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packboozie
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Might not be a good idea to keep recruiting short guards that can't really shoot that well.

Breon Pass looks like half our team (Hayes, Allen, Moore, Beverly).

1/27/2021 10:22:40 PM

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"You can't defend Beverly and shit on Blake Harris in the same breath. They have nearly identical stats per minute. (Harris was a way better defender though)."


You can though. Obviously i am the biggest Beverly hater here, but Harris was a whole other league of bad. It doesn't matter how good a defender a PG is when he constantly turns the ball over on the other end. It was obvious why Harris never got minutes here (or at missouri). I mean he's averaging 3.4 turnovers (to 2.3 assists) at A&T this year. Every year he's turned the ball over on ~25% of his possessions. That's incredibly bad.

1/27/2021 10:44:08 PM

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Beverly's minutes have gone down every season, fyi

1/27/2021 10:47:28 PM

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We won the battle tonight of who could suck less! What a sloppy game. Daniels played great and if he is gone we are looking at a long rest of the season. Hellems hit a few big shots. I didn’t understand why once Daniels went out of the game and we couldn’t score Funderburk was stuck on the bench for so long?? If Daniels is out we are gonna need Funderburk to pick up the scoring.

1/27/2021 11:09:51 PM

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^^^ right.

And to be clear, I wasn’t even really defending BB. I agree that he’s not very good! I just shitting on Harris.

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" Don't act like BB didn't have primary ball handling responsibilities for a bunch of that year. Call him a shooting guard all you want, he brought the ball up the court as much as our PG... he had more minutes than Markell did that year FFS. Give me a fuckin break already"


Of course BB played the point some. But he was not the primary PG on that team. That’s part of why he played more minutes. In theory, he can handle the ball to give Markell (or this year, the freshmen) a break and then when a true PG is in, he can play off the ball. Obviously we all agree that he doesn’t exactly do those things well. But I don’t think it’s a giant mystery why he plays when he does. For example, in that ‘18-19 season with Harris on the team, BB was basically the only shooter we had (yes, I know he was never Ralston Turner or Scott Wood). Markell shot well, but he couldn’t play off the ball. Bryce was solid from 3, but was better putting the ball on the floor.

He played 19 mins last night. He had 0 turnovers. He brought little to the table for those 19 minutes, so don’t confuse this as me thinking BB is great. Allen, on the other hand, played 25 minutes and had 3 turnovers and shot 2/8.

I think it’s perfectly acceptable that BB plays around 15-25 mpg this year depending on the situations he (and the team) is in. I’m not arguing that he’s awesome. He’s not.

[Edited on January 28, 2021 at 7:44 AM. Reason : H]

1/28/2021 7:43:55 AM

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"I’m not arguing that he’s awesome. He’s not."


To be clear, nobody is arguing that (you hear, PB?)

1/28/2021 9:59:14 AM

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https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina-state/Article/Devon-Daniels-injury-torn-ACL-NC-State-Wolfpack-Basketball-160104231/

1/28/2021 5:23:22 PM

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It’s official, another rebuilding year.

1/28/2021 8:12:41 PM

Dynasty2004
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yyeaaaaa

1/28/2021 8:59:25 PM

Money_Jones
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Damn.

1/28/2021 9:03:45 PM

DonMega
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damn, sorry devon, that really sucks.

1/28/2021 11:39:35 PM

packboozie
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Keatts hinted at the idea he could come back. Can't imagine him wanting to do a sixth year of college.

1/29/2021 11:55:33 AM

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"It’s official, another rebuilding year."


That was already pretty clear to me at least. Lost three in a row then scrape by to barely beat WF?

1/29/2021 12:31:22 PM

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Dj out tonight

1/31/2021 5:21:14 PM

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Yikes. Not really looking forward to this game.

1/31/2021 5:29:25 PM

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Skipping it, for mental health

1/31/2021 5:46:11 PM

TreeTwista10
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Braxton might drop 20 tonight

1/31/2021 6:03:22 PM

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From the box score, it looks like we have the deeper bench tonight.

1/31/2021 6:23:48 PM

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Moore ain't got no bitch in him

1/31/2021 6:39:46 PM

TreeTwista10
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the fuck kind of mask is Boeheim wearing

1/31/2021 6:44:38 PM

packboozie
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^You would think a nose-picker like Jimmy B would wear one that would cover that.

Guess we needed our two best players to be out to play team ball?

47 points in a half, fuck that zone.

1/31/2021 6:51:20 PM

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So is it the terrible matchup zone that is making our half court offense look presentable for the first time since league play started or is it the fact that Daniels doesn’t have the ball so much?

I don’t know if I can ever remember seeing this much ball movement each and every possession.

[Edited on January 31, 2021 at 6:53 PM. Reason : I like how seabron has played. ]

1/31/2021 6:51:46 PM

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Seems like this packer and durham shit is just getting worse

1/31/2021 6:59:18 PM

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All they have to do is go at Beverly's man every possession

[Edited on January 31, 2021 at 7:27 PM. Reason : Painfully obvious]

1/31/2021 7:26:29 PM

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Sorry guys. I jinxed it. 47 pt first half. 9 pts in the first 10:30 of the second half.


