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UJustWait84
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TIL getting a vaccine that hundreds of millions have taken ~8 months after it was approved by the FDA for emergency use- all in the name of science/facts/evidence and effective at slowly the deadly spread of an out of control virus- is the same as getting a new iPhone on launch day.

Ugh, such peasant behavior. Good for you for being so wise and cautious!

7/7/2021 9:55:43 PM

CaelNCSU
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Wonder why clinical trials have long term phases? Congrats on participating in a clinical trial and not getting paid.

7/7/2021 9:58:19 PM

UJustWait84
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If you were to somehow crash a plane into your own ivory tower, I'm not sure I'd feel too bad if the paramedics refused to treat you for being an awful, selfish anti-vaxxer.

7/7/2021 10:27:30 PM

CaelNCSU
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I just got a TDAP vaccine, how does that make me an anti vaxxer?

If you die of some weird neurological disorder I hope you find a good specialist. One of my friends in the bay area is a neurologist at Stanford. Will give you a referral.

7/7/2021 10:35:42 PM

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"Yeah, but I figured there was more of a back story. Like the founder was involved in the occult and is thought to be possesed by Hitler."


Close, it was founded by Falun Gong, a far-right religious sect created in the 90s.

[Edited on July 7, 2021 at 10:43 PM. Reason : .]

7/7/2021 10:42:18 PM

UJustWait84
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"antivaxxer
or an·ti-vax·xer or an·ti·vax·er
[ an-tee-vak-ser, an-tahy- ]SHOW IPA


noun Informal: Disparaging.
a person who distrusts or is against vaccination, especially a parent who refuses to have a young child vaccinated.

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Being 'selectively' anti-vaxx doesn't make you a good/decent person-- it just makes you a self-important asshole who thinks he's better than everyone else.

Nothing you've posted provides any evidence to the contrary, but if you wanna loop back to the topic at hand, you're clearly too busy reading garbage Tweets and posting nonsense from far-right talking points for it to register. Sad.

7/7/2021 10:51:03 PM

CaelNCSU
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^ that's against vaccination entirely. It doesn't say anything about being an unwilling participant in a clinical trial. I get it makes good propaganda for people that unknowingly joined a clinical trial.

It's like if someone doesn't eat hamburgers but still eats steak they aren't an anti meat vegetarian.

7/7/2021 11:01:35 PM

UJustWait84
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Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.

[Edited on July 7, 2021 at 11:04 PM. Reason : I'm not racist, I have black friends!!1 ]

7/7/2021 11:03:22 PM

CaelNCSU
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The gym usually. Having a BMI less than 30 carries zero covid risk. Coupled with being tired it's nice.

7/7/2021 11:07:43 PM

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what does "zero covid risk" mean?

7/7/2021 11:15:01 PM

CaelNCSU
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That you should worry more about Bojangles or drinking alcohol than covid.

7/7/2021 11:41:05 PM

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so you do realize covid is still in the clinical trial stage, and there are bugs among people in good physical shape

i might as well say that getting the vaccine has zero health risk

you should also worry more about Bojangles or drinking alcohol than the vaccine

[Edited on July 8, 2021 at 12:02 AM. Reason : .]

7/7/2021 11:47:24 PM

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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-qanon-impending-judgment-day-behind-facebook-fueled-rise-epoch-n1044121

7/8/2021 1:38:13 AM

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Hey CaelNCSU, no one is falling for your flimsy logic. There's nothing any of us can say that isn't already blatantly obvious, but I'll say it anyway. It's not all about you! You or any other unvaccinated idiot could be patient zero for a new mutation that ends up evading the protections currently offered by the vaccines. Maybe you aren't concerned for yourself or perhaps don't know anyone personally who has lost a loved one to this virus, but your continued informed refusal to get vaccinated in the face of overwhelming scientific and practical supporting evidence really just makes you a shit person.

7/8/2021 10:37:11 AM

CaelNCSU
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^ you could also be patient zero. Vaccines with a single antigen are a great way to create selection pressure for a virus. Regular vaccines with dead virus have many antigens which reduce the possibility of escape.

Enjoy hanging with the new pharma billionaires yacht. Maybe they will thank you personally for participating in this clinical trial.

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"face of overwhelming scientific and practical supporting evidence "


What evidence? The neurological symptoms? The myocarditis? The fact it's half as effective to the delta variant?

[Edited on July 8, 2021 at 1:19 PM. Reason : A]

7/8/2021 1:18:15 PM

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Nice try.

