Van Alden really fucked himself over pretty good there.

11/1/2011 9:45:29 AM

Quote :

"i've been watching this show since the beginning and i just now realized that kelly macdonald (margaret schroeder) was in trainspotting."

she also played Llewelyn's gf/wife or whatever Carla Jean in No Country for Old Men

she had a whack southern accent in that one

11/1/2011 12:17:12 PM

Question: Last week or the week before... I seem to recall Van Alden talking to his wife on the phone. She said that she had called his apartment building and the landlord told her that he didn't live there anymore. Van Alden seemed kind of surprised and said he was going to look into it but nothing else was said about it. Anyone know what the deal with that was?

11/1/2011 12:18:34 PM

^ believe he was staying under a different name

11/1/2011 12:25:46 PM

^^ she was also the ghost of raven claw in the last harry potter

11/1/2011 1:22:53 PM

I thought Van Alden had moved across town with the prostitute which is why his wife couldn't find him at the boarding house. Did I watch that wrong entirely? (possible...)

11/1/2011 9:03:17 PM

Van Alden was staying there under the name Mueller (or something similar), which is why when his wife asked for Van Alden she was told no one by that name was staying there.

11/1/2011 9:51:18 PM

that's what i get for doing multiple things while watching it later... :-/ wonder what else i've missed entirely or misinterpreted this season

11/2/2011 11:31:27 AM

Great Van Alden episode for once.

11/7/2011 11:52:44 AM

I'm getting tired of Margaret.

11/7/2011 1:04:48 PM

Van Alden sucks. And I am starting to hate Eli as much as I hated Tara on True Blood.

So... Jimmy immediately regretted calling the hit on Nucky. In the last scene, he walks up to Nucky in the club and whispers, " It doesn't matter if you're wrong or right... you just have to make a decision." Then gets shot 5 seconds later. Shot in the hand. Is this assassin really that bad of a shot? Or was that on purpose? And did the assassin get shot dead? And who was the dude Owen strangled in the pub bathroom?

11/7/2011 2:13:21 PM

It may have passed through his hand and hit him in the chest.

11/7/2011 2:33:16 PM

if you're going to assassinate someone, you don't do it in a crowded group of people. any number of things can go wrong. especially if they have a hired gun coming from Chicago, i would think it would have been planned better.

you need to wait until Nucky's entourage isn't surrounding him, and get him when he is most vulnerable.

^^ i don't think he was a bad shot, it's just that he could only get one shot off, and Nucky's hand took the bullet.

sucks to watch an episode, hear them talking about killing Nucky, and sit the whole time wondering how it will fail because you know they won't kill off Nucky, at least not in season 2 with more seasons on the way.

11/7/2011 2:35:29 PM

I could see them killing off Nucky so that Steve Buscemi can get back to his true passion of bit parts in Adam Sandler films.

11/7/2011 2:36:46 PM

Well if they are sticking to the real person Nucky is based on then he's living for another 40 years.

11/7/2011 2:40:01 PM

^^haha

^they've said he's a loosely based character, and they won't let history write the script for the character. Capone, Lucciano, Lansky...they are not loosely based at all, so for example you know Capone will be running Chicago somewhat soon, depending on the show's timeline.

11/7/2011 2:42:58 PM

Nucky ducked (throwing his hand up) and the bullet went through his hand. He's like a cheetah

11/7/2011 3:30:24 PM

Quote :

"And who was the dude Owen strangled in the pub bathroom?"

I believe he was one of the Black and Tans per their pre-murder discussion.

11/7/2011 3:30:27 PM

^dude's fingers got sliced off...awesome!

11/7/2011 11:03:38 PM

Nucky just got hit in the hand, you can tell from the scene where's he's lying there, and all anyone is doing is wrapping up that hand.

I think Jimmy's little scene with Nucky right before the hitman shows up was a subtle way to warn Nucky of what was coming. There's no way Nucky would have been as alert to his surroundings if Jimmy hadn't done what he did. Jimmy cares too much for Nucky to really want him dead.

I'm also a little tired of Margaret.

11/8/2011 7:45:44 AM

what's the general feeling in regards to jimmy's mom and lucky... pure lust? ulterior motives?

11/8/2011 9:08:41 AM

Agreed that the Margaret scenes in Brooklyn were annoying.

I think Lucky and Jimmy's mom have something planned. You could tell the way she was trying to convince Jimmy it was okay to put the hit on Nucky and that he didn't want to disappoint his friends. Since when does she give a shit about them.

I hope Eli dies this season.

11/8/2011 9:16:04 AM

or at least swallows his own teeth

11/8/2011 9:18:10 AM

I'm sure she still holds it against Nucky and this is her way to get her revenge

11/8/2011 9:23:21 AM

could Jimmy's mom be using Lucky as a surrogate to get what she can't from Jimmy?

not my original thought, but it makes sense. doesn't seem like she's willing to cross that line with Jimmy

11/8/2011 9:36:04 AM

If Jimmy hadn't come and said something to Nucky, the assassin could have killed him. Nucky was looking at Jimmy as he walked away and as a result was looking right at the assassin when he pulled a gun which gave him a second to try and jump out of the way, so Jimmy definitely saved his life.

I'm not sure why Margaret is considered so hot in this show.

And Jeepin, good note on Jimmy's mother. They have a borderline incestuous relationship and Lucky is just about Jimmy's age.

11/8/2011 10:58:02 AM

I like how the cold blooded killer, Richard Harrow, is the voice of reason when Eli brings up wacking Nucky as an option.

"You'd kill your own brother???"



And I think there was more to Jimmy's message than a warning of the assassin. What kind of piss poor paid contract killer are you if you can't kill someone with the first shot point blank?

