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TreeTwista10
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Klobuchar? That will really energize the youth to show up to vote!

5/21/2020 7:23:55 PM

bbehe
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lol, the youth weren't going to show up anyways

5/21/2020 7:26:03 PM

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I think it’s clear that the Klobuchar camp leaked it in an effort to gin up excitement

that never was gonna happen

5/21/2020 7:47:11 PM

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I think it'll likely be Harris, seems like the 'safe' bet. I'd love it to be Duckworth though

5/21/2020 7:48:14 PM

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I think Warren is most likely

5/21/2020 11:43:32 PM

bbehe
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it looks like Tara Reade lied about her undergraduate degree and this might get some other convictions thrown out in cases where she testified as an expert

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/21/tara-reade-biden-expert-testimony-274460

5/22/2020 7:21:43 AM

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Similar story here The New York Times: As Tara Reade’s Expert Witness Credentials Are Questioned, So Are Verdicts.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/politics/tara-reade-credentials.html

5/22/2020 8:24:06 AM

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and her "protected program" of study for domestic violence victims didn't exist?

somebody paint me a picture of why this woman would want to go to these lengths to tar and feather a man she's been publicly praising for decades.

5/22/2020 8:41:52 AM

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I mean, let's ignore the Biden accusation for a second, why would someone lie about their credentials under oath? You're either helping an innocent person get convicted or jeopardizing the welfare of the victim by making it easier for a verdict to be overturned.

Only a sick individual who was truly narcissistic would do that.

5/22/2020 8:49:08 AM

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She is mentally ill and she could blame it on being abused. The only way to circumvent what appears to be a catch-22 is to go after those corroborating the event. Once it deteriorates into a simple 'he said / she said' then it will be overshadowed by his VP pick and eventually go away.

Especially as the states reopening news gets really good or really bad.

I must have missed one thing though... why did she change her name?

5/22/2020 9:34:33 AM

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"I must have missed one thing though... why did she change her name?"


something about being a victim of domestic abuse yada yada yada

5/22/2020 9:36:13 AM

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So is there any chance this gets investigated by any entity besides the media? I assume there is no mechanism for her to sit in front of Congress, Blasey-Ford style (and she shouldn't because it would be horrible).

The reporting now at least seems very good... if a little late. Overall I think Biden can safely go back to business as usual. Telling black people if they don't vote for him they ain't black, for instance.

5/22/2020 9:42:28 AM

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This is the most press Biden has gotten yet. It’s sad the only way to get people to notice you is with antics.

5/22/2020 11:53:07 PM

rwoody
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He's not trying to be noticed

5/23/2020 9:46:27 AM

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^ he’s running for President so I hope you’re wrong...

Biden said the naacp endorses him and the naacp put out a statement saying they don’t endorse candidates.

5/23/2020 11:04:24 AM

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There's also the idea that he's laying low while letting Trump fuckup over and over

They're both walking fuckup machines so might as well let the other guy have the spotlight

5/23/2020 11:40:54 AM

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2016 was essentially the battle of who was out of the news last. Trump’s stupidity and nonsense was overshadowed the last month by Comey and the FBI. It’s obvious that is what caused the polls to tighten.

Trump can’t hide as president. Biden can as a private citizen.

5/23/2020 12:20:39 PM

bbehe
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I mean, what more can he do? He's doing virtual fundraisers, he's made several policy announcements, formed working groups, goes on plenty of interviews...blame the media. The media wants fuck ups or something big like the VP selection.

5/23/2020 12:51:49 PM

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^ I follow Biden on all social media and they do a very mediocre job. Better than Hillary but that’s not saying much. Trumps 2016 campaign was very social media heavy and this plays to their advantage during coronavirus.

A good example is Biden did a live meeting with someone, posting a link on Facebook to YouTube, but it was a dead link. Somehow the YouTube link was set to disallow embed which breaks it on Facebook. Really embarrassing. Meanwhile back in 2016 I was somehow getting push notifications through Facebook when a trump rally went live. If Biden is doing a live stream, his team needs to be pushing it directly to each individual platform. This isn’t hard. It seems whoever is in charge of this is just lazy or incompetent.

Biden was recently posting pictures of his tweets on Facebook, no link to the tweet, or not even just copying and pasting the text. There’s a lot of little things they do wrong from a ux standpoint that trump's team does right. WaPo even had an evaluation of the mobile apps each campaign has and trumps came out on top. They are ready to mobilize voters and I don’t think Biden’s people have their head in the game for what this should look like with coronavirus.

