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rwoody
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I love the aggressiveness, better to have an unexpected one now then an expected one later, execution obviously not there

Game plan overall hasn't been bad tonight just mistakes are killing us


Plus the way our D is playing it doesn't matter if they start on the 20 or 50

[Edited on November 16, 2019 at 10:06 PM. Reason : E]

11/16/2019 10:05:09 PM

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Disagree, 10 points down with 13 min left doesn’t require extra possessions.

Plus it puts our defense in a shitty position

[Edited on November 16, 2019 at 10:06 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2019 10:05:37 PM

rwoody
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If we scored on every possession and stopped then on every possession. What about this game makes you think either of those is true?

11/16/2019 10:07:03 PM

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I’d guess we’d have a better than 15% chance of holding them to at worst a FG.

Short fields from turnovers have hurt more than defensive intensity

[Edited on November 16, 2019 at 10:11 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2019 10:10:14 PM

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Doeren just nutted himself after seeing that fake FG score

11/16/2019 10:11:08 PM

dmspack
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Ahahahahaha holy shit fuck this season

11/16/2019 10:11:30 PM

HaLo
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LMAO

11/16/2019 10:11:44 PM

rwoody
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That was fucking embarrassing

11/16/2019 10:11:49 PM

HaLo
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That’s an appropriate risk

11/16/2019 10:12:30 PM

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We had the fake covered pretty well but their kicker threw a strike while jumping in the air. Typical for this season.

11/16/2019 10:13:59 PM

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do we really NEED a football team?

11/16/2019 10:14:49 PM

rwoody
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No we didn't, they completely stopped covering the receiver. He was wide open.

11/16/2019 10:14:52 PM

HaLo
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The receiver had no defender within 5 yards...it wasn’t covered well

11/16/2019 10:14:55 PM

dmspack
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It *was* covered well. Then Moore didn’t stay with him after the initial roll out.

11/16/2019 10:17:01 PM

natureboy
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Replay showed it was covered great until the last few seconds when our guy lost the receiver.

11/16/2019 10:17:59 PM

HaLo
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So it wasn’t covered well

11/16/2019 10:18:27 PM

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Whatever. Nothing about this game has made me feel any better about our offense or Leary going forward.

11/16/2019 10:22:30 PM

rwoody
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Why still running

11/16/2019 10:23:15 PM

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Kicker held onto the ball, drawing the defenders to him, Moore maybe thought he was gonna keep it and run...and TE broke from the route and was wide open. I mean it’s all stupid to argue. We reacted well to the fake. Kicker managed to sort of extend the play and Moore didn’t stay home on his man.

11/16/2019 10:23:25 PM

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"Nothing about this game has made me feel any better about our offense or Leary going forward"


Yeah I wanna be optimistic about the future but Leary’s leaving a lot to be desired.

11/16/2019 10:24:59 PM

rwoody
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You must be joking
Fire him now if they're gonna kick a field goal there

11/16/2019 10:28:55 PM

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TD or FG, it’s still a 2 possession game right?

I’m not happy with DD this season at all. But I’m not sure it’s such a bad decision. I could be convinced otherwise though.

11/16/2019 10:33:11 PM

HaLo
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Not terrible, extends the game

11/16/2019 10:35:02 PM

rwoody
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We still need AT LEAST 2 TDs and we're in the redzone. You could get the fg 20 yds farther away. Kicking it means you're confident you'll get easier opportunities for the td

Kicking it at 4th and 7 from the 15 means going for it on every single 4th down now

It doesn't extend the game it just gives false hope

[Edited on November 16, 2019 at 10:37 PM. Reason : E]

And time is a factor, with time running out its way better to need a fg vs needing a td


I mean jfc our team actually got in the red zone, with 6 minutes left you HAVE to get the td

[Edited on November 16, 2019 at 10:39 PM. Reason : E]

11/16/2019 10:36:49 PM

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I don’t disagree, it was 4th and long though

Eh, you’re right

[Edited on November 16, 2019 at 10:40 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2019 10:39:09 PM

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Man I feel like our opponents’ have been especially good at pinning us inside the 10 on punts all year.

[Edited on November 16, 2019 at 10:41 PM. Reason : Also, fair analysis rwoody. I think you’re right given time and field position. ]

11/16/2019 10:40:15 PM

rwoody
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I guess I've listed enough reasons but it also means you've already given up a regulation win, but with our team that was a pipe dream anyway

Doeren has just always been been too conservative but oh well

And we should ask every team to play prevent, leary looks good vs prevent!

