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thegoodlife3
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now that I’m watching that video in a quiet room, it’s even more absurd that people were trying to claim the crowd wasn’t loudly cheering the injury

we’ve all watched a lifetime of sports and know what it sounds like when an opposing crowd applauds when an injured player walks off of the court, which is the exact sound that was made at the end of that video. fans don’t loudly yell and cheer in that situation, which is what they did up until he walked off of the court

and an opposing crowd for damn sure would never cheer that loudly when an injured opponent gets to their feet

[Edited on June 11, 2019 at 1:17 AM. Reason : .]

6/11/2019 1:12:07 AM

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what an absurd post

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"and an opposing crowd for damn sure would never cheer that loudly when an injured opponent gets to their feet"


when you're watching football, you must go to the bathroom or to get a drink refill every single time a player gets hit hard and is slow to get up

[Edited on June 11, 2019 at 1:27 AM. Reason : .]

6/11/2019 1:23:51 AM

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The mission was nearly completed. I think for Raptors, it's just a matter of time to get the job done.
The worst scenario, however, is Dubs coming back to the Jurassic park and killing them at home---Stephen Curry makes a buzzer beater at the end of Game 7 like Jeremy Lamb did in March and like how he did to OKC a few years ago. OMG. That would be the single biggest nightmare Toronto fans ever have in their entire lives.

6/11/2019 9:13:46 AM

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Watching live I thought they were cheering for Durant being hurt. I thought that was obvious...

6/11/2019 9:46:59 AM

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Soooory aboot that

-Canada

6/11/2019 9:51:57 AM

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Sorry about letting Durant play on an injured Achilles and potentially ruining his career.

- Warriors management

6/11/2019 11:07:55 AM

UJustWait84
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FOH with that.

The dude loves basketball and wanted to win another title and got hurt. People like you called him a snake and now you're calling him a victim? Weak.

6/11/2019 11:27:47 AM

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I have literally never called Durant a snake.

He was going to be the greatest basketball player of all time. Not any more, thanks to doctors and team management not doing their jobs.

6/11/2019 12:35:11 PM

thegoodlife3
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KD is a grown ass man and played because he wanted to play

6/11/2019 12:35:50 PM

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Somebody gonna pay him $41M to not play next year? And just hope he comes back the same? I wouldn't, but then again I'm only a multi-millionaire, not a billionaire

6/11/2019 2:48:42 PM

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^^Yea players are always going to want to play, that's why you have doctors and coaches to help balance that desire. He was getting all kinds of pressure from media, and some of that must have come from team sources bc how else would they know his injury? Kerr was just in the media saying Durants injury couldn't get worse. If he was supermax with the Warriors for the next 4 years, I wonder if he still plays last night.

6/11/2019 2:53:07 PM

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Zion Williamson is entering the league. A new dark knight is rising. RIP KD.

6/11/2019 3:03:55 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7mmljjxlqY

Fans chant "fuck, KD"

6/11/2019 4:33:45 PM

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They still wear coats in the summer.

6/11/2019 5:08:06 PM

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75% live in igloos and no one in Canada has an air conditioner

6/11/2019 5:22:49 PM

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^^^ wow you found a video of like 3 drunk fans saying something stupid!

ALERT THE PRESS

6/11/2019 6:46:53 PM

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The fucked up thing with KD is that if he hadn't played and the Warriors lost, the entire internet (including many Warriors fans) would be shitting on him, saying he's soft, he's not committed to the team, he just wanted to preserve his health for FA so he could leave for money, etc. So it really was a damned if you do, damned if you don't, although with the benefit of hindsight, it obviously would have been better to not get a career threatening injury.

6/11/2019 8:58:25 PM

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Ok. So it seems like some of you people are saying is that people shat all over KD for the past 3 years for wanting to play basketball on one of the best teams in history because he loves the game more than most people would ever understand, yet he sacrificed his body (and potentially and career) to help his TEAM try to win a third straight title, and he ended up getting horribly injured? And those very same people, including the media, who tried to destroy him and everything he worked for, now suddenly feel sorry for him and want to blame the coaching staff and the very people who’ve helped him recover from multiple injuries over the past 3 years? The same staff that wouldn’t allow Klay to play in game 3, despite him insisting he was good to go?

I don’t know KD, but as a fan of his and the game, I can safely say that all of his haters deserve to choke to death on a gigantic dick, since they are essentially the same pathetic group of Raptors fans who cheered with glee when he went down.

It probably won’t happen, but Ws in 7 and him resigning with them would be absolute perfection.

6/11/2019 11:31:42 PM

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"for wanting to play basketball on one of the best teams in history because he loves the game more than most people would ever understand"


so KD joined the super team that just beat him because he loves the game so much?

