I've heard many different stories from aftermarket harnesses' inability to stand up to UV light (which is very accurate from experience. I can tear a 15 year old set of harnesses that were exposed to sunlight rather easily) to stretch/deformation limits. Racing harnesses do not have much give thus should be VERY tight when you're wearing them. The camlock argument is also true.

I believe Porsche's sold racing harnesses that were DOT approved (can still purchase these from your local dealer), they have an orange button for release where you would normally find a cam lock. They work fine. I've never seen them made of any color but black.

7/6/2012 3:34:21 PM

I remember reading somewhere that they were less safe on the street since you are unable to slump in a rollover if the roof caves in. Not sure how much truth there is to that and I hope never to find out.

7/6/2012 4:03:55 PM

My thoughts from someone who has daily driven a car with harnesses.
(94 wrangler lifted and caged)
1 they get annoying to put on, at the very least it takes you 4 times longer then putting on a normal seatbelt. And usually one of the straps is a bitch to find or caught on something.
2 if you wear them right you can't do simple things like reach the radio and ac controls
3 if you wear them wrong you might as well just have a lap belt on because when they do catch you it will be like hitting a hard surface and you will probably end up with your loved ones wishing you had a Hans device too.
4 if you have harnesses and no cage.... You are a fucking moron. The only reason I would consider a harness in a daily driver is to makes sure my head doesn't hit the cage in an accident. No cage... No harness. This would also solve slut's issue because if the roof caves in with your cage, you had a shity one. If you get in an accident with a cage and a regular shoulder belt your cage will probably kill you.

7/7/2012 6:33:45 AM

^ Yeah, I have another vehicle, so my S2000 wouldn't be daily driven, but more about driving to Autocrosses and track events, plus just cruising.

It's a bar, not a cage, so there's less risk of impacting it while not wearing a helmet, although still a risk.

Your point about wearing them right being inconvenient and wearing them wrong being pointless is spot on though.

I definitely just came to the conclusion that the S2000 needs to be all or nothing in terms of being a trackable car, and I'm not ready to deal with a tow vehicle yet, so having a hardtop car that can be tracked in basically street form will work best for me for a few years.

Yet another point about why I wish Honda built the S2000 as a coupe, heh.

7/7/2012 3:09:59 PM

i come in here to read about bmws and i see jeep this and S2K that. nice job

7/9/2012 12:56:15 PM

^ I posted in here about getting an E36 M3 and people questioned why I wasn't messing with the S2000. Deal with it

In other news, a friend of a friend is trying to get rid of a BSP prepped '97 M3 sedan. I know Ahmet prefers the sedans, anyone else have thoughts? Anyone know if the sedans have more headroom?

7/9/2012 2:07:15 PM

what is 'BSP' ?

7/9/2012 3:23:42 PM

^ SCCA AutoX "B Street Prepared" class

7/9/2012 3:49:32 PM

i don't like the look of 95% of e36 sedans including just about every m3 i've seen.

7/10/2012 8:25:31 AM

that makes me curious to know what makes the other 5% different.

7/10/2012 9:28:27 AM

I don't like the look of 100% of BigEgos posting in this thread.

7/10/2012 10:10:39 AM

^^ ditto.

7/10/2012 2:18:18 PM

the death of M brand. ultimate poser machine!

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716348

7/10/2012 4:59:21 PM

Color is a big factor.
This one looks stupid:


Not a big fan of spoilers in general, but while this one doesn't look too horrible I don't like them on sedans.


roof racks also look stupid.


this one actually looks pretty decent.


another retarded spoiler.


shit like this, stupid rims


not the biggest fan of ambered turn signals. refer clear with the amber lights.


more stupid spoilers


more stupid rims


this one actually looks good.

7/10/2012 6:39:41 PM

/carlface
the last one you posted isn't even an M with some bullshit aftermarket lights

7/10/2012 7:09:08 PM

^I never said my dislike of e36 sedans was exclusive to the m3 did I?

I'm not a big fan of the stock headlights. if I ever got a e36 for some reason, I'd probably swap the headlights for clear turn signals and angel eyes

7/10/2012 7:17:24 PM

the last one doesn't sit right

7/10/2012 7:36:50 PM

i'll give the e36 this: more than half of what i don't like about it, is just shit people did to it aftermarket. the ones i see around town usually don't look that bad outside of the fact most people don't take proper care of them.

7/10/2012 7:47:56 PM

e36 sedans are much better proportioned than the coupes. apparently they are stiffer as well (thats what she said)

also aftermarket angel eyes are awful, roof racks are great.

7/10/2012 8:06:18 PM

Quote :

"i don't like the look of 95% of e36 sedans including just about every m3 i've seen."

Sooooooo 95% of e36 sedans you see have stupid spoilers, stupid rims and/or stupid roof racks? k.

Obvious exaggeration aside, your problem is with aftermarket modifications, not with the car itself.

