The theory I’ve seen is that they are just going to find some reason to remand it back to DC court, then it has to go through the entire process over again, effectively killing trial until after the election.

4/25/2024 2:25:09 PM

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"This Supreme Court is very adept at authoring opinions with carve-outs that pertain to specific circumstances but not others. I wouldn't be surprised to see similar tomfoolery with this opinion."

The easiest punt would be to more or less agree with the DC Appeals court. Presidents may be entitled to criminal immunity for official acts, but the charged conduct plainly isn't an official act. Hell, Trump's own lawyers admitted he was acting as a private citizen in the charged conduct. Just say "only official acts could enjoy immunity, and these weren't even remotely official acts"

4/25/2024 6:20:01 PM

The easiest touchdown is let this guy get what he deserves.

[Edited on April 25, 2024 at 10:11 PM. Reason : -]

4/25/2024 10:11:08 PM

Would definitely help solidify the independence of the judiciary and the supposed non-political nature of the Supreme Court if a court made up of conservative appointees let him face justice.

4/26/2024 7:39:35 AM

Yeah, too bad we don’t have that

4/26/2024 7:47:16 AM

I know, but it still felt good to type it. It was aspirational.

4/26/2024 1:35:28 PM

Seriously, if Roberts wants to protect the reputation of the Court, the decision should be 9-0 for "these alleged acts aren't official acts, no immunity." Fuck, Trump's own lawyers said they were private acts, for fuck's sake. They gave you a gift, take it. And tell Clarence to fuckin recuse himself next time

4/27/2024 2:41:44 PM

5/18/2024 9:05:02 AM

Cozman, why are your eyebrows so close to your eyes

5/19/2024 1:07:00 PM

Oh, that's just what my eyebrows do when I'm looking disapprovingly. A "look of disapproval", you might say. . .

5/19/2024 4:19:59 PM

Roger

5/20/2024 3:08:55 AM

For context:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/18/upside-down-flag-at-justice-alitos-home-another-blow-for-supreme-court-under-fire-00158772

unbelievable

5/20/2024 2:22:29 PM

Dang, should get the UNC interim chancellor and a group of his dog-whistling fratboys to go rehang it up LIKE A PATRIOT SHOULD.

5/20/2024 2:52:17 PM

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alitos-neighborhood-clash-upside-down-113559718.html

5/29/2024 10:42:40 AM

https://www.wral.com/story/maureen-dowd-the-verdict-is-in-on-the-supreme-court/21469231/