6/11/2019 11:46:20 PM

thegoodlife3
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where’s the logic in that? he can’t love basketball because he joined the Warriors?

I mean, he left a pretty joyless basketball situation and joined a team that played a much better style of basketball that suited his talents perfectly

not too much of a stretch to understand that he sought out more joy in something that he loves

6/12/2019 12:03:21 AM

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he can love basketball as much as he wants, that's not why he joined the warriors. are the warriors the only team acceptable for players who love basketball or something?

and since when was OKC a "joyless" experience for him?

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 12:06 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2019 12:04:28 AM

thegoodlife3
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he’s said in the past that he joined them because it was a perfect fit

there wasn’t a better situation basketball-wise than the Warriors

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"and since when was OKC a "joyless" experience for him?"


having to step aside for Westbrook half of the time doesn’t seem like it would be more fun than playing with a team that actually plays team basketball as opposed to taking turns with a ball dominant point guard

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 12:09 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2019 12:07:15 AM

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the Warriors are about the best situation for any player in the league who wants to win a title, Durant isn't unique in that respect.

but many other superstars who chose not to join historically great teams loved basketball as well. they just chose to try and beat the best teams, rather than join them. has nothing to do with loving basketball.

^did Durant ever say that he didn't like OKC? or are you just assuming for him?

btw, I am not doubting his love of the game one bit. that's clearly why he was out there last night. but to act like he joined the Warriors simple because of his love of the game is just silly.

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 12:12 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2019 12:09:30 AM

thegoodlife3
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Durant is unique in that he’s Durant and nobody else is

that’s what’s known as leverage

he’s never said that he didn’t like OKC, just that he wanted to go somewhere that was a better fit for him

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 12:13 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2019 12:11:50 AM

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he left to win championships. same reason Cousins joined muh Dubs. same reason Malone and Payton went to the Lakers. same reason Barkley went to Houston.

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 12:13 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2019 12:12:44 AM

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You two are too busy slap-fighting to make fun of this obvious homerific stupidity:

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"k. So it seems like some of you people are saying is that people shat all over KD for the past 3 years for wanting to play basketball on one of the best teams in history because he loves the game more than most people would ever understand, yet he sacrificed his body (and potentially and career) to help his TEAM try to win a third straight title, and he ended up getting horribly injured? And those very same people, including the media, who tried to destroy him and everything he worked for, now suddenly feel sorry for him and want to blame the coaching staff and the very people who’ve helped him recover from multiple injuries over the past 3 years? The same staff that wouldn’t allow Klay to play in game 3, despite him insisting he was good to go?

I don’t know KD, but as a fan of his and the game, I can safely say that all of his haters deserve to choke to death on a gigantic dick, since they are essentially the same pathetic group of Raptors fans who cheered with glee when he went down.

It probably won’t happen, but Ws in 7 and him resigning with them would be absolute perfection"


[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 12:17 AM. Reason : Getting lost in slap-fighty weeds of somebody else's stupidity. Sad!]

6/12/2019 12:16:15 AM

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"he left to win championships"


it’s not like it’s an either/or. he wanted to play in a better basketball situation which of course comes with more winning. what’s the sin of wanting to win?

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"same reason Cousins joined muh Dubs. same reason Malone and Payton went to the Lakers. same reason Barkley went to Houston."


none of these examples are anything like his decision to become a free agent in his prime and go to a team that is a perfect fit

this was a one year rehab (both physical and emotional) assignment for Cousins after a major injury and the last 3 were vets waaay past their prime chasing rings because of Rings Culture

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 12:34 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2019 12:26:17 AM

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Durant can do whatever he wants to do. But I don't see what's so hard to understand about why people would criticize him for joining the best team in the league to get a title, rather than trying to win one "on his own." I guess some people value the competitive aspects of sports more than others.

6/12/2019 12:37:27 AM

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I value people doing whatever they want to do that will make them the happiest

the people who give athletes shit for never winning a ring are the same ones who shit on them for better positioning themselves to win a ring

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 12:45 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2019 12:40:06 AM

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"I value people doing whatever they want to do that will make them the happiest
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I don't watch sports primarily to see people be their happiest. I enjoy the competition.

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 12:50 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2019 12:46:57 AM

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there’s no requirement that competitive people must be miserable

they also still gotta play the games

6/12/2019 12:52:05 AM

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You just seem to act like anyone who criticized Durant's move to Golden State, or possibly Lebron's move to Miami, etc, thinks that players shouldn't have the right to do whatever they want or whatever makes them happy. Nobody is saying players shouldn't be able to go to whatever team. But how do you not understand why some people would think "if you can't beat em, join em" isn't the strongest trait for comparing ultra-competitive athletes?

