This guy is an absolute moron.

3/24/2017 10:40:57 AM

canceled the open meeting to move it behind doors

republicans are complicit

3/24/2017 12:07:54 PM

I saw several people report the WH thought Comey on Monday was going to cometely absolve the Trump WH. They had no idea what was coming and it's fairly obvious Nunes didn't either since they are obviously closely communicating.

Cancelling the open hearing next week is so obviously done as damage control. It's like he is purposefully suiciding his own commission.

3/24/2017 12:19:48 PM

There was a ton of Republican defense of Nixon until it got to the absolute last point where they couldn't defend him any longer.

I guess we're seeing this with Trump now.

Except, this Russia stuff is far worse than the Watergate situation. That was a crime, to be sure. This is very much within the boundaries of treason.

3/24/2017 12:39:33 PM

I'm still wondering if this was all a cheap distraction to buy a week or two of maneuvering and obfuscating for Trump?

Quote :

"3/22/2017 6:33:37 PM TerdFerguson All American 4888 Posts user info edit post What are the chances Nunes made all of this up to "vindicate" trump's tweets (that's what they'll claim)? The FBI may not be in a position to refute (they need Justice dept approval) for some time, Nunes didn't share with other cmte members because he has no evidence. They limped along using that "wiretapp" tweetstorm as a distraction/crutch for 2 weeksish, maybe they are hoping to stretch it another 2? Believing that requires the assumption that the FBI is very close to arresting someone. The only reason I question it is he was literally bitching about illegal leaks 2 days ago and the 2nd thing he does is call a press conference? No one is that stupid. [Edited on March 22, 2017 at 7:07 PM. Reason : ???] 3/22/2017 6:59:42 PM"

Edit:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nunes-backs-down-assertion-trump-was-monitored-n738151

Quote :

" Rep. Devin Nunes told reporters Friday he can't be sure whether conversations among Trump or his aides were captured in the surveillance that has become a source of controversy since Nunes made it public in two news conferences this week."

[Edited on March 24, 2017 at 12:58 PM. Reason : I trust this dude like a hole in my head]

3/24/2017 12:42:04 PM

Distraction makes sense. Nunes being "alarmed" by anything he saw is proof he doesn't belong on this committee.

What the hell are his credentials that put him on an intel committee to begin with?

My take is this:
1) He received information from the White House, possibly anonymously, and then ran to the White House to say "look, Trump's name isn't masked," even though the information itself was collected legally and was not directed at Trump (that is, the information was a result on spying on foreigners).

2) He received information from NSA/FBI and then ran to the White House to say "look, Trump's name isn't masked," even though the information itself was collected legally and was not directed at Trump (that is, the information was a result on spying on foreigners).

Either one of those details three facts:
1) Trump/Aides information was discovered via spying
2) That spying was legal and was not targeted at Trump/Aides
3) Nunes does not appear to want this investigation to move forward or is at the least trying to delay it

My guess: GOP is trying to do several things before the seemingly inevitable fall of Trump & Friends:
1) Pass legislation such as the health care bill while they have a moron in office who will sign whatever they send.

2) Strategize for how the fuck they'll handle the midterms (it's here I think they are actually hurting themselves bad by being so against these investigations).

3) Strategize for how to either distance themselves or blame Democrats for the Trump/Russia thing (at least from a political spin perspective as it relates to future campaigning).

[Edited on March 24, 2017 at 1:06 PM. Reason : a]

3/24/2017 1:04:57 PM

Nunes refused to deny that the intelligence that he received about the the incidental surveillance being collected and shared didn't come from the white house itself.

The white house probably provided that intelligence so that Nunes could then make his big show of things

3/24/2017 1:06:52 PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/house-intelligence-committee-devin-nunes-donald-trump-paul-manafort-campaign-chairman-russia-ukraine-a7648546.html

3/24/2017 1:39:00 PM

Sorry for the double post.

I find it funny that after this Nunes nonsense, suddenly Paul Manafort, Carter Page and Roger Stone are now all volunteering to testify.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politics/roger-stone-carter-page-testify-house-intelligence-committee/index.html

3/24/2017 1:44:10 PM

Paste did a 5 part series about the Trump -Russia connections

The Kremlin’s Man: How Donald Trump’s Own Words Connect him to Russia (Part 1 of 5)
https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/03/the-kremlins-man-how-donald-trumps-own-words-conne.html

3/24/2017 2:49:00 PM

Don't believe it but lots of twitter buzz about Flynn and FBI.

[Edited on March 25, 2017 at 4:22 PM. Reason : Still could be no fire, but damn there is a lot of smoke here.]

3/25/2017 4:21:42 PM

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/25/tony-shaffer-donald-trump-wiretapping-case-worse-watergate-not-russian

The reporting differences in this are insane

3/25/2017 8:40:42 PM

Russia is now threatening to release info about Obama if the investigation leaks continue

3/26/2017 9:00:39 PM

Who gets unfettered access to the WH grounds but isn't part of the executive?

Because Nunes met with his "source" on the WH grounds and has yet to categorically deny his source is actually the White House.

Odd.

3/27/2017 10:31:55 AM

was that when he jumped out of the uber?:

Quote :

"Lawmaker's 'peculiar midnight run' endangers Trump-Russia inquiry House intelligence chair Devin Nunes reportedly disappeared from Uber ride, fueling further questions over his role in committee’s investigation"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/26/trump-russia-investigation-house-intelligence-devin-nunes

3/27/2017 11:51:11 AM

In all seriousness Nunes probably isn't a terribly smart guy. I don't think he did anything terrible aside from haphazardly try and give Don a cover for his impulsive lies.

3/27/2017 12:12:17 PM

he absolutely got played

3/27/2017 12:18:53 PM

It is beyond compromised. We need an independent investigation!

