JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
No, I am asking if you are implying that Trump is a predator 10/16/2017 2:04:50 PM |
Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
isn't the audio of himself bragging about it "proof"?
[Edited on October 16, 2017 at 2:05 PM. Reason : ] 10/16/2017 2:05:25 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
The grab em by the pussy thing? 10/16/2017 2:06:35 PM |
Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, he said that, among other things 10/16/2017 2:07:05 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
The same audio clip provided proof of consent. But most of you morons skip right past that. 10/16/2017 2:08:21 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
So saying when you are rich and famous you can literally grab women by the pussy 100 percent makes him a predator? Even if the women willingly let/want you to grab them by said pussy? 10/16/2017 2:08:39 PM |
Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No, I am asking if you are implying that Trump is a predator" |
lots of allegations made against trump too
here are just a few: http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497799354/a-list-of-donald-trumps-accusers-of-inappropriate-sexual-conduct
and also in addition to the pussy tape, he has walked into dressing rooms for his pageant, thrust his genitals at and tried to pull an apprentice contestant into his hotel room, pushed against a wall and forcibly kissed a writer for people, tried to put his hand up the skirt of a woman on a plane, etc...10/16/2017 2:37:19 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23063 Posts user info edit post |
To think that Trump has never forced himself upon a women is about as naive as thinking the Clintons were completely oblivious to Weinsten's problems. 10/16/2017 2:41:34 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "To think that Trump has never forced himself upon a women is about as naive as thinking the Clintons were completely oblivious to Weinsten's problems." |
I agree with that completely.10/16/2017 2:47:27 PM |
Cabbage All American 2112 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The same audio clip provided proof of consent. " |
No, it did not. Trump CLAIMING they gave consent is actually quite different from the lady herself giving consent.
But I wouldn't expect a moron like you to understand that distinction.10/16/2017 3:22:43 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
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Cabbage All American 2112 Posts user info edit post |
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tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
the problem is that the claim the moral highground is the entirety of the democratic party's existence.
republicans dont champion themselves as feminists so the equivalence favors them 10/16/2017 6:39:59 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
one person is not a politician just someone who donates money who most voters didn't know a thing about. the other person is the fucking president, who voters knew about
jesus christ i got earl'd 10/16/2017 6:57:59 PM |
Cabbage All American 2112 Posts user info edit post |
^^No, Republicans champion themselves as Christians and claim the moral high ground as such. It baffles me that you somehow missed this. 10/16/2017 7:00:00 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23063 Posts user info edit post |
^ 10/16/2017 7:06:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148789 Posts user info edit post |
If this discussion devolves even further into questions about Trump's penis and specifically the size, I believe NyM410 is the resident expert all things Trump's-penis-related 10/16/2017 8:55:38 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
its indicitive of how liberals have hikacked every movement with their facade. poc lgtq women healthcare poverty etc. all fake. 10/17/2017 1:13:42 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
sad! 10/17/2017 8:53:03 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ figuratively of course
[Edited on October 17, 2017 at 11:39 AM. Reason : I don’t even know who Earl is trolling anymore] 10/17/2017 11:38:34 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
because you never considered the fact that im not trolling and not earl 10/17/2017 12:09:25 PM |
NCSUGimp All American 24387 Posts user info edit post |
ok Earl 10/17/2017 2:27:16 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Republicans champion themselves as Christians and claim the moral high ground as such." |
And the dems champion themselves as saviors of the poor. 10/17/2017 8:10:49 PM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The same audio clip provided proof of consent. But most of you morons skip right past that." |
This is the same "consent" that Weinstein got from the women he harassed.10/17/2017 8:12:49 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Got proof of that? 10/17/2017 8:13:35 PM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
Trump's words from his own mouth. "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything"
Powerful old rich dudes getting off on exerting their power over women who aren't able to do anything about it.
[Edited on October 17, 2017 at 8:20 PM. Reason : It's probably not even about sex most of the time. Just control.] 10/17/2017 8:19:45 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they let you do it." |
I know comprehension is hard for you.10/17/2017 8:21:49 PM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
You seem to be under the impression that if a woman isn't beating you with her purse while you grope her then it's totally appropriate. 10/17/2017 8:24:22 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I know comprehension is hard for you. 10/17/2017 8:25:29 PM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
You having a stroke? Early onset Alzheimer's? You just posted the same thing. Gonna be alright bud? 10/17/2017 8:27:34 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I know comprehension is hard for you. 10/17/2017 8:29:09 PM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
Somebody call the amber lamps 10/17/2017 8:29:48 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
If he actually randomly grabbed women by the pussy that is absolutely sexual assault. I took the they let you do it as meaning they don’t press charges not they gave consent.
