/23/2018 12:26:05 PM

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Unless Bradley's dinner with the agent was in excess of $200, he'll be fine. He'll donate the money to charity(the usual punishment) and they'll be fine.

Will be interesting to see what happens to Duke and if they'll bench any questionable guys for the rest of the season.

2/23/2018 12:34:54 PM

V0LC0M
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Who's been named at Duke?

2/23/2018 12:46:15 PM

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"Alabama (Collin Sexton - dinner)

Clemson (Jaron Blossomgame - cash)

Creighton (Justin Patton - dinner)

Duke (Wendell Carter - dinner)

Iowa State (Monte Morris - dinner)

Kansas (Josh Jackson - cash)

Kentucky (Bam Adebayo and Kevin Knox - "bad loan" and dinner)

LSU (Tim Quarterman - loans)

Louisville (Brian Bowen - cash)

Maryland (Diamond Stone - loans)

Michigan State (Miles Bridges and Tom Izzo - cash and dinner)

North Carolina (Tony Bradley - dinner)

North Carolina State (Dennis Smith - loans)

Notre Dame (Demetrius Jackson - dinner)

Seton Hall (Isaiah Whitehead - loans)

South Carolina (Brian Bowen and P.J. Dozier - cash)

Texas (Eric Davis and Prince Ibeh - cash and dinner)

USC (Bennie Boatwright and Chimezie Metu - cash)

Utah (Kyle Kuzma - cash)

Vanderbilt (Wade Baldwin - dinner)

Villanova (coaches - dinner)

Virginia (Malcolm Brogdon - dinner)

Washington (Markelle Fultz - loans)

Wichita State (Fred Van Vleet - cash)

Xavier (Edmond Sumner - cash)"


I'm not sure if I ever posted it here or not but I had heard when we were recruiting Bam and DSJr from a friend who runs a pretty influential State fan site that our boosters had given DSJr $40k and that we had tried to go for Bam as well but UK gave him more than we could since we'd have to offer them equally because they were friends / would know if we didn't. I didn't want to believe that we'd be dirty then, and I don't want to believe it now but it matches up pretty closely to what I had heard. I hope that, at worst, it was Adidas doing shady shit unbeknownst to the university, although I don't put anything past Gott

2/23/2018 12:48:10 PM

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"we’ve already reached the conclusion they won’t be touched by this."

2/23/2018 12:50:36 PM

V0LC0M
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Let's be real here, no one is getting penalized over a dinner. Cash handouts and "loans" whatever the fuck that means, are going to get the NCAA's attention. So that narrows the list to:


Clemson (Jaron Blossomgame - cash)

Kansas (Josh Jackson - cash)

Kentucky (Bam Adebayo and Kevin Knox - "bad loan" and dinner)

LSU (Tim Quarterman - loans)

Maryland (Diamond Stone - loans)

Michigan State (Miles Bridges and Tom Izzo - cash and dinner)

North Carolina State (Dennis Smith - loans)

Seton Hall (Isaiah Whitehead - loans)

South Carolina (Brian Bowen and P.J. Dozier - cash)

Texas (Eric Davis and Prince Ibeh - cash and dinner)

USC (Bennie Boatwright and Chimezie Metu - cash)

Utah (Kyle Kuzma - cash)

Washington (Markelle Fultz - loans)

Wichita State (Fred Van Vleet - cash)

Xavier (Edmond Sumner - cash)"

2/23/2018 1:06:06 PM

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"Unless Bradley's dinner with the agent was in excess of $200, he'll be fine. He'll donate the money to charity(the usual punishment) and they'll be fine. "


I'm thinking if it made this list, it's not a McDonalds lunch we're talking about here.

And I don't think this is the end of people implicated, either. This is more or less just what Yahoo got their hands on, from my understanding. It's not the end-all be-all FBI dossier on this stuff.

2/23/2018 1:09:42 PM

AstralEngine
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NC State is saying they distanced themselves from the agent that was implicated in the DSJ scandal back in 2012. We should be ok

2/23/2018 1:11:10 PM

Clifton
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Question - are we for certain Yow didn't pick up on this stuff amidst Gottfried's mid-season firing? To me, it seems somewhat likely, but I think DSJ would have been immediately suspended/kicked off the team...

2/23/2018 1:12:32 PM

V0LC0M
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"We should be ok"


AHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH

[Edited on February 23, 2018 at 1:17 PM. Reason : .]

