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Daniels played bad in 2nd half. With Braxton out and Allen not doing much we didn’t have a 3 point threat which I think is our biggest weakness on offense. Disappointing to lose a game we led the whole time. I thought we were looking good this year but we lost to St. Louis, barely beat BC, and lost to Clemson. I would say we are an average team right now. Hope we keep improving.

1/5/2021 11:04:16 PM

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Clemson and St. Louis don't worry me too much -- both are very strong teams and have a reasonable explanation for losing given the circumstances. And both games we nearly won/led for most of the time but lost due to those extenuating circumstances. If we can get the rest of our team to stay healthy and together then we should be strong.

1/6/2021 12:54:39 AM

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Hopefully tonight puts all the BB hate to rest for good.



[Edited on January 6, 2021 at 12:56 AM. Reason : and we should use the turnover bone in basketball]

1/6/2021 12:55:52 AM

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^^^St. Louis is probably the second best team we've played and we were just short handed and ran out of gas after being off so long for covid stuff. so i don't put much stock in that L at all. and clemson is probably the best team we've played and we lost in OT on the road. we led all game and should've won the game, but those two losses really don't bother me at all.

we're fine. i think this is easily KK's best team. we aren't perfect and clearly had some half court offense issues in the final ~6 mins of regulation vs Clemson. the freshmen guards are showing tons of promise and Bates' development has been so impressive. i think we're definitely better than average. not to mention the ACC is there for the taking this year...no reason we can't be in the mix for a top 4 finish and the double bye in the ACCT (assuming the ACCT is played normally this year, who knows!)

1/6/2021 7:09:47 AM

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"Hopefully tonight puts all the BB hate to rest for good."


Because we looked better without him???

The officiating was fine. A few bad calls, but not even close to why we blew it. We took our foot off the gas and tried to take the air out of the ball. We shot 24 free throws to their 9. Other way around you all are crying even worse.

[Edited on January 6, 2021 at 6:13 PM. Reason : Biggest concerns are that Farrar, Ebe, Gibson aren't ACC caliber players, Seabron isn't there yet]

1/6/2021 6:12:34 PM

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^agree. we looked way better without bb. he would have gotten eaten alive by clemson's trap. shak and cam need to play a majority of minutes going forward.

The officiating was fine for most of the game (although I still think they let them play too physical ala UVA). The terrible calls were at key moments down the stretch. Of course it wasn't why we lost, but it was frustrating nonetheless.

We lost because our half-court offense gets hella static when the pressure heats up. I don't know if it's a system problem or an execution problem, but this has been a feature of Keatts' teams since he has been here. It's about as frustrating as watching Herb's scoreless stretches back in the day.

farrar is definitely not gonna play much and I can see him being a transfer, but gibson could grow into a contributor.

1/6/2021 7:11:47 PM

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A healthy BB means Daniels doesn’t have to play 45 minutes. Which means Daniels maybe doesn’t commit 3 awfulness TOs down the stretch. Cam Hayes also didn’t handle the defensive pressure well at times. He was clearly bothered by it. BB could’ve helped there.

We went 7 deep last night (Seabron was 8 and he played like 2 mins I think). BB would’ve helped no doubt. He wouldn’t have scored 20. And probably would’ve gotten beat on D some (the guys playing got beat some too). But it’s hard to win an ACC road game going 7 deep with 2 freshmen point guards.

Clemson’s top 5 defense in the nation might have something to do with our weak O down the stretch.

[Edited on January 6, 2021 at 7:22 PM. Reason : A]

1/6/2021 7:21:14 PM

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^I agree BB could have helped last night, but the problem is that Keatts is in love with the kid. If he plays, he plays 30+ minutes and those are minutes that shak and cam should be on the floor. Let him play <20 min off ball spelling daniels and one of the freshmen. That'd be a perfect role for him.

1/6/2021 7:55:43 PM

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yeah, people acting like depth is a bad thing

1/6/2021 7:55:53 PM

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^^ BB has played >30 mins in only 2 games this year and one of those was the SLU game when Hayes was out.

we’re putting a lot of faith in freshmen PGs. Especially considering we didn’t have much of an OOC schedule to get them more experience. I like Shak and I like Hayes and they’ve mostly played well this year. But we need BB to provide leadership and experience. And like you said...BB isn’t just in to give Hayes and Moore a break. He can replace Allen and Daniels too. When they’re all healthy, we have back court depth and that’s a real strength of the team

[Edited on January 7, 2021 at 10:03 AM. Reason : A]

1/7/2021 10:03:00 AM

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would love to see Hayes step up and put together a complete game. there have been some flashes, but there is something off confidence or maybe seeing/clicking with the flow of the game. he def looks good when we are running breaks.

1/7/2021 11:52:14 AM

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What channel the game on today? ESPN app says ACCNX, which usually means it’s blacked out locally on ACCN. So fox sports, or is it actually on a broadcast tv?

1/9/2021 8:00:20 AM

dmspack
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I think rsn which fox sports south or whatever

1/9/2021 8:33:12 AM

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Don't use ESPN app to determine the channel for the game. It will NEVER tell you if a game is on RSN and then you will get pissed off when it is blacked out on ESPN's streaming service.

