Quote :

" Warren is popular, but that's a super old ticket"

And real vanilla

Harris doesn’t seem all that genuine to me. Almost like a female John Edwards. But I wouldn’t be super sad over her being VP.

Definitely hope not Abrams, I’d prefer Warren over her. My dream choice would be Michelle Obama. Followed by Oprah. Clyburn likes Atlanta mayor, seems likeable enough. Def not Klobuchar, Or the Michigan lady.

I think NM has some latina thats making some short lists. I hope it is someone of color other than Abrams

5/6/2020 5:24:45 PM

Abrams is not yet qualified in my position.

Michelle Lujan Grisham is who you're thinking of, governor of New Mexico

5/6/2020 5:48:58 PM

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1257858123576029184

Seriously, the DNC threw Sanders under the bus, the SECOND TIME, for this??? Of course I want the LIAR-IN-CHIEF gone at all costs, but it is obvious he will run circles around Biden at debates (as I said a couple of months ago). I just hope that Biden gets the vote of the independents and the Bernie-supporters.

The world is already fucked, but it will be irreversibly so if Trump gets 4 more years.

P.S. "Captain Africa" = Obama??? Did he really call him that? I can't see what/who else he is referring to.

P.P.S. I know what he means by "intercourse", but the vast majority of the world--including many (majority?) Americans--doesn't, so it was in very poor taste of him to use that, and but of course, the other side is tying his usage of the word to the sexual assault allegations against him as some kind of Freudian slip or some other nonsense.

5/7/2020 2:13:17 AM

sounds like he said "kept in Africa"

5/7/2020 2:24:53 AM

^ Yup you are right, my volume was low the first time I listened.

5/7/2020 2:58:25 AM

1) Trump isn’t running circles around anyone in any situation he has to sound intelligent in. He’ll bully, slur and sniff for a couple hours and America is fundamentally broken so 35% will think he does great. This idea that he will end Biden’s life in a de debate is pure projection just like those who say Trump is going to pivot to M4A. Rank nonsense.

2) debates don’t matter anyway in a GE and never actually have any long-term impact (maybe with the exception of the first televised one in 1960)

3) with likely over 100,000 dead and an economy in tatters do you honestly think anyone will give a flying fuck if Biden says a word wrong?

5/7/2020 6:46:28 AM

they might care if he sounds even worse than president retard or falls asleep on stage like in the hillary thing.

that doesnt absolve trump of this virus disaster but it certainly matters on social media. just sayin...

5/7/2020 9:57:05 AM

If social media mattered Sanders would’ve rolled Biden by 40 points.

In all honesty, Biden actually came out looking better in the last debate with Sanders because everyone was acting like he’d be drooling on himself and flinging feces. Sort of like the soft bigotry of low expectations Trump often benefits from.

(No, I’m not saying he “won” the debate... just that he didn’t embarrass himself)

5/7/2020 11:10:11 AM

Quote :

" 2) debates don’t matter anyway in a GE and never actually have any long-term impact (maybe with the exception of the first televised one in 1960)"

1976. Ford-Carter and Ford's blunder on Poland.

I'd say "giant sucking sound" had a long-term impact - the wife of the guy that won embraced it in her 2 presidential campaigns while dismissing the guy that said it.

Part of me wouldn't be surprised if there aren't any debates. This president has thrown a ton of uncodified norms out the window, another one is not exactly stunning.

[Edited on May 7, 2020 at 2:13 PM. Reason : .]

5/7/2020 2:12:13 PM

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/5/7/21248713/tara-reade-joe-biden-sexual-assault-accusation

Posting without comment aside from saying it’s probably the most concise and open telling of Reade’s interactions with the media and the timeline of telling her story.

5/7/2020 2:27:29 PM

^That's a good article. I'm still kinda angry at the obvious disparity between support for Blasey-Ford and the dismissal of Reade by the Democrats, but her story does suck. I feel sorry for her if it happened. There's not really much excuse for going to the press a year ago with "inappropriate touches and abuse of power" and not mentioning straight up rape at the same time.

5/7/2020 4:11:34 PM

Quit saying that. Yes her story does suck. Yes women often don't mention rape or hesitantly mention abuse because they are scared.

5/7/2020 8:06:05 PM

Yes but ^ doesn't really fly here. She had balls enough to take a story to the press. A story using inappropriate touching as the basis for abuse of power.

5/7/2020 10:51:40 PM

Quote :

"I'm still kinda angry at the obvious disparity between support for Blasey-Ford and the dismissal of Reade by the Democrats, but her story does suck"

Do you also get angry when the hypocrisy comes from the right?

Asking for a friend

5/7/2020 10:56:05 PM

Quote :

" I'm still kinda angry at the obvious disparity between support for Blasey-Ford and the dismissal of Reade by the Democrats, but her story does suck."

why does it make you angry, especially if you think Reade’s story sucks?

5/7/2020 11:07:16 PM

https://www.leftvoice.org/joe-biden-keep-ahmaud-arberys-name-out-of-your-mouth
This is my complete mood today.