6/12/2019 12:57:09 AM

thegoodlife3
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not every athlete is ultra-competitive and that’s not a trait that people should strive for if that’s not in their personality

we gotta stop attributing these things to athletes just because fans think that’s the way it should be

6/12/2019 1:06:09 AM

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as long as winning and losing are the 2 outcomes of sporting events, fans are going to care about players wanting to win and have opinions on such things

and freak athletes who aren't passionate about the game are a tiny minority of player bases. most successful pro athletes get to where they are, largely with their work ethic and competitive nature, on top of their great physical gifts. sports are always going to be about that.

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 1:11 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2019 1:08:07 AM

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I would bet Kevin Durants contract extension that his team moves are about his legacy, not his "joy"

And glad UJW admitting Durant having to re-sign bc of his injury would be "perfection"

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"having to step aside for Westbrook half of the time doesn’t seem like it would be more fun than playing with a team that actually plays team basketball as opposed to taking turns with a ball dominant point guard "


This actually flies in the face of your "best fit" statement. The Warriors have/had to change the way they play to account for Durant. They give him isolation possessions much more than they give curry.

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 7:14 AM. Reason : Ee]

6/12/2019 7:07:57 AM

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I think KD was totally in the right to move to GS, but it was bad for the league in that it made it less entertaining to fans. You don't want a situation where going into the season, everyone already knows who is coming away with a chip. If there's anyone to blame, it's the league for allowing an environment where a super team like that can even come about at the same time as these smaller market teams struggle to even hold onto one star player.

But, there's an interesting question here: Would Lebron have considered going to GS? If not, why not?

6/12/2019 11:02:45 AM

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^^ as they should. it’s completely fine for them to adjust their style of play for him (or any other player of his caliber) the way they’ve played with Durant the last 3 seasons is still better than the “my turn your turn” way the Thunder played.

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 11:06 AM. Reason : .]

6/12/2019 11:04:45 AM

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Lebron is going to Hollywood. He dedicates his last few seasons in LA.

6/12/2019 11:06:04 AM

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"And glad UJW admitting Durant having to re-sign bc of his injury would be "perfection"
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I mean, shit. After all the incessant questioning about his heart/loyalty/work ethic/motivations/etc, I think it would be pretty damned fitting if he re-signed with the TEAM he sacrificed his body for, on top of a winning a 3-peat. It would be the perfect Hollywood-esque conclusion to a season riddled with drama and it would piss off his haters even more. Not as much as if he won a 3rd straight title healthy, mind you, but yeah, GSW fans would love to see that happen. Why the fuck wouldn't we?

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 12:53 PM. Reason : lmao at insinuating that I'm "happy" he got hurt so he can be some charity case for the Ws. FOH]

6/12/2019 12:51:34 PM

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"but it was bad for the league in that it made it less entertaining to fans"


This shit is so dumb. There's hardly ever been any parity in the league and in my lifetime, I've lived through Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Spurs, Heat (short-lived, but whatev), and GSW dynasties. Quit acting like KD 'ruined' it for everyone, when he really just made it less interesting for you, personally.

You sound like Charles Barkley bitching about all the 3s that teams shoot. I guess Curry ruined the league too then, huh?

6/12/2019 12:56:52 PM

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^^I mean maybe every single media report was wrong, but BEFORE the injury he seemed super unlikely to leave. So if he stays, seems like it would be to rebuild/confirm his value once healthy. Seems unlikely he signs anything longer than 1 year this summer, but if he signs some mulit year contract with muh Dubs, then I will concede he wanted to stay.

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" as they should. it’s completely fine for them to adjust their style of play for him (or any other player of his caliber) the way they’ve played with Durant the last 3 seasons is still better than the “my turn your turn” way the Thunder played."


You're the one that brought up perfect fit. Seems like a team that doesn't really NEED him and has to greatly adjust their style to accommodate him isn't exactly a perfect fit. And it's still my turn (kd) your turn (rest of team)

6/12/2019 1:02:30 PM

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I don't know KD personally, but I have admittedly followed him and his career pretty closely because he's an interesting dude, basketball heroics aside.

Bob Myers seems to get it right in that most people completely misunderstand him, let alone misunderstanding how he gets along with his teammates. To me, he seems like a pretty complex dude. The polar opposite of Kawhi, in the sense that what you may see on the surface may not be an accurate reflection of what he's really thinking and feeling. He's obviously very sensitive, and his defensiveness/trolling on social media definitely don't make him look all that great, but maybe he's just sick of people insisting that they've got him all figured out and knowing exactly what he's thinking/feeling when they don't. It would certainly piss me off.