I’m sure it has nothing to do with shak and Hayes getting no run in the second half yet

[Edited on January 31, 2021 at 7:37 PM. Reason : K]

1/31/2021 7:30:39 PM

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somebody else has to commit that foul

1/31/2021 7:56:54 PM

jocristian
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I’m not sure how me sitting on the couch has more situational awareness than the players there. I was yelling at the screen for bates not to foul.

It’s time to turn the ball over to Hayes and shak and go through the growing pains. They barely played in the second half and while they were a bit sloppy when they were in (I’m sure that’s why they were in the Keatts doghouse), we have seen the mediocrity Allen and Beverly are getting us. Keatts can blame the losses on covid and Daniels getting injured and we can be better prepared for next year. Who knows, maybe we get some surprises from the young guys in the meantime.

Hellems and Bates played great tonight.

1/31/2021 8:03:06 PM

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We have plenty of guys that could play and foul (Gibson, Ebe, Farrar, etc.) just not smart at all. Either Keatts wasn't thinking or an assistant did not do their job.

^Mostly this. Let the young guns run.

1/31/2021 8:17:29 PM

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Also bad by Seabron to play good defense at the end and with a few seconds left on the shot clock he fouls and the shot clock reset so we had to then foul like 5 times in a row. Need to see more time for Cam and Moore, even if they do commit some dumb turnovers sometimes where they throw it right to the other team. Wonder if Funderburk tried to drive on campus with a boot on his car again? Overall better game than I was expecting, glad we fought.

1/31/2021 10:54:46 PM

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Overall thought we played good with our 2 best players out.

But man I was swearing like a sailor and punching couch pillows when Seabron committed that foul. Just unbelievably dumb. I heard Keatts say play it straight up but maybe he needed to be more clear and say (DO NOT FOUL). And maybe he did say it and we couldn't tell from the TV.

2/1/2021 11:42:49 AM

jocristian
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We played well in the first half. As has become a pattern with this team, we are either running out of gas, or are not reacting well to other teams' adjustments in the second half (probably it's both). Either way, not a great look for Keatts.

blah blah blah, depth, blah, injuries, blah, covid... same stuff everyone else has to deal with.

2/1/2021 12:31:12 PM

Bullet
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not trying to make excuses, but to be fair, Covid has affected our season more than most teams

2/1/2021 12:33:19 PM

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"Who Takes Good Shots And Who Has Good Shooters? (updated bc there were no charted games yesterday)

Representatives: @ZagMBB, @IndianaMBB, @GTMBB, @KentuckyMBB

Welcome to the #ChartParty (tm @jon_bois ) @RamblersMBB!!!

I'm working on an opponent-adjusted version of this too... https://t.co/TwGWXCs9ky"

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"thanks!

i use #ncaaHoopR (cc @recspecs730 & @msubbaiah1 for the shot data) to scrape, but transform it & store it on my own for tinkering

re:ND, they're hiding in the middle (i think i'll recode this to switch to logos soon)

you can see them more clearly on the ACC-only chart: https://t.co/m4wVdDrrh6"



[Edited on February 2, 2021 at 9:38 PM. Reason : E]

2/2/2021 9:37:08 PM

rayef3rw
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Coulda made it a little harder to find our name on that chart

2/2/2021 10:36:29 PM

justinh524
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It's because they haven't bothered to chart many of our games

2/2/2021 11:08:17 PM

rwoody
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Guys the point is we have good shooters!

2/2/2021 11:24:39 PM

jocristian
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I know it's only 2 games charted, but that seems to pass the eyeball test (assuming we are that tiny red dot next to ND).

We have above average shooters, but our offense doesn't result in them taking good, set and open shots most of the time. Maybe even BB good be useful if we could get him some open 3s.

2/3/2021 9:47:01 AM

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9pm game vs UVA? gross

2/3/2021 11:46:11 AM

Elwood
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23 points scored total. book it

2/3/2021 12:29:31 PM

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It's going to be tough tonight without our leading scorer.

Looks like all the offense will have to come from Beverly.

We have the advantage if we all start jumpin up and down and going Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo PACK PACK POWER PACK oOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

2/3/2021 7:27:47 PM

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Virginia live off points inside the arc. I bet they get those against us.

They do shoot threes. That's our main weakness defensively.

Defensively they are solid.

They are moderately tall and have lots of depth.

I like UVA vs the spread. This has all the makings of a 30 point game that might only be a 25 point spread.

2/3/2021 7:36:18 PM

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I have missed that

2/3/2021 8:07:07 PM

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This Kay Yow piece is the best thing we'll see tonight.

2/3/2021 8:59:07 PM

dmspack
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Not gonna bother to verify this but it feels like Keatts’ teams always play UVa pretty well.

2/3/2021 9:04:15 PM

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Beverly blowing by Naismith Defensive Player of the Year watch listee!

2/3/2021 9:10:13 PM

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Beverly playing well

2/3/2021 9:16:25 PM

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When they called shot clock violation on us...didn’t UVa just foul us? So shouldn’t clock have reset? Or maybe it did and we still got a violation. Idk.

2/3/2021 9:28:00 PM

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just got back from the bar a live taping of Packer and Durham, how'd we look in the 1st half?

2/3/2021 9:56:45 PM

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Thomas Allen is bad

2/3/2021 10:06:43 PM

packboozie
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Funderburk should not have came back. Dude is unmotivated. What an absolute waste. Dude could be so good.

2/3/2021 10:12:53 PM

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