Bernie has won 56% of delegates outside of southern states. If that pattern continues, including Hillary's likely blowout in Mississippi, Bernie should finish well ahead (2259-1792 by my math). Obviously that's a huge if, but there is a lot to be optimistic about.

3/6/2016 8:37:21 PM

'California Dreamin' is right.

That's a helluva thing to extrapolate to the entire country.

3/6/2016 9:30:32 PM

haha holy shit you can't be serious

anyway, congrats to the almost 20 million white folks on food stamps. you aren't actually poor! only black people can know what poor is! and all you white folks living in the shitty part of town. you're actually in the hip Shi Tpa Town.

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 10:08 AM. Reason : .]

3/7/2016 10:04:11 AM

That was a bad gaffe. Probably his first one really. That would be dragged out about 6,000 times in the general.

3/7/2016 10:07:59 AM

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"haha holy shit you can't be serious anyway, congrats to the almost 20 million white folks on food stamps. you aren't actually poor! only black people can know what poor is! and all you white folks living in the shitty part of town. you're actually in the hip Shi Tpa Town."

Also, all black people know what it's like to live in the ghetto. Because that's where all black people live.

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 10:39 AM. Reason : ]

3/7/2016 10:39:27 AM

Obviously Bernie is an incredible racist. Good to see it finally acknowledged by some here.

3/7/2016 11:00:12 AM

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"you aren't actually poor! only black people can know what poor is! and all you white folks living in the shitty part of town. you're actually in the hip Shi Tpa Town."

I prefer SoDoSoPa

3/7/2016 11:30:11 AM

Anyone with a brain knows what he meant to say. It was also a ridiculous question. What are your racial blindspots? Give me a break. The only answer to give is "White people don't understand the black experience." He just tried to tie it into the poverty gap and he tripped. He talked about his own family growing up poor, he obviously does not think that poverty only affects people of color.

But of course it will be spun that way by anyone who doesn't like him.

3/7/2016 12:46:47 PM

Yeah, the ignored context here is he was telling a story where a black woman told him "you [Bernie Sanders] don't understand what police do in certain black communities..." and then he said that white people don't know what it's like to live in a ghetto (a quarter of a city in which members of a minority group live especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure)

Pretty bad gaffe all the same.

3/7/2016 12:54:45 PM

anyone who says Sanders doesn't support poor white people is uninformed or disingenuous. clearly just poor phrasing.

3/7/2016 1:01:41 PM

it's indicative of Bernie's comprehension of minority issues. he thinks he can have videos with killer mike (YOU ON MY BARBERSHOP WALL *FISTPOUND*) and repeat racist shit that a BLM protester said and win over the black vote. just because that was an anecdote he was relating doesn't make it any less awful that those words - those ideas - crossed his lips

and yes, a BLM protestor telling him white people don't know what it's like to be poor or live in ghettos is racist.

but let's drop that and concentrate on other things.

- like how he blamed wall street for flint's water.
- or how he Donald Trumps up his answers with empty words when asked how he's going to get his infrastructure plan passed.
- or how he thinks that saying he supported an auto bailout is noble despite the fact that he did actually vote against releasing the money. he believes his principles on wall street take precedence over the livelihood of the millions who work in the auto industry (how's that for caring about working class whites?)
- or how he still thinks his plan to increase taxes at the height of the recession was somehow an economically sound plan

I've said it before and I'll say it again. bernie's campaign is unicorn farts and rainbows.

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 1:21 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2016 1:18:09 PM

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"fuck off"

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 1:27 PM. Reason : V save the gifs for chit chat bruh]

3/7/2016 1:21:00 PM

your continued willful ignorance is commendable



[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 1:22 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2016 1:22:07 PM

yuuuuuuuuuuge

3/7/2016 1:24:03 PM

you're so broken I should go saddle shopping so I can take you out for a ride.

3/7/2016 1:26:14 PM

goalielax which blog do you get your talking points from?

3/7/2016 1:30:53 PM

does the washington post count?

i wrote a poem for you guys:

there was a group in support of him
the wolf web was home to some of them
it's not bernie's fault
we're so full of salt
our default response is ad hominem

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 1:39 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2016 1:38:10 PM

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"it's indicative of Bernie's comprehension of minority issues"

Bernie was right there alongside minority groups in the 60s and 70s fighting their battles with them. He continues to today, while Hillary just panders by saying what they want to hear and falling back on her husband's record (not her own), which was not the African American dream she makes it out to be.

3/7/2016 1:56:35 PM

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"goalielax which blog do you get your talking points from?"

https://www.reddit.com/r/the_donald

3/7/2016 2:08:21 PM

giddy up, little doggie

how much would you guys flip your shit about pandering if hillary clinton sat in a barber chair with a window behind her that said SWAG and fist bumped a black rapper?

3/7/2016 2:14:52 PM

tiny hands

3/7/2016 2:26:37 PM

this is great

3/7/2016 2:33:47 PM

At least they were having a real conversation about the issues. All Hillary says is she will do "Whatever she can" to make X, Y, and Z happen, without ever saying what it is she can do. Yet somehow that gets spun as substance and Bernie's actual plans get labeled as crazy.