2/23/2018 1:15:09 PM

Clifton
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"I'm not sure if I ever posted it here or not but I had heard when we were recruiting Bam and DSJr from a friend who runs a pretty influential State fan site that our boosters had given DSJr $40k and that we had tried to go for Bam as well but UK gave him more than we could since we'd have to offer them equally because they were friends / would know if we didn't. I didn't want to believe that we'd be dirty then, and I don't want to believe it now but it matches up pretty closely to what I had heard. I hope that, at worst, it was Adidas doing shady shit unbeknownst to the university, although I don't put anything past Gott

"


If shit is this obvious and idiotic to where we have rumors getting to this site of all places, then maybe we deserve to get hammered hard.

2/23/2018 1:30:08 PM

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i will seriously laugh my ass off if we've been paying players real money for these results, and i hope those players laughed their way to the bank

2/23/2018 1:32:51 PM

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Yeah we were terrible with dsj.

Maybe other players knew how much he was getting paid and got jealous

2/23/2018 1:39:26 PM

skokiaan
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.

[Edited on February 23, 2018 at 1:44 PM. Reason : .]

2/23/2018 1:42:52 PM

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"i will seriously laugh my ass off if we've been paying players real money for these results, and i hope those players laughed their way to the bank"

2/23/2018 2:04:33 PM

justinh524
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So ncsuallday is friends with the people that run PackInsider? That makes so much sense.

2/23/2018 2:09:57 PM

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Buying the top recruit for nearly 6 figures is some go hard or go home shit for a program we assumed didn't regularly do this.

2/23/2018 2:52:46 PM

AstralEngine
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^Who did that?

2/23/2018 3:15:26 PM

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Let's be real here, no one is getting penalized over a dinner. Cash handouts and "loans", whatever the fuck that means, at institutions that have a history of having shit happen to them, are going to get the NCAA's attention. So that narrows the list to:

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"North Carolina State (Dennis Smith - loans)"

2/23/2018 3:21:27 PM

Clifton
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History since when - since Jimmy V coached here?

Jesus.

2/23/2018 3:33:07 PM

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If this causes Coach KK to leave us...mark my words

2/23/2018 3:35:05 PM

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[Edited on February 23, 2018 at 3:39 PM. Reason : ]

2/23/2018 3:36:14 PM

dtownral
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someone peeked into my office to see what i was laughing about

2/23/2018 3:42:02 PM

Clifton
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Just gonna address the elephant in the room. I think we now know why there was an overwhelming absence of NC State shit as of late...

2/23/2018 3:59:43 PM

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In our heart of hearts, we all know how this is going to end. We will be the poster child of NCAA punishment for this scandal whether the school was directly involved or not. We will get obliterated back to the eternity we never recovered from to begin with and so will go State basketball. 1911-2018 RIP

On one hand, if the school was not involved, I have no confidence the NCAA will be able to rule fairly on the case. On the other hand, I'm scared to death the school was involved, in which case we deserve to be destroyed and I may just stop watching basketball and pick up a hobby like whittling or bird watching or some shit. I'm just a tortured state fan I guess.

[Edited on February 23, 2018 at 4:05 PM. Reason : ]

2/23/2018 4:01:49 PM

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As long as the Worldwide Renegades shit doesnt come out, we should be fine.

Although the possibility we get Cleveland State'd sucks

2/23/2018 4:22:53 PM

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"In our heart of hearts, we all know how this is going to end. We will be the poster child of NCAA punishment for this scandal whether the school was directly involved or not. We will get obliterated back to the eternity we never recovered from to begin with and so will go State basketball. 1911-2018 RIP
"


nah, this isn't gonna happen.

2/23/2018 5:06:16 PM

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From what I've read so far, it doesn't look like the university did anything wrong. And if we have to forfeit last year's wins, no big deal, it's not like we're forfeiting a conference title or anything.

2/23/2018 6:09:06 PM

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Here's to hoping, but I think I echo the sentiment that Gottfried can't be trusted.

[Edited on February 23, 2018 at 7:24 PM. Reason : damn]

2/23/2018 6:58:17 PM

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"National Cheater State University"


what some UNC fans were calling State in the N&O comments. So witty!

2/23/2018 9:36:20 PM

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That’s more better than the NCeStU or whatever that stupid “insult” was.

2/23/2018 10:12:52 PM

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Just seems silly when that would make them University of National Cheaters?

2/23/2018 10:14:35 PM

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