BigEgo, then you might as well point out that T Mobile is rolling out HSPA+ this year which is 21 mbps.

AT&T is CONSTANTLY proven to be one of the worst networks.... not sure why you would try and defend that.

5/21/2010 9:39:18 AM

^agreed. although i've had very little problem with them.. they certainly don't have the greatest network. and i've been a customer of theirs since before they bought Cingular.

Quote :

"Stupid? AT&T's network upgrades are bringing their 3G speeds to 7.2 MB/s (faster than Sprint's 4g)"

doesn't really matter if you don't have service now does it? also, just because it's capable of 7.2 doesn't mean you'll ever see close to that.

5/21/2010 9:54:05 AM

I'm assuming by the zero response that there are no incredibles anywhere.

Guess I gotta win one of the three they're giving away at BGR.

lol

5/21/2010 10:03:59 AM

Quote :

""The cut/paste in the browser is still pretty horrible in 2.1. Hopefully they figure out something that works for 2.2. ""

It's just the default browser.

I use Skyfire and I love the copy/paste implementation, just click on the down arrow in the upper right, click on "Select Text" once you select the text and lift your finger it's automatically copied to clipboard. (plus it has Flash video support) - http://www.skyfire.com/

I know AK Notepad has good cut/copy/paste support too.

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM. Reason : ,]

5/21/2010 10:40:34 AM

The swipe to copy is still crap. It's much better implemented in the native browser for senseui though. It actually gives you two tabs to drag.

5/21/2010 11:09:10 AM

it's meant to be quick & efficient, typically it's quicker for me to swipe to copy, paste, then just delete what i don't want, than it is to click and drag two tabs to get it perfect. heck most of the time i get what i want to copy in the first swipe.

5/21/2010 11:18:58 AM

Quote :

"Is the incredible in stock at any of the local VZ stores? Please say yes, someone. Please? "

Lol... no... They might start trickling in around the 29th - 1st week of june. That's when they're supposedly sending out the ones that are backordered now, so they might send a few out to stores too.

I've heard rumors that Best Buy is getting a couple a week, but not from enough people that I'd believe it.

I ordered mine in the vzw store on the 12th, and no news on it yet

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 11:39 AM. Reason : ']

5/21/2010 11:33:50 AM

Oh noes, the nexus one dropped to 180 bucks through vzw, tmobile, and sprint. Still 530 for ATT I'm too much of a whore to change carriers.

5/21/2010 1:02:11 PM

i don't know if i can justfiy $80 a month phone bills but i really want an incredible. i wish verizon wasnt so expensive.

5/21/2010 1:12:56 PM

Quote :

"Oh noes, the nexus one dropped to 180 bucks through vzw, tmobile, and sprint. Still 530 for ATT I'm too much of a whore to change carriers."

huh? N1 isn't available through verizon or sprint at all. Verizon has the Incredible, and Sprint will have the EVO

5/21/2010 2:01:13 PM

Quote :

"i don't know if i can justfiy $80 a month phone bills but i really want an incredible. i wish verizon wasnt so expensive."

Uh what discount are you smoking and can I have some? I've got a 20% work discount on my 900min/250texts/unlimited data&web plan and it comes to $100/mo after taxes and fees.

5/21/2010 2:20:55 PM

i updated my wifes droid to 2.1. for some reason she lost a lot of contacts. don't know what that;s about.

5/21/2010 2:55:46 PM

I've got 450 nationwide minutes, 250 txt, and unlimited data for $67/month after discount

You're paying a lot for those extra 450 mins

5/21/2010 2:56:11 PM

Quote :

" Uh what discount are you smoking and can I have some?"

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/splash/plansingleline.jsp?lid=//global//plans//individual

data- $30/month
450min voice- $40/month
250 text- $5/month

so about $80 a month which is more than i am currently paying for more minutes, unlimited text and unlimited data through t-mobile. i don't need many minutes, most of my talking is nights or weekends so 450 minutes is fine.

are state students eligible for discounts? or state employees?

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 3:08 PM. Reason : .]

5/21/2010 3:07:50 PM

he's probably paying 29.99 for 500 AT minutes and unlimited data/text. I'm paying about 55 for 1250 w/unlimited data and text and it's going to shoot up to 80 when I spring for the Evo -- even after adding a 23% discount for 450 AT.

SERO is ftw, but it's finally time to move on.

Aight, scratch that, but still semi-relevant.

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 3:09 PM. Reason : .]

5/21/2010 3:08:15 PM

what is sero?

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 3:25 PM. Reason : ah sprint, nevermind]

5/21/2010 3:24:49 PM

^^ Im in the same boat. Ive been enjoying my $30 SERO plan for almost 6 years, but I think its time to move on now that Sprint is limiting which phones can be used with it. It was great when I was a poor broke college kid though.