It's as if the democratic party is ready for vision but not for action.

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 2:41 PM. Reason : =]

3/7/2016 2:41:09 PM

got it. pandering is ok so long as its done by the guy you like.

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"All Hillary says is she will do "Whatever she can" to make X, Y, and Z happen, without ever saying what it is she can do"

that's rich, considering all bernie says is he's going to do "all these amazing things" without ever saying how the hell he'd get congress to do it. it's right up there with trump saying the military would commit war crimes and murder the families of enemy combatants because he said so.

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 3:30 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2016 3:29:01 PM

goalielax, the reason why people have stopped responding to you is not because you're right, although sometimes, rarely, you are right. Nor is it because we're willfully ignorant.

it's because your points are all framed as anti-bernie as possible even when it involves misrepresenting his words and views to the point of being laughably inaccurate

also you're an insufferable asshole

you should be banned from this thread tbh

3/7/2016 3:32:39 PM

i don't think you are all willfully ignorant. in fact, the only person I have accused of willful ignorance is synapse. and his posts on the past couple of pages support that pretty clearly.

nothing I have said in this thread hasn't already been said by political commentators in places like the Washington Post and the NYT. of course, I suppose those people are all just on the wall street gravy train and protecting hillary or something. naturally, there are others who think differently, also within the pages of those publications and others. and there are people who think that bernie was right to do things like vote against the auto industry bailout money because of his wall street principles. I'm not one of them.

the problem you have isn't that I'm an asshole. It's that I'm an asshole that doesn't believe what you believe. because the assholery is present in plenty of posts in this thread that don't start with my name.

BTW. you should write more posts telling me how you ignore me. maybe one day it will actually come true. and how trumpian of you to want to ban dissenting voices.

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 3:46 PM. Reason : tbh]

3/7/2016 3:40:31 PM

WaPo and NYT consistently write anti-Bernie articles and they are consistently refuted. you're just behind the curve.

And lol Trump supporters were the same people saying Reddit was going against "free speech" for banning hate subs. This is a private website. And ya I'd def ban you from this thread for trolling

3/7/2016 3:50:24 PM

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"in fact, the only person I have accused of willful ignorance is synapse"

Because I won't waste hours reading a Reddit thread which confirms something I already know to be true? I'm ignorant of something I know to be true? Is that really your argument here?

3/7/2016 3:54:11 PM

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"WaPo and NYT consistently write anti-Bernie articles and they are consistently refuted"

lol ok

if it makes you feel better to compare someone who doesn't support bernie and is vocal about why to, say, r/coontown, by all means do it. it's just another extension of your fantasy

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"Because I won't waste hours reading a Reddit thread which confirms something I already know to be true?"

no, because you've devolved to the point where you tell anyone not in lockstep to "fuck off"

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 4:01 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2016 4:00:12 PM

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"no, because you've devolved to the point where you tell anyone not in lockstep to "fuck off""

Except you made that argument before I told your trolling ass to fuck off.

3/7/2016 4:07:08 PM

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"Stay On-Topic - Try to stick with the topic. If you have something important to say that doesn't relate to the topic, then start a new topic. If you have something useless to say, keep it to yourself. Be thoughtful/humorous - Hundreds of people browse the message board each day. Before you post something, think to yourself, "would the majority of the users want to read this?". If the answer is "no", then don't post it."

3/7/2016 4:13:57 PM

I have a pretty diverse group of Facebook friends, but I honestly find the Bernie Sanders echo chamber to be more annoying than my few redneck cousins who say they're going to vote for Trump. The majority of Sanders posts I see sound exactly like the ones I've read in this thread. They overwhelmingly ignore the glaring reality present: Sanders has a tough battle ahead and is unlikely to win. Then, they attack anyone who either points out this reality, or call them a shill for Hillary or "what's wrong with America" or whatever bullshit ad-hominem attacks they can think of. Interestingly, most of these people are under the age of 30 and white, whereas most of the Hillary supporters I know are 35 and over. One of my friends who's 45 posted something in response to a Sanders thread and brought up a great point: Nobody under 30 remembers Ralph Nader and how he cost Gore the election and ushered in 8 years of Bush in 2000. I sort of see it the same way with how Sanders supporters threaten to abstain instead of voting for Hillary.

3/7/2016 4:16:06 PM

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"They overwhelmingly ignore the glaring reality present: Sanders has a tough battle ahead and is unlikely to win. Then, they attack anyone who either points out this reality, or call them a shill for Hillary or "what's wrong with America" or whatever bullshit ad-hominem attacks they can think of. "

Nice to see you getting a dose of your own medicine. Welcome to what it's like being a Republican.

3/7/2016 4:19:03 PM

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"The majority of Sanders posts I see sound exactly like the ones I've read in this thread. They overwhelmingly ignore the glaring reality present: Sanders has a tough battle ahead and is unlikely to win."