But Trump was lying I’m sure even on the hot mic because that is what he does. 10/17/2017 8:51:16 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148789 Posts user info edit post |
Trump probably just dropped his drawers and showed the ladies his giant penis 10/17/2017 9:12:40 PM |
Cabbage All American 2112 Posts user info edit post |
^^Exactly how gullible are you? I mean, if one man punches another man and later he claims, "He was asking for it" do you...actually believe he was literally asking for it?
Just curious. 10/17/2017 10:06:17 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Christ, this guy has been raping more women on a monthly basis than the sum total of all women to ever slum it enough to sleep with me willingly 10/19/2017 9:24:40 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Cmon guys, you know "they let you do it" means that they do not say "stop" or "no" and even if its not how we like it, the social norm is that the guy makes moves until the woman says "no" or "stop". It also means that these women continued to associate with Trump after he grabbed them. They did nothing to indicate that what Trump did was wrong and disgusting. In fact, beautiful, young women flock to men like Trump and put up with these type of antics to see what they can get. Its quid pro quo.
This is why men behave this way. They literally don't know its wrong. There are also women who will say things like "He was too scared to make a move" and "I'm still waiting for him to make the first move" and "I wonder why he didn't kiss me the other night" and "I want an assertive man who takes control"
Pussy is more powerful than money, but its supply happens to be in abundance and evenly distributed. Pussy controls everything and men are going to keep behaving the same way as long as it gets them pussy. If a behaviour prevents men from getting pussy, guess what? They won't do it anymore.
And yes, its unfortunate that all women have to deal with the societal norms that are made by a portion of men and women but that doesn't mean we need to beat around the bush or live in denial. 10/19/2017 9:48:02 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
you sound like someone who always gets friendzoned
[Edited on October 20, 2017 at 8:11 AM. Reason : '] 10/20/2017 8:11:09 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
the term friendzone is sexist in itself. i appreciate female friends.
my problem is with those who have no interest in beimg friends ans use their sex as an asset to get in and get what they want and just leapfrog their way through hollywood 10/20/2017 10:52:43 AM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah you can tell this happens all the time based on how many powerful women movie stars there are compared to men. And don't get me started on the lack of leading roles in big movies for men in blockbusters! And then there are those big action tentpole movies where there are only one or two token men on the team.
Surely men have it hard in Hollywood without those tits that make everything so easy.
[Edited on October 20, 2017 at 11:06 AM. Reason : /s] 10/20/2017 11:06:11 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
my takeaway from the last few posts is that if earl could suck a dick to get what he wanted, he would be happy to suck some dicks 10/20/2017 11:08:26 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
thats the point though. the system of femal oppression is perpetuated by the simple fact that men rather get pussy than do their job cprrectly or anything else. if women were in charge of everything, it would be different but they arent
the women dont even have to get anything tangible out of what im talking about. im not talking about stars. i dont know any stars in this way. im talking about women 18-25 who are good looking and doing whatever they can to survive and tey to breakthrough in the business. its often sex for a chance to meet someone, a chance at an audition, an invitation to aparty where insiders will be, or even a place to sleep that night. like i said, this type of pussy is in such high supply that it has little value which leads to the oppression of all women
[Edited on October 20, 2017 at 11:17 AM. Reason : k]
[Edited on October 20, 2017 at 11:18 AM. Reason : k] 10/20/2017 11:15:51 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i'm curious if you realize you are blaming the victims 10/20/2017 11:20:12 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
I was aware you would say that because you haven't demonstrated any ability to process nuance in other threads. Your build only seems to be able to process in binary. To you, everyone is either a victim blamer or only talks about how bad the scapegoat is, believes everything the police say without question or is a wild conspiracy theorist etc.
The women I'm talking about aren't even victims in the situations I'm describing. I'm talking about the underlying societal norms that perpetuate the environment for this type of crime. (The environment Trump was describing on the bus) You can direct 100% of the blame to Harvey Weinstein, but there will continue to be millions of Harvey Weinsteins, or you can discuss some of the underlying societal issues. You don't have to agree with me, but to try to turn it into "victim blaming" is lazy at best.
[Edited on October 20, 2017 at 11:57 AM. Reason : vegas thread] 10/20/2017 11:56:14 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
you literally just described again how victims create the predators 10/20/2017 12:06:56 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
The problem is that some girls are victims and some know what they are doing and are fine with it and men in power like that aren't always willing to differentiate between the two so to them the victims should be the same as the other girls. Acting like there aren't tons of girls out there perfectly willing to suck a dick to get ahead would be naive but acting like all girls should be willing to do that as if thats the norm is where the problems come in.
It is like any other argument... all guys aren't predatory assholes and all girls aren't innocent victims who weren't willing to use sex as a bargaining chip. 10/20/2017 12:35:36 PM |
AndyMac All American 31924 Posts user info edit post |
The fact that sucking a dick will get you ahead is a problem in itself, and the fault doesn't like with the people doing the sucking. 10/20/2017 12:45:52 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89855 Posts user info edit post |
It's sounding mighty rapey in this thread... 10/20/2017 12:50:06 PM |