11/8/2011 11:36:24 AM

I'm thinking Jimmy botched it to let Nucky know "look fool, I could've had you killed. Let's end the bullshit"

11/8/2011 1:10:55 PM

^seems to me Nucky would simply take it as Jimmy being overconfident, stupid, incompetent, and in over his head in general.

11/8/2011 8:39:58 PM

Laughed pretty hard when nucky told van alden that he couldnt go wrong with a name from the bible.

11/8/2011 8:44:57 PM

I'm enjoying these Manny Horvitz scenes.

11/8/2011 9:58:32 PM

Was there a new episode last night?

11/8/2011 10:40:28 PM

Nevermind. Stupid DVR recorded the same episode that aired on Sunday but listed it as "Battle of the Century" which airs in two weeks.

11/9/2011 8:14:10 PM

I don't think Jimmy was warning Nucky, I think he was pointing Nucky out to the assassin and also blocking Nucky's view. The wince on Jimmy's face when he hears "he's still alive!" as he leaves tells me he wanted Nucky dead.

11/12/2011 7:00:24 AM

People are terrible at assassinations on this show.

11/21/2011 1:52:33 PM

a good assassin is never seen. why not put Harrow on these hits? he's a damn good sniper. i just don't get it. two botched assassinations in three episodes is a little ridiculous.

11/21/2011 2:07:05 PM

HERPA DERP DERP I'M GOING TO MISS YOU WITH A SHOTGUN FROM SIX FEET AWAY

11/21/2011 2:18:12 PM

I knew Munya wasn't going to die because they haven't resolved the fact that he wants his $5 (thousand) lafta dollar bucks from Jimmy. Not that that makes another botched assassination any more realistic; it doesn't.

Did anyone notice in the "next week on Boardwalk Empire" thing that...




DON'T LOOK AHEAD IF YOU DIDN'T WATCH THE "NEXT WEEK ON..." FOR LAST NIGHT'S EPISODE












Munya was shooting down at someone/something inside Jimmy's house? Or at least it looked an awful lot like Jimmy's house. Hope that's just Waxey Gordon or one of his chronies, because I don't want Jimmy, Richard, or Jimmy's hot-ass wife to die yet (want more lesbian sex/threesome scenes from her before they off her).

11/21/2011 3:51:41 PM

NEXT WEEK ON BOARDWALK EMPIRE

A CHARACTER SURVIVES A GUNSHOT TO THE ARM

11/21/2011 3:56:43 PM

haha...probably

kind of amazing that some of the most powerful gangsters in the country can't land a fatal shot or can't hire someone that can land a fatal shot.

Except for on poor Mr. McGarrigle. Kinda felt bad for that tall, Irish bastard.

[Edited on November 21, 2011 at 4:11 PM. Reason : 3]

11/21/2011 4:06:14 PM

no better way to blend the lines of fictional story telling and historical figures than with botched assassination attempts.

11/21/2011 4:30:52 PM

are we to assume no one gives a damn that the alderman Eli murdered has disappeared? he brutally murdered the guy, and not a fuck was given. he hasn't even been mentioned.

11/21/2011 5:00:55 PM

I thought the whole irish scene was bad ass when nucky was driving back. Shows how bad ass the real ira is.

11/21/2011 5:20:01 PM

^I don't mean to get all nitpicky, but these distinctions are actually really important in Ireland's history: the Real IRA did not actually form until the late 90s. The IRA has undergone many changes throughout Ireland's history; since these guys are fighting against the British in the Irish War of Independence, they would be members of the original IRA. The original IRA eventually became the "anti-Treatyites" (or anti-treaty IRA), which became the provisional IRA (it was in this iteration of the IRA that Bobby Sands' famous hunger strike took place in Northern Ireland), which became the Real IRA in the late 90s.

I might have some of that mixed up somewhere, but I don't think so. I've been reading up on the IRA since seeing the movie Hunger, which is about Bobby Sands.

Still, though, all iterations of the IRA are fucking badass.

Sorry, back to Boardwalk...

^^I was wondering about that as well. Kind of a big hole in the storytelling this season.

[Edited on November 21, 2011 at 6:03 PM. Reason : /]

11/21/2011 5:57:43 PM

Nucky mentioned he was missing.

11/22/2011 4:19:24 AM

Questions:

1) When did Jimmy make fun of Harrow? Harrow was asking him why he would make fun of him if he was his friend but I don't seem to recall that happening?

2) Why did Jimmy throw Doyle off the balcony in the previous episode?

3) Is Jimmy having Waxy kill Horowitz just to eliminate the money/alcohol debt that he owes him?

11/22/2011 8:35:55 AM

1) I think Harrow was referring to when Jimmy promised him he would meet a nice girl and settle down, which Harrow seemed to take as a patronizing comment.

2) Jimmy has a short temper, and Doyle had it coming although I think his anger was towards the jew butcher guy at that particular time.

3) Jimmy needs to eliminate threats before what happened to nucky happens to him

11/22/2011 8:51:32 AM

Jimmy's ego is getting too big to "worry" about a $5000 debt so he tries to take out Horwitz instead of cutting him in on the deal or settling the debt honorably.

11/22/2011 10:06:24 AM

Munya did call Jimmy, a boy who runs behind his father and doesn't get his hands dirty, after the botched assassination attempt on Nucky.

11/22/2011 12:02:24 PM

Jimmy seems to be letting the power get to his head pretty damn quickly. Not sure they handled that transition smoothly enough; I would've liked to have seen him start off as a more humble leader as opposed to him being so bratty and unscrupled a leader right off the bat.

11/23/2011 11:20:19 AM