[Edited on May 23, 2020 at 4:36 PM. Reason : ]

5/23/2020 4:35:52 PM

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Social media can help at the fringes. That’s it.

You’d think Bernie’s 2020 primary would hammer that point home. Tbh, the best move Biden’s campaign has ever done is ignore the extremely online. Yeah, people like me are extremely online might not get it at time... but I’m not the median voter.

5/23/2020 4:41:28 PM

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Also, let's not pretend the media didn't amplify the hell out of Trump in 2016 and gave him millions in free media. They would air his rallies almost in their entirety

5/23/2020 4:52:18 PM

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^^
Trump in 2016 put up some very impressive small donor numbers that came through digital. A lot of this is based on extremely disingenuous marketing, but you can’t deny they’re getting outcomes. When coronavirus is going to limit rallies and canvassing efforts, you have to be creative and I don’t see Biden’s team doing this.

5/23/2020 5:54:30 PM

utowncha
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so the media should amplify the hell out of biden too yes? i mean thats what theyre doing right?

5/24/2020 6:37:50 PM

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Not really, tbh.

CNN showed an empty podium for hours at a time waiting for Trump campaign events. Have they even taken one of Biden’s dumb basement events live? I don’t know? Earl, you consume more CNN than anyone on the face of the earth? Have they?

5/24/2020 6:44:06 PM

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Yes and no. They're amplifying his gaffes, but everything else he does gets minimal coverage. With Trump in 2016, they'd literally just air his rally. He got roughly 2-5 Billion in free media exposure, which is insane

5/24/2020 6:48:28 PM

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If it bleeds, it leads...

5/24/2020 9:19:13 PM

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"On annexation of the West Bank, Washington Democrats have raised the white flag https://t.co/zC50XW5Oex"


This not only hits on the weak policy position, but hits at the people yelling "what else can he do" about Corona or any other active policy. The man is the presumptive leader of the Dem party and would whip votes simply by coming out in favor of a policy.

5/25/2020 11:49:00 AM

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Just curious, are you going to attempt to defend BDS from being beyond criticism or no?

[Edited on May 25, 2020 at 1:23 PM. Reason : a]

5/25/2020 1:23:06 PM

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What is wrong with boycotting an apartheid state?

Are you going to defend Democrats’ tacit approval of West Bank annexation?

[Edited on May 25, 2020 at 5:11 PM. Reason : .]

5/25/2020 5:11:01 PM

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I have zero problems with someone wanting to boycott Israel. The BDS movement is disorganized with too many groups 'leading' it, as stated in my previous post, some of those groups are using it as a thin veneer to support Antisemitism and to encourage violence against civilian populations.

I have zero problems with people being critical of Israeli policies, because god knows they deserve it.

I am vehemently opposed to annexation, but don't think now is the time for Biden to whipping votes on it. I'd rather see the situation play out with Gantz who made a key veto a few months ago.

I do think the comparison to BLM is laughable. I'm not going to defend the harsh actions of the Israeli military, but I'm also not going to defend the shooting rockets at civilian targets.


[Edited on May 25, 2020 at 6:41 PM. Reason : a]

5/25/2020 6:37:32 PM

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Trump attacking Biden for...:checks notes: wearing a CDC recommended mask

5/25/2020 8:49:33 PM

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/26/california-tara-reade-investigation-283592

Apparently reade lied about an undergrad degree but did actually graduate law school. California is now reviewing her work as an expert witness for domestic violence cases to see if she might have lied under oath

5/27/2020 1:42:22 AM

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I wonder what exactly makes her undergrad questionable? Did she drop out? Did she have weird substitutions?

Didn't she have some story about the Dean or whatever letting her graduate? That would indicate the latter and they wanted to get rid of her.

5/27/2020 10:31:12 AM

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Not to rehash a story, since moron is usually a week late in posting things.

She attended for 3 semesters, took 31 hours. She claims she had an arrangement with the Dean to graduate by showing she did course work. The University denies all of this.

5/27/2020 10:39:19 AM

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oh jesus you know whats gonna happen? some instructor or program chair gave her a bunch of "I - incompletes" with no end date. And she's gonna show up with all that old-ass work.

5/27/2020 10:41:46 AM

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she wouldn't have been able to attend graduate school without an undergrad degree. this media smearing of her character is gross and it's why women are afraid to come forward against powerful men.

5/27/2020 10:42:51 AM

bbehe
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Of course Dave doesn't believe the University

5/27/2020 10:43:54 AM

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did she say why she dropped out? has she blamed it on trauma?