7/8/2021 1:41:38 PM

thegoodlife3
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pretty fucking perfect that the dude who has boasted about shaking Elon Musk’s hand and linked to an article from the Epoch Times is also someone who regurgitates bullshit from Alex Berenson

7/8/2021 1:47:36 PM

CaelNCSU
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Pretty fucking great a total corporate whore will participate in a clinical trial with no recourse to be had. Have you always done exactly what the TV told you?

7/8/2021 2:38:03 PM

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it's weird that someone who seems to be all about risk aversion is more worried about a vaccine with nearly zero risk, than a virus with much more than zero risk

stop living in fear of the virus! also, i'm afraid of the vaccine!

7/8/2021 2:56:51 PM

thegoodlife3
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always great when smarmy edgelords short circuit

7/8/2021 3:06:54 PM

UJustWait84
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His jet-set life of luxury is worth far more than the sad, impressionable, plebeian drudge the rest of us 'normies' have to endure.

7/8/2021 3:10:57 PM

CaelNCSU
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"always great when smarmy edgelords short circuit"



Wut?

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"His jet-set life of luxury "


I have no jets. GA is lots of 105 degree temp sweating on airport ramps. Living like a monk saving, investing and making a couple of smart investments you too can achieve all your goals and dreams. It's probably just the SYSTEM or man holding you down. You seem like the type that were calling people idiots for investing in beanie babies in 2014 in the bitcoin thread.

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it's weird that someone who seems to be all about risk aversion is more worried about a vaccine with nearly zero risk, than a virus with much more than zero risk"


Afraid is a strong word. My county had almost 0 covid cases in the last 2-3 months. Seven day average is 13. Like you said above there is a bit about humans having bugs. Coronavirii have been around forever and our immune systems have as well. There is a novel thing or two about virus. It's hard to say on the one had the spike protein is deadly in the vaccine but not the virus. If you're under thirty BMI and age I don't see any reason to get the vaccine. My age is a bit of a coin toss. Low cases where I live why not wait until the end of the trial?

[Edited on July 8, 2021 at 4:39 PM. Reason : a]

7/8/2021 4:36:48 PM

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"almost zero" is a funny phrase

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"don't see any reason to get the vaccine"


To increase herd immunity and protect your fellow human

7/8/2021 4:50:50 PM

The Coz
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Shit person.

7/8/2021 5:41:35 PM

HaLo
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" My county had almost 0 covid cases in the last 2-3 months. Seven day average is 13."


Thanks to a whole bunch of people getting the vaccine. Sadly you get to take advantage of the good situation they’ve provided. That’s why you’re selfish

7/8/2021 6:00:05 PM

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almost zero the last 2-3 months, but ~13 a week.


we were doing pretty well until about a month ago and now cases and hospitalizations are up. We were also one of the few places that have had high infection for kids, including a 2yr old that died of it. Early on we were one of the models for high vaccination rates and good clinics (after the initial lack of doses being sent out) and now it's stalled out with leftover doses every week. The ~45% of the population that will not get it is ruining it for the rest of us.

[Edited on July 8, 2021 at 8:12 PM. Reason : afsd]

7/8/2021 8:10:28 PM

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https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.com/p/violent-extremists-took-over-the

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These bizarre alternate-reality takes are awful for a whole host of reasons, including the fact that this so-called "insurrection" everyone is still shrieking about never at any point in its planning or enactment had a higher than zero percent chance of overthrowing the most powerful government in the world, and the fact that they are manufacturing consent for new authoritarian measures just like 9/11 did.

For all the fretting everyone has been doing about fascists and white supremacist groups, those are not the violent extremists posing the greatest threat and amassing the highest body count today. Neither are the communists. Neither are the anarchists. Neither are the radicalized Muslims, nor the fundamentalist Christians, nor the environmentalists, nor the incels. No, the most dangerous and deadly group of violent extremists in our day are adherents of the mainstream status quo politics of the US-centralized power alliance.

And it's not even close. Certainly many of the groups listed above are dangerous and undesirable, but they're not the ones raining explosives upon families around the world for power and profit. They're not the ones brandishing nuclear weapons with steadily increasing recklessness as they ramp up a new cold war against Russia and China. They're not the ones poisoning the air and the water and rapidly destroying the environment we all depend on for survival. They're not the ones enslaving humanity to a brutal, oppressive and exploitative global capitalist system which leaves far too many toiling for far too little when there's plenty for everyone.

That would be the so-called "moderates" of the western empire, who in reality are anything but.