Except nearly every single pro-Bernie person in this thread has acknowledged that his chances are slim to none

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 4:23 PM. Reason : like calling it a "tough battle" is especially generous]

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"I sort of see it the same way with how Sanders supporters threaten to abstain instead of voting for Hillary."

Those are what you call outliers.

3/7/2016 4:20:37 PM

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" Nobody under 30 remembers Ralph Nader and how he cost Gore the election and ushered in 8 years of Bush in 2000."

when the fuck did Sanders end his primary campaign and launch a 3rd party campaign for the general, how the hell did i miss that?

3/7/2016 4:26:39 PM

completely unfair comparison. Ralph Nader didn't switch his party affiliation out of political convenience.

in retrospect, it is amusing that Nader attacked Al Gore of not being environmental enough

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 4:39 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2016 4:37:23 PM

one of the trump dudes actually made something funny on reddit:
"When you're white... you don't know what it's like to be poor."
http://i.imgur.com/RXfxdtW.gifv

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 4:46 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2016 4:46:47 PM

the last time I saw that gif used that well was for the Red Wedding episode of GOT where the dude in back was a reader of the books and the two girls were show-only.

3/7/2016 5:00:04 PM

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"Except nearly every single pro-Bernie person in this thread has acknowledged that his chances are slim to none"

Um, no. Go back and re-read this very thread. It seems like a bunch of you have changed your tune within the last few days- mostly after Super Tuesday.

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"Nice to see you getting a dose of your own medicine. Welcome to what it's like being a Republican. "

Not quite sure what you mean by this. I don't actually post anything political on Facebook because I have better things to do, like comment anonymously in TWW threads.

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"when the fuck did Sanders end his primary campaign and launch a 3rd party campaign for the general, how the hell did i miss that?"

I thought you were smart. Do I really need to connect the logical dots for you, or could you try and figure it out on your own?



[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 5:14 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2016 5:10:47 PM

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"Um, no. Go back and re-read this very thread. It seems like a bunch of you have changed your tune within the last few days- mostly after Super Tuesday. "

Your words:

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"They overwhelmingly ignore the glaring reality present: Sanders has a tough battle ahead and is unlikely to win.""

You know what "present" means in this context right?

3/7/2016 5:21:07 PM

OK, you caught me. I can admit that I made a mistake by conflating all the annoying FB users in my feed that are still blindly devoted to Sanders and insisting he will win and those of you in this thread who seem to be coming to your senses as of, um, today? My bad.

3/7/2016 5:23:37 PM

I love 'ol Bern, and I gave up most hope 2-3 weeks ago...but it's not like I ever thought he had a great chance of winning the nomination. I really can't imagine many here did either, but I ain't gonna read through 50+ pages to find out.

3/7/2016 5:28:15 PM

no one on this side has changed their position. you and goalie were saying it's impossible for him to win and we're delusional for holding out on the chance.

3/7/2016 5:29:16 PM

Well, more so he said we were delusional for ever thinking he had a chance in the first place

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"To be fair, only delusional, rabid Sanders supporters actually thought he stood a chance."

3/7/2016 5:32:08 PM

No one here is saying he absolutely will win. We just don't agree that he's "done" or has no chance.

3/7/2016 5:33:03 PM

He might be done after his tone deaf comments on race

I don't at all think Sanders is racist btw, he definitely has fought for civil rights his entire life.

But Sanders needs to pick up black votes and the way to do this is to empathize with the double standards that exist, not patronize blacks as ghetto dwellers, which is how his comments sounded.

3/7/2016 6:03:28 PM

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"I thought you were smart. Do I really need to connect the logical dots for you, or could you try and figure it out on your own?"

yeah, you're really going to have to connect the dots, because it was retarded as fuck

3/7/2016 6:20:30 PM

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"Nobody under 30 remembers Ralph Nader and how he cost Gore the election and ushered in 8 years of Bush in 2000."

I find it difficult to agree with the suggestion that Ralph Nader cost Al Gore the 2000 election when voter turnout was only 51 percent that year; Al Gore would have won the 2000 election had he turned out more voters.

[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 8:33 PM. Reason : ]

3/7/2016 8:07:04 PM

^A lot of things cost Gore that election, including his failure to win his home state of TN, but the idea that Nader played "spoiler" by taking votes that would have likely gone to Gore isn't exactly new. Several people in this very thread have said that if Clinton gets the nomination instead of Sanders, they'll vote third party just to spite her. If they abstain, it essentially has a similar effect. How is this a difficult concept to understand?

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"you and goalie were saying it's impossible for him to win and we're delusional for holding out on the chance."

Right. And rest assured, we both still believe it.



[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 9:05 PM. Reason : .]

3/7/2016 9:01:04 PM

It's not difficult to understand; I just don't think that Ralph Nader should be blamed for Al Gore's inadequacies. Al Gore would have won, regardless, if he was a better candidate.

3/7/2016 9:38:36 PM