Im sticking with the cheapest everything plan since I dont talk much....lots of emails and texts though. And with the Anymobile Anytime feature I may never use a single minute. June 4th cant come soon enough.

5/21/2010 3:35:21 PM

just went to THE SHACK to pre-order the EVO and setting up the sprint account it says i have an unpaid balance or something. we call up sprint and apparently someone used my social to create an account. now i have to go through this whole fraud investigation crap... not to mention finding out if they used my social for other things.

5/21/2010 3:44:23 PM

^ holy crap!

5/21/2010 3:45:45 PM

so state employees get a 22% discount, looks like i might make the switch

5/21/2010 3:59:07 PM

^^^good thing you finally found out though

5/21/2010 4:29:28 PM

nevermind

[Edited on May 21, 2010 at 4:35 PM. Reason : .]

5/21/2010 4:34:35 PM

Quote :

"doesn't really matter if you don't have service now does it? also, just because it's capable of 7.2 doesn't mean you'll ever see close to that."

Just about everywhere I go I have 3G service. Then again I live in Charlotte which is one of the first 5 cities to receive AT&T's network upgrade. When it's done I'll see that 7.2 more than likely. On their regular 3G network I usually see about 3 MB/s

Quote :

"I use Skyfire and I love the copy/paste implementation, just click on the down arrow in the upper right, click on "Select Text" once you select the text and lift your finger it's automatically copied to clipboard. (plus it has Flash video support)"

I like Skyfire, but since I don't have any chance of Flash support before they give Backflips 2.1 I use Dolphin Browser. For whatever reason the only browser that lets me log into TWW is my least favorite: Opera (I hate opera)!

5/21/2010 4:35:42 PM

Yeah I'm using the Dolphin HD browser on the Droid and it's smooth.

5/21/2010 5:55:12 PM

Dolphin Browser scrolls so damn smooth, and it provides a better web experience for my backflip since I have 1.5 instead of 2.1

5/21/2010 6:07:47 PM

Quote :

"^^ Im in the same boat. Ive been enjoying my $30 SERO plan for almost 6 years, but I think its time to move on now that Sprint is limiting which phones can be used with it. It was great when I was a poor broke college kid though. Im sticking with the cheapest everything plan since I dont talk much....lots of emails and texts though. And with the Anymobile Anytime feature I may never use a single minute. June 4th cant come soon enough."

Yeah, I had to switch to 49.99 when I started using the phone for work. I crunched the numbers last night and the ED450 with 23% discount won't put me out as much as I thought. There's no way that I do 450 minutes to landlines every month and they're letting me keep my Pick Three. So I'm definitely good on minutes. Also the rep said that off-network roaming should be included as well. So really the only thing I'm losing is the amazing customer support department that Employee Accounts offers and well, eCare is a close second, so hopefully I'll still continue to deal with them.

I just got a hit on Craigs for my TP2, let's hope it's not someone wanting to send me 5,200 for it because I really don't have the time to remail a 5,000 cashiers check to anyone. Even if they do pay for the postage.

5/21/2010 7:01:12 PM

the HTC Vision rumors with the hardware keyboard - i want to wait for that thing!

anyone else with me?

5/21/2010 7:04:21 PM

oh this is awesome!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/21/shipping-htc-evo-4g-rom-released-into-the-wild/

5/21/2010 7:37:24 PM

^ nice, should work on the Incredible...then we could record 720p video

5/21/2010 7:56:46 PM

Quote :

"are state students eligible for discounts? or state employees?"

Im guessing you were asking about Verizon, but with the EVO coming out, I thought Id post this if anyone hadnt seen it:
http://www.studentrate.com/STUDENTRATE/ncsu/get-ncsu-student-deals/Sprint-Student-Rate-Member-Discount--/0
According to this site, NCSU students get:
15% Discount Monthly Recurring Fees
Waived Activation Fee
$50.00 Credit to New Accounts
Im guessing you wont be able to preorder at Best Buy though, so youd have to deal with the mail-in rebate.
http://www7.acs.ncsu.edu/hr/wolfperks/electronics.asp
This has discounts for all four major providers for NC State employees (23% for Sprint). Typing in my school address tells me Im eligible...not sure if there would be some other proof of eligibility required later in the signup process though.

5/22/2010 1:53:15 AM

no sprint coverage where i am

5/22/2010 2:09:41 PM

http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/22/googles-gift-already-on-resale-sprints-htc-evo-4g-pops-up-on-ebay-craigslist/

5/22/2010 7:05:45 PM

New Android phone. Possibly the Motorola Shadow..



http://www.androidcentral.com/might-be-next-droid

5/22/2010 7:18:45 PM

Rumored specs of the Shadow and comparison video of the 3430 which is in the droid and the new 3630.

