horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
LMAO Trump "ROLLING DEEP" at today's breifing. Brought a whole gang of people out to stand behind him as a prop. 3/15/2020 5:20:53 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I know he is essentially a reptile and doesn’t learn but he really needs to understand that this is a PUBLIC HEALTH issue and not an ECONOMIC issue. You tackle the pandemic with a full throated response and the economic side takes care of itself.
Also, glad he just left. Him taking questions is literally the last thing the country needs to hear. 3/15/2020 5:29:00 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Its almost like everyone knows Pence is the real president but they have to pretend Trump is the president until they put him to bed then start the real press conference. 3/15/2020 5:30:19 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I watched Gavin Newsom literally minutes before Trump and it was like living in two different galaxies. 3/15/2020 5:34:58 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
My only question is if what if Trump is telling the truth and the government does have "tremendous control" over the virus? What if he's accidentally leaking that the government knows more? I know I'm just spitballing shit because I just got done watching outbreak but its not an impossible scenario.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/asia/china-coronavirus-us-lijian-zhao-intl-hnk/index.html Chinese officials did say this came from the US military.
Please recognize the difference between me asking speculative "What if" questions and me believing them. 3/15/2020 6:20:05 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
I'M jUsT sPiTbALliNg 3/15/2020 6:25:30 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
bUsH DiD nInE eLeVeN 3/15/2020 6:26:48 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
What if it were aliens? 3/15/2020 6:26:58 PM |
Cabbage All American 2086 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "They lied about it/hid it for a month, as opposed to lying/hiding for 4 months with SARS. Definitely an improvement, wouldn't you say?" |
Sure, it's an improvement, but which entity did the improving? You present it as though it's the Chinese govt that improved: "Hey guys, maybe to minimize the damage this time we should only lie about this one for one month instead of four!"
3/15/2020 6:59:31 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ Don't be an idiot, and focus on the meat and potatoes of what the interviewee said:
- have separate sections in hospitals for testing suspected cases - the testing protocol for those who come to said sections - quick analysis of tests (4 hrs) - making suspected cases wait while their tests are analyzed - confirmed cases separated from their families - lockdown whole cities - and whatever else he said
[Edited on March 15, 2020 at 10:32 PM. Reason : I have condemned China elsewhere & regularly on twitter for suppressing whistleblowers] 3/15/2020 10:07:27 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
I think everyone agrees that we think Trump is failing right now but there has to be a measurable benchmark to measure that after this starts to play out several months down the road. What is that? (no moving the goalposts) You have to be fair and fact-based.
For me its South Korea and other countries.
If we beat South Korea by October, Trump did a "tremendous job"
If we are somewhere between the Western European countries, then Trump did ok considering.
and If we are worse off than all of Western Europe including Italy, then Trump failed.
I think thats a fair, measurable benchmark for evaluation.
I will be comparing deaths per 1 million population to evaluate the job Trump did in handling this.
[Edited on March 15, 2020 at 11:04 PM. Reason : just deaths not casese] 3/15/2020 11:02:26 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " If we beat South Korea by October, Trump did a "tremendous job"
If we are somewhere between the Western European countries, then Trump did ok considering.
and If we are worse off than all of Western Europe including Italy, then Trump failed.
I think thats a fair, measurable benchmark for evaluation. " |
This just seems so callous to me. It is like you don’t care about the loss of life, its just whether Trump “beats” certain countries.3/15/2020 11:15:26 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
OK Well Trump fans will say that people already determined he failed before anyone died and TDS people have already determined that he failed when in reality there may or may not be anything that can be done. We all have our beliefs but there has to be a method of using facts and evidence to evaluate our handling of the situation.
Loss of life is my sole indicator specifically because thats the most important thing I care about but the reality is that even the most well-equipped countries with the best preparation and leadership will lose life. The key question is how much. 3/15/2020 11:23:46 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
I'd expect that kind of callous way of thinking from Earl, but not from you, horosho 3/15/2020 11:47:02 PM |
Cabbage All American 2086 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^ Actually, I didn't watch the video. Really, I didn't need to to know that
Quote : | "They lied about it/hid it for a month, as opposed to lying/hiding for 4 months with SARS. Definitely an improvement, wouldn't you say?" |
is an idiotic thing to say.
And I don't care if you "have condemned China elsewhere & regularly on twitter for suppressing whistleblowers". I am simply addressing the fact you were kissing their ass in that particular comment.
But in that case, I would recommend more consistency on your part.3/16/2020 1:38:31 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
cant be understated how bad trump is as president right now
3/16/2020 11:42:20 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Thats my point. Everyone is saying things like that but what if you end up wrong? You will say it anyway. I'm clearly stating how I will evaluate things based on facts. Everyone who doesn't do so is operating based on emotion and you will end up with 40% of the country who says Trump did a good job no matter what then 50% of the country who says Trump did an awful job no matter what.
One group will happen to be right but neither group cares about facts.
[Edited on March 16, 2020 at 12:39 PM. Reason : I think you guys will be right, but you won't know either way because you've already decided.] 3/16/2020 12:38:54 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""They lied about it/hid it for a month, as opposed to lying/hiding for 4 months with SARS. Definitely an improvement, wouldn't you say?"" |
They also have really great literacy rates.3/16/2020 1:15:51 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.facebook.com/799539910084929/posts/3004114702960761
Check the pics... even if one person has it in such a crowd, now about 50 have it.
#MAGA #KAG 3/16/2020 1:25:06 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
6-8 weeks later than he should have, it seems Trump has finally allowed reality to take hold.