It is violent to wage nonstop campaigns of military mass murder and impose civilian-killing economic sanctions on nations which disobey your dictates. It is extremist to brutalize, brainwash and enslave humanity while continuously shoving the world in the direction of extinction and armageddon in the name of profit and unipolar hegemony. Because US officials sit almost entirely on the right side of the global political spectrum, we can accurately say that everyone is fretting about violent right-wing extremists storming a Capitol building that had already long been occupied by violent right-wing extremists."

7/10/2021 8:56:29 AM

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always enjoy when you feel the need to post a glorified Live Journal entry

7/10/2021 10:24:41 AM

The Coz
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LOL whataboutism.

7/10/2021 11:24:52 AM

CaelNCSU
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Where did I say that? I primarily posted it for the comment about there being zero chance of an actual takeover.

7/10/2021 3:14:55 PM

The Coz
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OK, and the whole rest of the post is whataboutism. The rioters weren't the real extremists. The real extremists are the moderates because of all the stuff they did or didn't do over decades.

7/10/2021 3:44:53 PM

thegoodlife3
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^^ they were actively looking for both the VP and members of Congress, and they weren’t hoping for a heated debate

[Edited on July 10, 2021 at 5:03 PM. Reason : .]

7/10/2021 5:03:27 PM

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Well, I think we can all agree that there were some very fine people on both sides. . . on both sides. . .

7/10/2021 5:22:06 PM

CaelNCSU
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^^ even if they got the VP it's not like the state department, military, or China is going to declare Viking guy legitimate. Not to say delusional people can't be dangerous

People don't follow idiots.

[Edited on July 10, 2021 at 5:40 PM. Reason : A ]

7/10/2021 5:26:26 PM

CaelNCSU
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^^ do you just randomly repeat things you hear on TV that have no bearing on conversation?

7/10/2021 5:31:08 PM

HaLo
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^^last 6 years has proven otherwise

7/10/2021 7:14:30 PM

The Coz
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^^Do YOU?!

7/10/2021 8:13:37 PM

CaelNCSU
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^^ I'm not talking trailer park. People making six figures in the state department.

And again the trailer park can be dangerous and disruptive, but they aren't installing a fascist state. They don't have the organizational capability.

^ no I read books and poorly articulate the points here.

7/10/2021 9:24:05 PM

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CaelNCSU exposed

7/11/2021 3:31:38 AM

Bullet
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Pretty powerful/disturbing testimony

7/27/2021 1:22:05 PM

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^

7/27/2021 3:04:38 PM

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I'm so glad Jordan the Jacketless was banned.

7/27/2021 6:07:55 PM

thegoodlife3
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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/exclusive-jan-6-organizers-met-congress-white-house-1245289/

people are starting to squeal

10/24/2021 11:21:12 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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Bob Costa flagged relevant pages from the book Peril regarding the planning that occurred at the Willard Hotel in this thread:

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1451953928791379969

10/25/2021 10:55:11 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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This claim is noteworthy, if true:

https://twitter.com/muellershewrote/status/1458139441151705091

This account claims, according to a single anonymous source, that Mike Pence, his aides and staff had their access to their offices at the Capitol Complex and the White House deactivated during the attack on the Capitol on January 6.

This account further claims that members of Congress and their staff were still able to access their offices when this occurred.

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1458162888409899012

Journalist Jonathan Karl told Stephen Colbert during an interview that there is official White House photography of Mike Pence's team when they were huddled in the Capitol building's loading dock.

https://youtu.be/fxXy8aHpL7c?t=149

I'm assuming that the loading dock was secure; otherwise, he wouldn't have been taken there in the first place. Still, it seems rather bizarre.

11/10/2021 1:25:25 PM

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Can the courts ever make a right decision, or have they been so politicized that they can only be counted on to slow stuff down to allow the clock to run out on justice?

11/11/2021 4:58:34 PM

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I'm going to ignore your previous rhetorical question and ask one of my own:

If a subpoena is issued from a burning patch of rainforest in the Amazon and nobody is around to apprehend Steve Bannon and arrest him, does the rainforest still burn to the ground?

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-justice-department-indicts-bannon-not-complying-with-jan-6-subpoena-2021-11-12/

11/12/2021 6:57:23 PM

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The man is literally a giant crusty scab

11/16/2021 8:58:57 AM

The Coz
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For those with access to HBO Max, the documentary "Four Hours at the Capitol" is required viewing.

Pretty infuriating.

11/16/2021 11:12:12 PM

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^^Also, when it comes to Steve Bannon, I'm with Jackie Chiles:

https://youtu.be/QGpDwL9J9V4

11/16/2021 11:17:00 PM

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