ESPN app is garbage, just like all ESPN content.

https://theacc.com/sports/2020/12/31/MBB_RSN_MIA_NCSU_21.aspx

1/9/2021 9:43:25 AM

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^i didnt, I used it to determine it wasn’t espn. I used Tww to determine what channel it was actually on, and appreciate the answer! On a semi side note, why does it seem damn near fucking impossible to get an an answer to what channel the game is on by googling it?

1/9/2021 10:08:06 AM

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Going to gopack and looking at the official schedule is usually a good bet. But that’s about the only thing I ever go to gopack for

1/9/2021 10:35:53 AM

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Sooooo either have to have cable or find some stream today?

1/9/2021 10:44:55 AM

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Thuuz app for android the number one solution for this. You can put in your cable provider and it will tell you the exact channel.

1/9/2021 11:16:09 AM

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^^yeah

Beverly is starting

1/9/2021 12:02:25 PM

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We have more turnovers than points

1/9/2021 12:09:05 PM

ohmy
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someone post a streaaaam

1/9/2021 12:26:01 PM

dmspack
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Bates is a beast. Looks like a future pro.

1/9/2021 12:29:23 PM

yrey
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Daniels should be benched at this point.

1/9/2021 12:37:51 PM

dmspack
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Seems like we’re jacking up a lotta 3s

1/9/2021 12:44:34 PM

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Too many turnovers

1/9/2021 12:51:47 PM

yrey
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Gotta sharpen up that half court offense. If team is not knocking down 3s and getting easy layups, they look lost.

1/9/2021 12:53:33 PM

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Great defense generating steals but sloppy as shit. Good thing Lykes is out.

1/9/2021 12:55:51 PM

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Great on-ball individual defense, our team defense is still not great

1/9/2021 12:58:36 PM

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Miami ain’t good. But they’ve also managed to play every acc team close so far (vt, Clemson, unc)

1/9/2021 1:00:40 PM

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because Jim Larrydavid is a good coach

1/9/2021 1:05:47 PM

dmspack
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^he is a good coach.

Braxton on Timberlake is a bad matchup. Need to adjust

1/9/2021 1:10:33 PM

packboozie
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Braxton on any p5 player is a bad matchup

1/9/2021 1:20:21 PM

yrey
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Have no flow to half court offense.

1/9/2021 1:23:17 PM

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When a big man hedges a screen a bumps the guard in the open court 35’ from the basket...that should be a foul. Miami is doing it almost every time. You can hedge without fouling. But it feels like a lot of unnecessary contact from Miami’s big guy

1/9/2021 1:26:36 PM

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Can't buy a basket

1/9/2021 1:27:13 PM

dmspack
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Daniels is having a terrible game

1/9/2021 1:28:03 PM

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DJ and Daniels get called out by commentators for underperforming. Score next 6 points. I like it.

[Edited on January 9, 2021 at 1:34 PM. Reason : Now 8]

1/9/2021 1:33:37 PM

yrey
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How does Daniel miss so many layups, lol.

1/9/2021 1:43:04 PM

yrey
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And then Daniels makes a tough 3!

1/9/2021 1:46:14 PM

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Make yo Free Throws!!

1/9/2021 1:50:24 PM

dmspack
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Missed FTs. Same story every game

1/9/2021 1:51:00 PM

scotieb24
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It's Allen

1/9/2021 1:53:20 PM

scotieb24
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Ughhhhh

1/9/2021 1:55:29 PM

dmspack
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Half court O has been dreadful. So obviously when we need a bucket with under a minute left it’s painful.

1/9/2021 1:57:01 PM

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Allen 4/5 on 3. Everybody else is 3/18. Damn.

Couldn’t get the ball inside to Funderburk or Bates much at all either. Just a bad game.

We couldn’t get any transition going in 2H.

1/9/2021 1:59:03 PM

yrey
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This was painful to watch. Team played into Miami's game plan and seemed like they didn't even want to be there. When we played up temp we took the head back and then took the foot of the gas. The next couple of games will only get more tougher than Miami.

1/9/2021 1:59:57 PM

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I think Miami did a good job not letting us get into transition. Miami was content to let us crash the boards and they get back on D. And limiting turnovers. That kept us from getting in transition.

I think that’s a key to beating us. Make us play half court and rely on our inexperienced guards to make plays

1/9/2021 2:21:07 PM

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Like I said after the Clemson game, we are an average team unfortunately. We had one 3 point threat in Allen today and no inside game on offense. And lots more dumb turnovers today.

1/9/2021 10:31:13 PM

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We have been winning every game this year with about 5 minutes to go and are 6-3.

At the end of the year when we are a bubble team again you can point to this one. Lost at home to Miami without their two best players.

I really hope Cam Hayes doesn't leave but I would. He's sitting behind the worst four year starter in NCSU history.

1/10/2021 1:04:04 AM

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Quote :
" I really hope Cam Hayes doesn't leave but I would. He's sitting behind the worst four year starter in NCSU history."


1/10/2021 7:23:03 AM

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