7/10/2012 8:12:01 PM

^and certain colors look stupid. and the amber turn signals. the 95% was a bit of hyperbole. pretty much if it isn't a black or white one that's super clean, i won't like it.

7/10/2012 8:23:37 PM

care?

7/10/2012 8:50:27 PM

Quote :

"pretty much if it isn't a black or white [or silver] one"

7/10/2012 9:06:45 PM

not a fan of silver e36s.

7/10/2012 9:39:02 PM

^

Quote :

"this one actually looks pretty decent."

7/11/2012 9:15:10 AM

Quote :

"Obvious exaggeration aside, your problem is with aftermarket modifications, not with the car itself."

Agree with this. Why bring this up at all? The same can be said for just about any car out there.

7/11/2012 10:31:45 AM

On my laptop that car looks alpina white

7/11/2012 12:27:06 PM

you mean alpine white...

7/11/2012 12:55:27 PM

^yeah, fat fingered it.

i'm looking at trading for a manual ZHP or m3.

7/11/2012 8:49:03 PM

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

USA gets 4 cyl turbo diesel!!! this is epic!

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=717786

Quote :

"BMW has confirmed that two diesel engines will be making their way to the US. One is a 2.0L single-turbo twinscroll 4 cylinder direct injection diesel engine outputting 180 HP and 280 LB-FT torque, the same stats as the N47 engine which currently powers the F30 320d and F10 520d. As for consumption and performance, the 320d, for example, achieves an impressive 52.2 combined MPG (US) (40.5 city / 61.8 hwy), with a factory claimed 7.1 secs 0-60 mph. The other diesel will be a 3.0L twinscroll 6 cylinder turbo outputting 255 HP (no official torque number yet, but expect 400+ lb-ft torque). This will be an all new engine not seen before in any other models. These engines will be paired with 8 speed automatics and make use of SCR technology (urea based "selective catalyst reduction") to meet the stringent US diesel emission standards. BMW has not yet confirmed which models will receive these engines, but they may see duty in a future 225d, 325d, 525d, 235d, 335d or 535d, as well as their counterparts in the xDrive models. The F30 3 Series lineup will likely be the first models to use the new engines. "

[Edited on July 13, 2012 at 4:36 PM. Reason : asdf]

7/13/2012 4:32:32 PM

LS3 E36 M3

somebody buy this please

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1865059

7/17/2012 5:35:21 PM

That does look kind of awesome

7/17/2012 6:26:49 PM

thats pretty cool.

7/17/2012 8:48:05 PM

^^^ I'd be seriously interested in that car...
for about half the price and without having to pick it up in Cali.

[Edited on July 17, 2012 at 9:57 PM. Reason : l]

7/17/2012 9:56:47 PM

Joined the club, we'll see how it goes. I'm liking my vehicle selection now though heh.

7/21/2012 9:37:14 PM

found a m3 I want to trade for in hickory, but I don't have the time to go get it. fuck.

7/21/2012 11:16:48 PM

^^ What kind of drugs do you sell?

7/23/2012 10:52:00 AM

bahahaha

7/23/2012 11:50:43 AM

^^ lol, that's what my friend said. I think I gotta do something about the tint...hell I'm not sure it's even legal in TN hah.

7/23/2012 2:38:44 PM

ok, this has to be the most gorgeous M3 ever.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=709679

7/24/2012 2:59:31 AM

I wish it was paint instead of vinyl. That color with a gold flake/pearlessence would be money

7/24/2012 7:51:25 AM

i'm not usually an orange car guy unless it's a Charger with a rebel flag on the roof but that looks awesome!!

7/24/2012 8:19:44 AM

why no diesels in manual?

why

7/24/2012 4:15:26 PM

I really, really, really would love a sporty Diesel manual coupe/sedan...

7/24/2012 4:41:07 PM

i'd have one as my tow vehicle if they existed

7/24/2012 7:00:12 PM

hey nigger

There is a reason they don't make them, cause niggers would tow their nigger bikes with them.

7/24/2012 10:00:42 PM

you're not good at this, joel.

7/25/2012 12:02:12 AM

How do I turn on the halogen lamps in my e93? When its dark and the lights are on auto, the HIDs + ring around HID and ring around halogens switch on but the halogen itself is off? is that how its supposed to be? I saw the halogens switch on automatically when I was in a parking garage once.

7/28/2012 10:35:46 AM

I hate BMW.

7/29/2012 3:52:22 PM

dealer sends ARMED repo team with HELICOPTER backup to customer's workplace to retrieve loaner car from him

http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/industry-news/dealer-driver-battle-over-bmw-1.1349751#.UBo7ULRBmSr

Quote :

"Jainarain said “aggressive and arrogant” Netstar personnel, with a helicopter hovering above, barged on to the premises with guns and demanded the vehicle."

weirdest automotive news ever?

8/2/2012 5:46:10 AM