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=18384

Quote :

"4.1" TFT WVGA screen Texas Instruments OMAP 3630 45nm Processor clocked at 720 MHz Android 2.2 by launch possible, otherwise Android 2.1 with Moto BLUR 8 MP camera 720p recording 1080p output via HDMI port ~9mm thick (For reference, iPhone 3GS is 12.3mm) Releasing in July "

Anyone bored and want to try froyo on their N1?
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/05/22/nexus-one-froyo-update-released/

[Edited on May 22, 2010 at 9:12 PM. Reason : ]

5/22/2010 9:10:23 PM

Quote :

"Texas Instruments OMAP 3630 45nm Processor clocked at 720 MHz"

yay, 75% the speed of the incredible - how compelling!

5/22/2010 10:18:01 PM

if they put 2.1 with blur on it before they release 2.1 with blur on my backflip i'll be so

5/22/2010 10:19:27 PM

^^ Just because the Incredible is 1GHz doesn't necessarily make it better. Not to mention the snapdragon is highly overrated and the 3630's are supposed to be pretty damn good and have a better gpu.

Froyo walkthrough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=531mrieo2p4


[Edited on May 22, 2010 at 11:20 PM. Reason : ]

5/22/2010 11:13:15 PM

its largely the same architecture, so it seems like speed would make a big difference.

firmware would also. are you saying that the firmware is better on the 720MHz phone?

[Edited on May 23, 2010 at 9:05 AM. Reason : s]

5/23/2010 9:03:05 AM

Anyone running Froyo yet? It's being rolled out OTA for N1s, no word on any other phones getting it yet. I've been on 3G all weekend and haven't gotten it yet, so no clue what their process is for prioritizing who gets it when.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/22/breaking-android-2-2-froyo-ota-now-available-for-the-nexus-one/

5/23/2010 10:41:15 AM

Quote :

"if they put 2.1 with blur on it before they release 2.1 with blur on my backflip i'll be so "

you bought a backflip.

lol.

5/23/2010 11:32:22 AM

fucking junk

5/23/2010 1:19:09 PM

The backflip isn't nearly as bad of a phone as most people make it out to be. Motoblur is a decent ROM, and it was and for whatever reason still is the only android I could get on AT&T without paying full price for the phone. Yeah the N1 >>>>>>>> the backflip, but paying 99 bucks for a backflip works >>>> better than paying ~550 right now

5/23/2010 6:36:07 PM

How is the eris, I am considering it as a cheaper alternative to save some money. Will it be able to run most apps or is it stuck on an old version of android.

5/23/2010 6:48:55 PM

^^ Yeah the Backflip isn't so bad except for all crippling that AT&T did to it.

5/23/2010 6:57:35 PM

the eris has 2.1 released I believe.

there's nothing special about the hardware. the 528 MHz processor and ~288MB of RAM have been in phones for a while. i'm sure bare minimum someone will eventually make a froyo ROM for it if HTC doesn't.

^you can do non-market through ADB, and supposedly it's possible to root it (I think you need special developer tools though because none of the tricks that have worked on other phones work on the backflip) only other thing missing is google search widget, and it's pretty easy to just use a shortcut to my browser whose default search is google instead of the yahoo widget. I'd love to be able to root or have AT&T leave some bloatware off the 2.1 ROM in development, but I'll be fine with a 2.1 similar to the experience I get with 1.5

5/23/2010 6:59:30 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/htc-evo-4g-rooted-in-record-time-video/

Quote :

"HTC Evo 4G rooted in record time (video) By Vladislav Savov posted May 24th 2010 3:47AM We're still a good dozen days away from its public release, but the Evo 4G has already been given a rooting makeover. Google dished out Evo handsets to all the lucky (so lucky!) attendees of its blowout I/O 2010 event, and a trio of those visitors rolled up their sleeves and decided to get down and intimate with the phone over the weekend. The product of their labor is at this stage just a few screenshots and a blurry video after the break, but fear not, we're sure details of the hack will be forthcoming promptly. "

5/24/2010 7:15:29 AM

^ and of course at the end of that post was this: "At this time, we believe that this specific exploit cannot be applied to Incredible."

5/24/2010 8:40:55 AM

I have my wife's Nexus running Froyo, rooted AND the incredibly easy task of tricking hulu into working also.

I watched Modern Family on her phone... played a LOT of Flash games from websites. Froyo is amazing. Seriously what I was expecting.

5/24/2010 9:18:24 AM

fudge i want my evo so i can start playing with android

5/24/2010 10:20:35 AM

http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/24/how-to-get-hulu-running-on-android-2-2-for-now/

hulu on android 2.2

5/24/2010 4:24:18 PM