5/8/2020 2:30:44 AM

https://thecritic.co.uk/issues/may-2020/metoos-lying-stooges

hahahaha

5/8/2020 6:45:12 AM

Quote :

"Do you also get angry when the hypocrisy comes from the right? "

Very much so. It made my head explode to hear people trying to compare the COVID-19 situation to the swine flu, and then to listen to them try to backtrack. I'm distancing myself more and more from the Republican platform due to the hypocrisy. I just wish folks on the left could identify their own hypocrisy as well.

And I get angry because it seems like there is an army of reporters and politicians on the left trying to investigate Reade's story. I don't recall such scrutiny with Blasey-Ford's story. Only after the right came after her did people really try to go back and research what was going on with her.

5/8/2020 10:03:41 AM

do you want everyone treated like kavanaugh or nobody treated like kavanaugh?

5/8/2020 10:26:11 AM

Biden ad
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1258431648732872706

Looks good!

5/8/2020 10:54:43 AM

^^Everyone? I kinda feel like that question is a trap. But at the present, Biden is def. not getting the Kavenaugh treatment.

5/8/2020 11:13:32 AM

The fact that the corollary is Kavanaugh and not Trump has been baffling from the start to me.

Name recognition and actually historical vetting of Kavanaugh is not even close to what Biden has had. Same with Trump. Not to mention Biden and Trump are both going to be voted on by the people and not 100 elite frauds.

For recency sake, the better comparison would be Trump and E. Jean Carroll compared to Biden and Reade, no?

[Edited on May 8, 2020 at 12:22 PM. Reason : X]

5/8/2020 12:21:17 PM

Everyone facing allegations should be treated like Biden. Innocent until proven guilty even when we know he's a shitbag and is guilty of something. Most democrats believe that too they just suspended it during that movement. Hell, democrats have shown they will even suspend their hate for the KKK if it means more power.

5/8/2020 12:42:28 PM

5/8/2020 12:57:15 PM

She is atrocious.

https://twitter.com/LisaBloom/status/1256327017911382018

Quote :

"Lisa Bloom @LisaBloom I believe you, Tara Reade. You have people who remember you told them about this decades ago. We know he is "handsy." You're not asking for $. You've obviously struggled mightily with this. I still have to fight Trump, so I will still support Joe. But I believe you. And I'm sorry"

If that's what you are going to do, fine, do it, but why come out to the whole world and announce you are a sh!tbag?

Not surprising when you learn/recall that she defended/advised Weinstein when he was faced with accusations by coming up with strategies to actively undermine and portray as crazy/unhinged (in the media) his accusers (some of the things she said then are vile; Wikipedia has a nice summary)... and to think, she runs a law firm that takes up cases of women who allege sexual abuse/harassment. What a fucking contradiction in terms.

5/8/2020 1:01:47 PM

Other things aside, what part of that statement makes her a shitbag? Voting Biden over Trump? Should no one vote this year, since both of the two main candidates have allegations against them? It's a shitty situation that I wish we weren't in, Joe's a shitty candidate even without these allegations, but here we are, and the choice is still clear, regardless if the allegations are true or not.

5/8/2020 1:38:26 PM

Lol the 'journalist' Reade broke the latest iteration of her story to is on Russian TV calling Biden a liar and senile

5/8/2020 4:49:51 PM

https://twitter.com/kkondik/status/1259114058189594624?s=21

Still a long time to go but if this holds, Trump is going to get rolled. Any decrease in youth enthusiasm (though he is actually polling better than HRC in some recent polling with the youngest demo) would easily be offset by gains here.

I honestly think people on all sides (though interestingly enough I think Bernie Sanders 100% understands it — he’s a lot more politically savvy than he gets credit for) misunderstand how little the challenger matters in this election. It’s all about a referendum on the incumbent.

[Edited on May 9, 2020 at 10:27 AM. Reason : And the very online are not representative of GE voters but they miss the boat by even more]

5/9/2020 10:27:07 AM

This is the lowest low point of the pandemic and the election is far off. A lot can happen in 5 months and things could get a lot worse but theres also chance things get a lot better and we know what that means. This election is going to be decided by COVID-19. Also, don't forget about the October surprise and how it will affect numbers.

5/9/2020 10:42:49 AM

Vox.com: The agonizing story of Tara Reade and her sexual assault allegation against Joe Biden.
https://www.vox.com/2020/5/7/21248713/tara-reade-joe-biden-sexual-assault-accusation

5/9/2020 11:43:34 AM

http://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1260520449198489600

Quote :

" NEW this morning: Biden and Sanders roll out the members of the 6 Unity Task Forces that will offer recommendations to the DNC platform cmte and to Biden. Includes @johnkerry, @EricHolder, @vivek_murthy, @aoc, @RepJayapal, @rweingarten, @econjared, @StephanieKelton. https://t.co/fGHHFJcUVE"

pretty solid groups

5/13/2020 3:16:58 PM

BOOM goes the dynamite.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grenell-releases-list-of-officials-who-sought-to-unmask-flynn-biden-comey-obama-intel-chiefs-among-them

When I heard they were releasing a list of officials who helped unmask Flynn I thought "mehh" it would be a bunch of scapegoatable guys I had never heard of. I never would've imagined It'd be a who's who of the deep state, Obama high level members, AND Joe Biden. Holy shit.