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"MAUREEN DOWD: The verdict is in on the Supreme Court Thursday, June 6, 2024 -- I don't need a black robe to hand down a judgment on the Supreme Court. It's corrupt, rotten and hurting America. The once august court is now hopelessly corroded: It is in the hands of a cabal of religious and far-right zealots, including a couple of ethical scofflaws with MAGA wives. EDITOR'S NOTE: Maureen Dowd is a columnist for The New York Times. She won the 1999 Pulitzer Prize for distinguished commentary. After Donald Trump was found guilty of 34 felony counts in a Manhattan court, conservatives — from Marjorie Taylor Greene to George Santos to the Heritage Foundation — began posting upside-down American flags on the social platform X in solidarity with the “political prisoner,” as Trump absurdly styles himself. It was the same upside-down symbol that insurrectionists carried to the Capitol on Jan. 6 to proclaim that they thought the election was stolen and that was seen flying over Justice Samuel Alito’s house in suburban Virginia even as the Supreme Court was considering whether to hear a case about the 2020 presidential election. Now that it’s being used to show support for a felonious ex-president, Alito will have an even harder time trying to pretend he’s oblivious about its meaning. I don’t need a black robe to hand down a judgment on the Supreme Court. It’s corrupt, rotten and hurting America. The once august court, which the public held in highest esteem, is now hopelessly corroded: It is in the hands of a cabal of religious and far-right zealots, including a couple of ethical scofflaws with MAGA wives. Chief Justice John Roberts, who dreamed of being remembered as a great unifier of the court, is refusing to rein in Alito and Justice Clarence Thomas, who are thumbing their noses at the public and their own oaths to dispense fair and impartial justice. When Alito pushed a willing conservative majority into yanking away women’s right to control their own bodies, he was, in essence, blaming women: You get pregnant, you’ll have to live with it. In this latest firestorm, he blamed one woman in particular: his wife, Martha-Ann. Somehow, in Alito’s world, women are to blame. It was shocking when The New York Times’ Jodi Kantor reported that the upside-down flag cherished by “Stop the Steal” marchers was hanging outside Alito’s house. It was even more shocking when we learned that another flag carried by “Stop the Steal” rioters on Jan. 6, the “Appeal to Heaven” flag, was flying outside the Alitos’ vacation home in New Jersey as cases concerning the Jan. 6 assault and riot were pending at the court. This flag symbolizes support for Donald Trump and a desire to infuse the federal government with a lot more Christianity. “In coming weeks, the justices will rule on two climactic cases involving the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, including whether Trump has immunity for his actions,” Kantor wrote. “Their decisions will shape how accountable he can be held for trying to overturn the last presidential election and his chances for reelection in the upcoming one.” Alito’s conservative Christian, right-wing, deeply aggrieved views about the culture wars are reflected in his speeches, decisions and now flags that are red flags. He is refusing to recuse himself from the two cases about the attempted coup on Jan. 6. (One concerns the question of whether Trump is immune from prosecution for his role egging on rioters; the other involves a federal obstruction law used to charge the rioters.) When leading Democratic lawmakers demanded Alito’s recusal, he wrote back, trying to make Martha-Ann Alito the fall guy. Alito has clearly heard enough criminal appeals to know you’ve got to point the finger at somebody else when you’re guilty. “My wife is fond of flying flags,” he wrote to the lawmakers. “I am not. She was solely responsible for having flagpoles put up at our residence and our vacation home and has flown a wide variety of flags over the years.” He’s happy to take away the rights of millions of American women to control their bodies, but respects the right of his wife to control their incendiary flags. While he’s on the Supreme Court, he said, Martha-Ann wields the gavel at home. “I was not even aware of the upside-down flag until it was called to my attention,” he wrote. “As soon as I saw it, I asked my wife to take it down, but for several days, she refused.” He said there was absolutely nothing he could do to get that pesky seditious flag taken down sooner. He was oblivious about the symbolism of the “Appeal to Heaven” pine tree flag, he claimed. Thomas is also awash in ethical snarls, some related to his wife. Ginni Thomas’ supporters also tried to defend her activism related to Jan. 6 by saying she is an independent spouse. But it doesn’t wash. As Jane Mayer wrote in The New Yorker, Ginni Thomas is a lawyer and a prominent member of hard-right groups and “has declared that America is in existential danger because of the ‘deep state’ and the ‘fascist left,’ which includes ‘transsexual fascists.’” In a Facebook post, she linked to a news item about the Jan. 6 protest and wrote “LOVE MAGA people!!!!” Mayer noted that it is getting harder to dismiss Ginni Thomas’ actions as harmless, given that the “Supreme Court appears likely to secure victories for her allies in a number of highly polarizing cases — on abortion, affirmative action, and gun rights.” Sen. Richard Blumenthal asked Roberts to make Clarence Thomas recuse himself from the case on Trump and the insurrection, but Thomas refused. The Supreme Court has two decisions on abortion cases due any day. “The Fall of Roe,” an insightful new book by The New York Times reporters Elizabeth Dias and Lisa Lerer, laid out the events and the strategy — and the failure of the Democrats to recognize the threat — that led to the fall of Roe. There was a determined group of religious zealots with a long-term master plan to pack the court with religious zealots. “These conservative Catholic and evangelical Christian operators believed they were fighting the biggest moral battle of the modern age, and forced America to debate on their terms,” they wrote. “But despite their public appeals, they did not convince broad swaths of Americans of the righteousness of their cause. Instead, they remained a minority, and leveraged the structures of American democracy in their favor, building a framework strong enough to withstand not only the political system but also a society moving rapidly against them. They took power to remake the nation in their image. And they were far more organized than their opponents or the public ever knew.” Now it’s up to Democrats to turn the tables and see if they can use this issue in the November election to save the country and women’s rights. This article originally appeared in The New York Times."