I could be wrong, but maybe it's possible that he really didn't know what he wanted to do at the beginning and middle of the season? Maybe he really did want to bounce for a greater challenge, but maybe he hadn't even gotten that far in the decision making process and he just wanted to focus on basketball in the present. Not everyone likes to be so future-oriented, and some people change their minds constantly before arriving at a final decision. Again, this is just my opinion, but he doesn't seem to fit the mold of most NBA superstars and he marches to the beat of his own drum. (YAY cliches!)

The incident with Draymond certainly gave the media a huge focal point to further the narrative that he was unhappy with the Ws, but for a guy that seems to be pretty mercurial, maybe it was just a sore spot that they moved on from? IDK. Seems like if he was really over it, he woulda pulled a Kawhi and not bothered with trying to win- especially after he got hurt.

I guess what pisses me off the most is that no matter what he does he will be criticized vocally first and foremost and then praised with caveats. He's just not as 'adorable' as Steph or Lebron, because he's kinda moody and hard to read.

tl; dr: LEAVE KD ALONE!

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 1:20 PM. Reason : also, did you mean "likely" instead of "unlikely"? ]

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 1:20 PM. Reason : or stay instead of leave?]

6/12/2019 1:17:17 PM

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I think he signs a 1 year contract bc otherwise either a team will have to take a huge risk to max him (which is possible, either as a gamble or stupidity) or he'll have to sign for less and leave money on the table. Basically a Boogie deal.

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 1:24 PM. Reason : Oh, the other one: he seemed likely to OFF the Warriors ]

6/12/2019 1:23:07 PM

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I mean that's not exactly a far-fetched prediction, and if anyone "owes" him a max contract, it would be the Ws

The thing that continues to really bother me is the total lack of transparency about his injury. Do we even know what the extent of it is yet? Is it a full rupture? Partial tear? What about the calf injury? Were they related (seems pretty clear they were) or was this just bad luck?

The Ws did a piss poor job of controlling the injury narrative from the get, which has only made this situation worse for everyone involved. I get that revealing the extent of an injury isn't really a great strategy since it tips your hand to your opposition, but this whole thing has been so ridiculous. And the sad part is that we may never know what really happened.

6/12/2019 1:28:23 PM

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"pulled a Kawhi"


6/12/2019 1:34:26 PM

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"This shit is so dumb. There's hardly ever been any parity in the league and in my lifetime, I've lived through Celtics, Lakers, Bulls, Spurs, Heat (short-lived, but whatev), and GSW dynasties. Quit acting like KD 'ruined' it for everyone, when he really just made it less interesting for you, personally."


There never will be parity and no one expects that.

The unique thing in the case of KD was that he got to the conference finals with ostensibly the 2nd best team and had a super competitive 7 game matchup against a 73 win Warriors, arguably their best season...and then went to that very team, making them even better. This strikes literally everyone other than Warriors fans as an imbalance of power. KD didn't do the wrong thing. GS FO didn't do the wrong thing. But it's still a worse result for the league, and no, I'm not the only one who thinks so.

6/12/2019 1:36:24 PM

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If the Dubs give him a supermax, that would fall under "stupidity". It could work out great but it's a huge risk. We'll managed teams don't give contracts bc they "owe" a player. It may be cold, but you pay for future expectations not past performance.

6/12/2019 1:36:46 PM

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Maxing KD would be a huge gamble that could literally end the dynasty by itself if the injury is devastating enough and that money goes down the toilet. If the Warriors do it, it shouldn't be because they "owe" anything to KD.

[Edited on June 12, 2019 at 1:39 PM. Reason : ]

6/12/2019 1:38:49 PM

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"You're the one that brought up perfect fit. Seems like a team that doesn't really NEED him and has to greatly adjust their style to accommodate him isn't exactly a perfect fit. And it's still my turn (kd) your turn (rest of team)"


he has more space to work with the Warriors than he ever did with the Thunder and went to the team that has lead the league in assists for 5 straight years (2 before he got there)

and I’ve got to believe it’s better to rely on more of your teammates when necessary than to have Westbrook do his thing night in and night out

6/12/2019 1:42:46 PM

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You keep arguing that Warriors were a BETTER fit than the thunder, not PERFECT fit. Also kd might have "more room" but his fga and assist rate barely changed. He shot slightly less and assists slightly more. Seems like his personal fit didn't change much

Also, I just saw kd has a $31mil player option for Dubs, my money says he takes that and goes to free agency NEXT summer. But we'll see.

6/12/2019 1:58:48 PM

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