No matter what explanation there is (I'm sure there are some reasonable-sounding ones out there), its not a good thing to be on a list with THOSE people on THIS issue. It feeds right into their whole strategy.

5/13/2020 6:51:17 PM

You do realize unmasking is extremely common and goes through a justification process, right? Literally thousands per year

5/13/2020 8:18:25 PM

Earl is gonna be real pissed when he sees how much it happened in 2018.

Earl is basically a rightwing hack and should be treated as such.

[Edited on May 13, 2020 at 9:32 PM. Reason : Like seriously he’s indistinguishable from the federalist ]

5/13/2020 9:32:09 PM

We're seeing in real time how the bullshit perpetuates itself. Anyone who doesn't buy Democrat bullshit is automatically accused of buying GOP bullshit and vice versa and shamed until they just go along with it in public. Thats how it picks up steam. In reality, its the hacks for both parties who are the same because they both back the bullshit from their party and call out the same bullshit from the other party.

The difference with me is that I could see that Benghazi and email server scandals were just as much bullshit as Russia.

Thats my crazy notion that the party out of power makes up scandals to try to regain power. Maybe you guys will start to get it when it cycles back around on you.

5/13/2020 11:26:17 PM

Gets a 4 out of 4 on the yawn scale

5/14/2020 12:45:28 AM

https://theintercept.com/2020/05/14/biden-unity-task-force-ocasio-cortez/

good piece on the Biden task forces

5/14/2020 2:01:32 PM

So Biden's position is that he would veto M4A if it passed but I'm supposed to be excited that its co-author is now on a "task force"? Very confusing.

Unless M4A is official party policy, which, it doesn't seem to be, then having Jayapal on the task force is more sheepdog bullshit. The same logic applies to all of the other progressives. I'll believe it when I see it, but until I see it, I'm going to assume its more of the same.

How do you get unity between a paygo party and a task force with stephanie kelton?
Is healthcare "unity" a compromise between medicare for all and obamacare? Do we end up with medicare for some? Thats where the democrat party already was.

Progressives don't want to see progressive people get titles and positions. We want to see progressive policies passed and we only like those people because they seem serious about making that happen. Hearing the same watered down policies but from people we thought were progressive wouldn't win us over. It would just turn us against those people. I hope thats not the master plan.

[Edited on May 14, 2020 at 3:22 PM. Reason : you're not a cynic if you're basing your judgement off the person's entire life of action]

[Edited on May 14, 2020 at 3:27 PM. Reason : but if you believe they will defy reality and become progressive overnight, you're gullible. ]

5/14/2020 3:20:36 PM

Oh, you're a progressive now?

5/14/2020 3:49:24 PM

If you are confused about that then its either because you have a strange definition of progressive or you've been tricked into thinking I'm someone else. I haven't changed.

I do hate labels though because it usually just dissolves into semantic arguments and Joe Fucking Biden self identified as the "candidate with the most progressive record" which obviously means that there are vastly differing definitions of "progressive" out there. My definition of progressive is the opposite of pretty much his entire record.

[Edited on May 14, 2020 at 4:02 PM. Reason : and thats the point. democrats want to be everything to everyone. ]

5/14/2020 4:01:27 PM

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1261122155158351876?s=21

Biden saying if you believe Tara reade don’t vote for him.

5/14/2020 10:36:37 PM

Well at least it isn't hamberders.

5/15/2020 4:47:24 AM

^^ I mean, that was probably the best answer he could have given. Going down the route of 'Well, even if I did do it, it still isn't is bad as Trump' isn't a great look.

5/15/2020 8:10:37 AM

it was a terrible answer, behe.

5/15/2020 8:49:47 AM

I don't have a clue how he should answer the question but it's insane that someone running for president loves telling people not to vote for him

5/15/2020 9:13:56 AM

What was the better answer?

5/15/2020 9:16:10 AM

he's gonna need two vp's at this rate

5/15/2020 10:33:52 AM

I actually thought it was a good answer, as someone inclined to believe reade. If I knew I was innocent it's the kind of answer I would give, it sort of projects a confidence in my innocence IMO.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-74-former-biden-staffers-think-about-tara-reades-allegations

PBS does a deep dive. One new person who worked with Tara confirms she was a bad worker and this is why she had responsibilities taken away.

2 people however confirmed she dressed sluttily for work. Also seems plausible Biden would have ask her to bring his gym bag to him after leaving the gym. After reading this i'm 55/45 that she's not accurately recollecting her interaction with Biden.

5/15/2020 10:48:40 AM

What does how she dressed have to do with anything?

5/15/2020 11:30:54 AM

yeah uh wtf

5/15/2020 11:36:23 AM