[Edited on June 6, 2024 at 1:17 PM. Reason : ]

6/6/2024 1:17:13 PM

What an interesting read. Bullet, I highly encourage you to post more full length articles. Maybe next time, a whole book?

You know, time for some self-introspection regarding this post. Do I actually intend to be sarcastic here? Not really. In fact, I dislike when people genuinely act like that, especially in this regard. Are we so illiterate on the internet now that we insult people for posting more than a few paragraphs? Hell, he could've been helping us avoid a paywall. And yet, I have the desire to send this. Am I just a troll?

Bullet, only you can grant me mercy. Forgive me, for I have sinned

Now I must "I ain't reading all that" myself

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"I ain't reading all that"

catharsis at last, the troll has become the trolled... amen

6/10/2024 3:58:07 PM

What a journey

6/10/2024 4:27:45 PM

LOL!

6/10/2024 4:29:36 PM

isn't it about time to ban Earl again? He's just getting more and more annoying.

6/10/2024 4:35:16 PM

How do you tell a man that the ghosts of his past only exist within his head? How unfortunate

6/10/2024 9:22:04 PM

https://www.npr.org/2024/06/12/nx-s1-5002000/lauren-windsor-secret-recordings-supreme-court-chief-justice-roberts-and-justice-alito

6/12/2024 2:09:27 PM

Shot down abortion drug restrictions

Sided with Starbucks against union organizers, which isn't shocking, but 8-1, which is. Either i need to read up more on this case or our "liberal" justices aren't very...

[Edited on June 13, 2024 at 3:18 PM. Reason : E]

6/13/2024 3:18:12 PM

I’m not up on the specifics of todays ruling, but these two seem to be:

https://x.com/susanrinkunas/status/1801261533080522871?s=46

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" Washington Post push alert is misleading! The Supreme Court didn’t weigh in on restricting access to the abortion pill because these particular plaintiffs couldn’t legally sue over it. The threat absolutely remains."

https://x.com/gbbranstetter/status/1801294121576915172?s=46

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" If anything Kavanaugh just laid out a roadmap for the ADF to reach this point again--say, for instance, not in an election year"

[Edited on June 13, 2024 at 4:24 PM. Reason : .]

6/13/2024 4:24:33 PM

Yea no that's a good point, should have said they shot down this particular case, no precedent/true ruling on the issue. Better than the alternative for now I guess.

6/13/2024 4:44:04 PM

Bump stocks are A-OK again!

6/14/2024 11:32:55 AM

Woo-hoo! Let’s all go to Vegas!

6/14/2024 2:08:52 PM

^
Are you feeling lucky (enough to not be shot up by a gun nut sniper with a bump stock)?!

6/14/2024 6:14:01 PM

I think that bump stocks are mostly a stupid novelty, but I also don't even think that there is a case to be made for them to be banned as machine guns. They aren't. Period, end of story, it's absolutely clear that they do not meet the definition. Three justices apparently not even pretending to give a fuck what the law clearly says is way more bothersome to me than some people owning bump stocks.

6/14/2024 6:27:44 PM

One part of Sotomayors dissent made me lol

6/14/2024 6:54:41 PM

^^Well, luckily we have Justice Clarence Thomas's PowerPoint to help us all understand how guns work.

Maybe Congress could actually do something instead of ceding all power to the Executive and Judicial branches?