[Edited on November 16, 2019 at 10:44 PM. Reason : E]

11/16/2019 10:42:07 PM

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Down 17 with 6 to go, you’re hoping just to get to OT

11/16/2019 10:43:39 PM

rwoody
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Jesus fuck get it over with

11/16/2019 10:46:23 PM

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"4th and long"


I know you marked it out but that was also 4th and 7.

11/16/2019 10:52:58 PM

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Do we deserve a bowl game this season or nah?

11/16/2019 11:05:02 PM

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I’m not going to argue too much but 4th and 7 is 4th and long. Your only play call is a pass, the defense knows it’s a pass. It’s not a high prob situation, unlike 4th and 3 where you could call a run or pass and so the defense has to defend a bigger range of plays.

11/16/2019 11:14:04 PM

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We will deserve a bowl if we get to 6 wins. If we don’t get to 6 wins then we don’t deserve a bowl.

11/16/2019 11:14:22 PM

rwoody
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^^my point was that last play was also 4th and 7. It's very likely you're going to have to convert 4ty and long eventually, might as well do it early so you know

And we shouldn't have been running it anyway, needed 3 straight 2 minute drills

[Edited on November 16, 2019 at 11:38 PM. Reason : E]

11/16/2019 11:23:56 PM

rwoody
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JSW and McCloud off the depth chart

11/18/2019 12:47:59 PM

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I'm glad I got drunk during that game and don't remember the details.

11/18/2019 1:58:41 PM

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^^Pretty sure McCloud hasn't been on a depth chart since the first few games. He wasn't on the depth chart when he played in the Clemson game.

11/18/2019 2:35:27 PM

rwoody
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And? You think if he was likely to play as of today he'd be on or off the chart?

11/18/2019 2:38:57 PM

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^Clearly means that just because he isn't on that depth chart doesn't mean he won't play. All it means is as of today he isn't a lock to play. Pretty sure Person wasn't on the depth chart last week and he played against UL. Our staff seems to just remove any guys that are questionable off of the depth chart each week and I think this is a similar situation.

Wouldn't be surprised if McCloud played this week, JSW seems like a longer shot given he was just hurt against UL. Just saying I wouldn't read anything into our depth chart on whether a guy is Questionable or Out.

[Edited on November 18, 2019 at 2:47 PM. Reason : .]

11/18/2019 2:47:14 PM

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Dave said after the clemson game it would depend on if nick felt well enough to play on if hed be back. Said he gave it a go against Clemson and figured out quickly he wasnt as ready as he thought he was.

11/18/2019 3:08:36 PM

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"All it means is as of today he isn't a lock to pla"


Yes exactly, who implied anything else? Not being on the depth chart is certainly not a good sign, especially on a short week, but it isn't definitive and nobody said it was.

11/18/2019 3:34:50 PM

Dynasty2004
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If we lose to GT I swear to god.

11/18/2019 3:45:43 PM

dmspack
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^ that’s how I felt a month ago. Now....I dunno, we’re 2 point underdogs. It’s pretty much a 50/50 game as far as I can tell

11/18/2019 4:14:36 PM

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NC state is 2-7-1 Against the spread.

You could have made quite a bit of pocket change this season beating against NC State.

1-5 In conference play ATS

11/18/2019 6:01:36 PM

justinh524
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Aussie punter is transferring

11/18/2019 8:11:02 PM

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G'day.

11/19/2019 12:01:54 PM

TKE-Teg
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^^seriously? He's one of the best players on our team.

was MVP of the Clemson game, lol. Shit.

11/19/2019 12:56:24 PM

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No. He’s the back up.

Gill is the starter and he’s really good.

11/19/2019 1:04:32 PM

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https://packinsider.com/2019/11/18/punter-mackenzie-morgan-transfers-from-nc-state/

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"Many expected Morgan to be the starting punter for the Wolfpack in 2019, but Redshirt Sophomore Trenton Gill earned a scholarship before the start of the season, and ultimately earned the starting job.

It’s understandable that Morgan decided to transfer. It doesn’t look like Gill has any plans on loosening his grip on the job. He is currently averaging 47.9 yards per punt, which ranks 2nd in the ACC, by only 0.4 yards per punt. Also, he is very likely to break Johnny Evans single season record at NC State for average yards per punt set back in 1975 (46.1)."

11/19/2019 1:08:09 PM

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Quote :
"Gill is the starter and he’s really good."


Really good is a stretch IMO. He's clearly got a strong leg, but he regularly booms punts into the endzone. He's not so good at pinning the other team deep. Apparently no one keeps punting stats on net yardage or punts inside the 20/10 for college football so I have no data to back this up.

11/19/2019 1:33:52 PM

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