Now he needs competency, something much harder for him. 3/16/2020 3:57:28 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
This press conference is a total disaster. Did he really think it was a good idea to hold it right before the markets are going to close? 3/16/2020 4:02:05 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
^It was tremendous. Believe me! We’ll see what happens. 3/16/2020 4:04:20 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
horosho says "9 out of 10 stars, very presidential" 3/16/2020 4:07:36 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Why are you blatantly lying. 3/16/2020 4:17:53 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Are you talking to Trump, or me? 3/16/2020 4:28:09 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
dtown 3/16/2020 4:33:42 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
It was legitimately light years better. It’s a Trump Curve and he is still an incompetent moron but at least he’s taking this seriously now. 3/16/2020 4:52:23 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I haven't seen anything in the news about the Chinese government pushing TCM as a cure, at least nothing in international MSM." |
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/14/asia/coronavirus-traditional-chinese-medicine-intl-hnk/index.html
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3052763/coronavirus-80-cent-patients-china-benefiting-traditional
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32065348
Quote : | "bUsH DiD nInE eLeVeN" |
Fucking KILLED me hahahahha
[Edited on March 16, 2020 at 6:05 PM. Reason : a]3/16/2020 6:04:52 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
It would be pretty bad timing for a major earthquake to hit. Or a terrorist attack. Or riots. 3/16/2020 6:37:37 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
Yep 3/16/2020 6:55:15 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Its severe weather season and they should already be planning how to shelter families individually in response to a tornado outbreak 3/16/2020 7:47:56 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
Lol en serio? 3/16/2020 8:36:46 PM |
Cabbage All American 2086 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ Looks like we don't have to worry about terrorist attack. ISIS is calling people out of Europe because of coronavirus, anyway:
https://nypost.com/2020/03/15/isis-tells-its-terrorists-not-to-travel-to-europe-for-jihad-because-coronavirus/ 3/16/2020 8:46:23 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
^Oh, I was actually talking about homegrown terrorist attacks, because America. 3/16/2020 9:19:24 PM |
Cabbage All American 2086 Posts user info edit post |
^Oh. Yeah, that's always a possibility. 3/16/2020 9:22:58 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-pandemic-132797
of the many scandals of the last 3+ years, this is gonna be the one that defines him 3/16/2020 9:41:58 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
There's a small outbreak of bird flu in India. Right now just limited to fowl, and they're slaughtering them by the thousands to keep it from spreading. 3/16/2020 9:49:12 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
That's pretty normal though, e9ght?
[Edited on March 16, 2020 at 10:13 PM. Reason : Fucking new android keyboard] 3/16/2020 10:12:54 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Holy shit Mnuchin is giving a ton of money to rich people as "relief" and "stimulus".
as I was typing that he went into ubi?
still. fuck delaying 300 billion of tax payments, 1 trillion for markets, and pennies for working people. 3/17/2020 11:59:49 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
There's going to be hell to pay when the Tea Party hears about this. 3/17/2020 2:48:45 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
good thing Mark Meadows is now his right hand man 3/17/2020 2:49:14 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
It's really only a matter of time before the National Guard is called out to protect Walmarts across the country from "people who have no money trying to get in." 3/18/2020 11:06:50 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It would be pretty bad timing for a major earthquake to hit. Or a terrorist attack. Or riots." |
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/us/utah-earthquake/index.html3/18/2020 11:57:49 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Why does every expert call it COVID-19 yet Trump insists on calling it Chinese Virus. Who is that even virtue signaling to? Tom Cotton? Steven Miller? There’s literally no utility to it. Does he not realize there are a lot of Chinese-Americans? Including one in his own cabinet? 3/18/2020 12:16:19 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
His only clear "win" so far is stopping travel from China, so beyond keeping his racist supporters riled up, it shifts blame and allows him to pump up a positive move
Although those are the 4d chess reasons, the real reason is he is a crass racist surrounded by like minded advisors.
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 12:28 PM. Reason : E] 3/18/2020 12:27:53 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Its the reverse dog whistle I've explained before. He's talking to you and the people in the media to get them to attack him. If he can get you to attack him over little things, he can paint the image that you attack him over every little thing and then use that to discredit you when you attack him over big, policy-based things. It has worked because it forced his based to bury their heads in the sand and ignore all criticism. 3/18/2020 12:43:26 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
what? no dude - our government is conditioning us to distrust China because we're approaching an economic war. 3/18/2020 12:46:28 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
"oh I see you're just going to attack him for EVERY instance of racism???" 3/18/2020 1:43:10 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Theres a growing narrative on the right that the left calls everything racism. Of course, its not true but because so many things ARE racist there are instances of things that aren't racist being labeled racist and theres a lot of gray instances that are hard to know for sure if they are racist or not. Similar to how theres a group of liberals who call everything sexist.
I think it'd be best to pick your battles and leave the little ones alone.
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 2:33 PM. Reason : his goal was to get into a "its not racist i just state facts" debate]
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 2:34 PM. Reason : k] 3/18/2020 2:30:20 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why does every expert call it COVID-19 yet Trump insists on calling it Chinese Virus." |
Because retard dictators like Trump blame all problems on other countries and other races. This is how he (or any dictator) continues to unify the worst people in the country - by giving them something non American and non white to focus their hatred on. It's authoritarianism 101.
Quote : | "what? no dude - our government is conditioning us to distrust China because we're approaching an economic war." |
To be clear - we emphatically, 100%, should not trust that country and should be prepared for a very long period of problems with them. They have been gunning for us for a long time now and they're only going to go harder.
[Edited on March 18, 2020 at 2:48 PM. Reason : a]3/18/2020 2:47:06 PM |