Doubt it.

^Which part?

6/14/2024 6:55:05 PM

Looking like a duck etc

6/14/2024 7:11:50 PM

Sotomayor: "To me, . . . it look like a duck to me!"

6/14/2024 9:14:32 PM

^^^^^

To a reasonable person they’re a machine gun. That’s usually the standard the law is written to.

It’s like a car nerd arguing an electric vehicle is not a car because it doesn’t use a combustion engine, it’s just a turning magnet

6/16/2024 3:26:36 PM

^ except a "reasonable person" is NOT the standard here. It's a very specific definition, to which the item in question plainly does not apply. If these things truly are horrible devices which have no business existing, then the proper thing to do is educate people as to what the law actually is so that they can lobby their representatives to make suitable changes. What you shouldn't do is make the works dimmer by misrepresenting a straightforward legal definition which allows people to know if they are or aren't breaking the law.

6/16/2024 10:53:25 PM

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"the proper thing to do is educate people as to what the law actually is so that they can lobby their representatives to make suitable changes. "

Can't yourside put up a legit proposal. Would prob pass like 400-50 or whatever the numbers are

6/16/2024 11:18:17 PM

Because they just love freedom too much. That's the only thing they're guilty of.

6/17/2024 8:29:12 AM

[old]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/06/13/senate-finds-clarence-thomas-received-three-more-undisclosed-trips-from-gop-megadonor-harlan-crow/

6/17/2024 12:30:47 PM

https://www.wral.com/story/the-supreme-court-rules-for-biden-administration-in-a-social-media-dispute-with-conservative-states/21498945/

Quote :

"The Supreme Court on Wednesday sided with the Biden administration in a dispute with Republican-led states over how far the federal government can go to combat controversial social media posts on topics including COVID-19 and election security. By a 6-3 vote, the justices threw out lower-court rulings that favored Louisiana, Missouri and other parties in their claims that officials in the Democratic administration leaned on the social media platforms to unconstitutionally squelch conservative points of view. Justice Amy Coney Barrett wrote for the court that the states and other parties did not have the legal right, or standing, to sue. Justices Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch and Clarence Thomas dissented. ....... "

6/26/2024 11:45:45 AM

Alternative Facts?

6/26/2024 12:35:04 PM

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"In a 6-3 decision, the conservative Supreme Court just stripped the Securities and Exchange Commission of a critical enforcement tool in fighting fraud cases. This decision — part of business-backed efforts to curb the power of federal agencies — will likely have far-reaching effects on how the SEC and other regulatory agencies take action against wrongdoing."

https://twitter.com/InternetHippo/status/1806357756779405610

[Edited on June 27, 2024 at 2:39 PM. Reason : E]

6/27/2024 2:39:21 PM

GNSP

6/28/2024 11:54:04 AM

I had a dream last night that my house was burglarized and thieves cut out my copper wire. I wake up today and see this raft of seemingly crazy decisions and wonder which was actually the dream?

6/28/2024 5:43:06 PM

Who wants to guess how the pending Supreme Court ruling on unlimited presidential immunity is going to come down?

6/30/2024 12:57:30 PM

I'm not sure, but if they go full stupid, then Biden should immediately hold a press conference, declare Trump a domestic terrorist, and state that he is ordering a strike on Mar a Lago. Then, look into the camera and say "John Roberts, would you like to change your mind?"

7/1/2024 9:10:45 AM

LOL at that scenario.

7/1/2024 9:56:40 AM

Absolute immunity for official acts


Wild

7/1/2024 10:48:58 AM

we are supremely fucked

7/1/2024 10:50:16 AM

I picked a hell of a week to stop sniffing glue.

7/1/2024 10:57:45 AM

Too bad Biden is too ethical to not follow burrows suggestion

7/1/2024 11:04:43 AM

wtf

7/1/2024 11:08:30 AM