5/27/2020 10:53:06 AM

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/oath-biden-accuser-tara-reade-cited-bidens-work/story?id=70829512

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"After questions about her testimony surfaced, Reade provided the New York Times with a screenshot of a school transcript from Antioch University, which showed her department as “BA Completion” but left blank the “date conferred” and “degree conferred.” She told the Times that, to help protect her new identity from her allegedly abusive ex-husband, the school’s then-president, Tullise Murdock, helped secretly bestow a “fast-tracked” degree upon her.

But Hamilton, the Antioch spokeswoman, told the Times that Murdock denied any such arrangement."


It's far more likely that the school is missing records of the arrangement than it is for Seattle University to have admitted Reade to law school without an undergraduate degree.

And this is entirely irrelevant either way. It's what Fox News does every time a black man is murdered by the police. "He was arrested one time so he's obviously a pathological criminal and liar"

It's fucking gross and you're fucking gross for focusing on these character smears rather than the rape accusation.

[Edited on May 27, 2020 at 10:57 AM. Reason : ,]

5/27/2020 10:54:34 AM

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"Reade claimed she had earned her bachelor's degree from Antioch University in Seattle under a "protected program." But university officials told Politico that Reade only attended for three academic quarters and did not graduate, and denied that she had a special arrangement to earn her degree."


That's it.

5/27/2020 10:55:03 AM

bbehe
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Dave, there is not a single record or witness that can backup what she claims. They asked the dean if he ever made such an arrangement, he said no.

Unofficial transcripts are jokes, just word docs that can be manipulated. Hence 'unofficial'

5/27/2020 10:56:39 AM

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"Dave, there is not a single record or witness that can backup what she claims"


Her graduate degree

5/27/2020 10:57:51 AM

utowncha
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did she attend another school before that one? maybe there were 100 substitutions that never got made!

5/27/2020 10:58:50 AM

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Ah yeah I guess if it can be proved she lied about her undergraduate degree, that means she also lied about being raped.

Weird how the rape victim is being held to a higher standard than the rapist.

5/27/2020 11:07:21 AM

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I mean, I agree with behe a helluva lot more often than I do dave, but it's a damn fact this sort of handshake deal regarding graduation happens all the time at colleges.

Someone could have easily not submitted the required paperwork after said deal was made, no reflection at all on the student, and it makes the school look bad for handing out degrees (so of course they deny if no trail exists).

Because it 100% happens and is 100% flimsy it's absolutely no reason to dismiss something as serious as rape.

Dave is also right regarding graduate school. One phonecall to confirm the process is working to get her a degree, they accept her, the first school fucks up, but then nobody cares until years later. Also a common occurrence*

[Edited on May 27, 2020 at 11:15 AM. Reason : EDIT]

5/27/2020 11:13:38 AM

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Her graduate degree does not certify she had an undergrad. Mistakes could have been made, she could have lied about it, etc. There is no evidence to support she obtained her undergraduate degree.

She lied about these credentials under oath, her testimony as an 'expert' witness was lauded as instrumental to getting people convicted. So she either lied and got innocent people thrown in jail or lied and made it easier for guilty people to get out of jail on appeals.

5/27/2020 11:14:22 AM

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"focusing on these character smears rather than the rape accusation."


first of all, this is a fair point. the right typically trashes any whistleblower or accuser or victim in order to divert focus. so it's a great thing for them to be able to accuse the left of doing so.

second, i may be off, but was there rape accusation? i thought the accusation was that he digitally penetrated her in a hallway. is this classified as rape (as far as legal terms)?

i have been ignoring her because a) her name is tara reade for crying out loud and b)she's accusing biden of something the current president has admitted to doing. this country has allowed grabbing a woman by the pussy to be normalized. so, while i doubt any of this even happened, if it did, biden is composing himself like a president.

5/27/2020 11:14:57 AM

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"She lied about these credentials under oath,"


Plausible deniability. She might have assumed the school, based on whatever deal, was completing paperwork I mentioned to get her a degree. She might have assumed this actually happened if she got into law school and then never gave it a second thought, including when she was on the stand.

I'm going way out on a limb here... I am not voting for Trump... but this scenario is plausible and we are talking about rape.

5/27/2020 11:17:04 AM

bbehe
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There are other aspects of her testimony that may be lies, such as her inflating her position in Biden's office and taken the bar exam

5/27/2020 11:19:22 AM

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Jesus Christ, this is getting tiresome, but I don't know what her claims are about the bar exam so you can educate me on that one.

Oftentimes a LOSER will get a job that seems important to them and brag about it. Also not a reason to let powerful men put their fingers in you.

5/27/2020 11:21:40 AM

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