3/27/2017 12:19:41 PM

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-03-27/devin-nunes-explains-his-white-house-visit

This is more in-depth and it does make it seem like some handling of information was disseminated improperly perhaps.

Also keep in mind this particular BB view columnist is very obviously pro-Trump.

3/27/2017 12:54:03 PM

That any unmasking was improper is a pretty big assumption by Nunes.

3/27/2017 1:26:28 PM

other reports have said that everything was masked, but that there was enough context left in that you could still tell who it was

^^that read pretty fair to me

3/27/2017 2:33:47 PM

Just to clarify... are we still at 7 pages, 0 evidence ITT?

3/27/2017 4:31:02 PM

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-time/Report-Jared-Kushner-had-undisclosed-meeting-with-head-of-Russian-bank-under-sanctions.html

Trump is all about some secret meetings with Russia. And Kushner isn't even an elected rep or a diplomat. This is pretty bonkers...

3/27/2017 4:31:30 PM

Nunes scraps all Intelligence Cmte meetings this week. Dude is guilty AF. Time to call ol' Dick Burr again, I guess.

3/28/2017 9:15:30 AM

In all honesty, these dumb committees are all for show anyway. Devon Nunes is a hack who is acting quite odd but if anything illegal happened it isn't going to be him who breaks it.

3/28/2017 10:05:22 AM

New drinking game: drink for every qualifying/modifying word that the leftist media puts in their headlines to stretch their accusations.

Info suggests Trump associates may have coordinated with Russians

CHUG!

3/28/2017 10:20:05 AM

Lol, guy who spews a steady stream of right-wing echo-chamber buzzwords tries to make a drinking game joke. That's funny!

3/28/2017 10:38:06 AM

hey idiot:

Quote :

"i'd encourage everyone to just ignore JCE2011 in this thread, it should be obvious to you that he is trolling and has no interest in a good intentioned debate or discussion"

3/28/2017 10:40:24 AM

I mean, they are either guilty as hell or literally the dumbest people alive. I don't know how you could make this look any more like a cover up.

3/28/2017 10:50:14 AM

Quote :

"In all honesty, these dumb committees are all for show anyway."

care to expand on this?

[Edited on March 28, 2017 at 11:17 AM. Reason : .]

3/28/2017 10:59:49 AM

In other words if something actually illegal went on there is an independent FBI investigation already going on.

For show was a bad choice of words as it is important to provide PUBLIC oversight but just because Nunes is protecting the WH from this particular committee doesn't mean they are protected from other oversight and legal issues.

3/28/2017 11:10:18 AM

Quote :

"In other words if something actually illegal went on"

Such as the illegal leaking of classified information from Obama's deep state to Obama's media

3/28/2017 11:24:58 AM

Quote :

"i'd encourage everyone to just ignore JCE2011 in this thread, it should be obvious to you that he is trolling and has no interest in a good intentioned debate or discussion"

3/28/2017 11:28:49 AM

I like how you accuse me of having no interest in a "debate" as you hide in your conspiracy-theory echo-chamber and post spam anytime someone reminds you there is

NO

EVIDENCE

3/28/2017 11:44:11 AM

Quote :

"i'd encourage everyone to just ignore JCE2011 in this thread, it should be obvious to you that he is trolling and has no interest in a good intentioned debate or discussion"

3/28/2017 12:48:19 PM

Quote :

"Asked by a Fox News reporter whether he would inform the other committee members about who gave him the reports he viewed on the White House grounds last week, Nunes said: "We will never reveal those sources and methods.""

It was made up.

But Nunes was still at the whitehouse for some reason. Getting their stories straight?

[Edited on March 28, 2017 at 8:19 PM. Reason : Or maybe the intel Nunes saw implicated him. That'd be a good twist.]

3/28/2017 8:18:53 PM

If you follow any NatSec experts (who are probably only marginally more trustworthy than the Trump team) they seem to think the most likely is that Trump's team was intercepted talking to foreign leaders who would have been surveilled regularly and that the only unmasked names would have been for those that had intelligence relevance (Nunes even admitted this).

Also, this only became an issue because, shocked, Trump's transition team broke precedent and worked outside of state department for reaching out to foreign leaders.

[Edited on March 29, 2017 at 8:11 AM. Reason : This whole thing is so obviously an attempt to give Trump cover to move goalposts re: tweets]

3/29/2017 8:10:36 AM

Nunes canceled the hearing because the lawyer for former acting AG Sally Yates sent a letter stating that presidential privilege had been waived as a results of the public comments and Yates planned on testifying

3/29/2017 9:45:53 AM

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39435786

Trump Russia dossier key claim 'verified'

Quote :

"The BBC has learned that US officials "verified" a key claim in a report about Kremlin involvement in Donald Trump's election - that a Russian diplomat in Washington was in fact a spy."

3/29/2017 11:17:13 PM

The hearing in the Senate on Russian interference is fascinating. Doesn't have anything much to do with the explicit Trump team connections but is so interesting.

3/30/2017 12:06:39 PM

Yea today was a preliminary hearing, really. But it was definitely interesting.

I still have confidence in the Senate investigation.

^^thank you for that link, fascinating.

[Edited on March 30, 2017 at 1:15 PM. Reason : a]

3/30/2017 1:11:23 PM

With Burr in charge? I have my doubts.

3/30/2017 1:16:05 PM

Until he starts handling himself the way that retard Nunes has, I am not afraid to place confidence in Burr.

3/30/2017 1:19:11 PM

https://nyti.ms/2oD5aCS

Haven't delved yet but saw it cross...

3/30/2017 1:29:56 PM

Right wing media is going nuts over this Farkus(sp?) interview on MSNBC that took place earlier this month. Anybody think that has any credibility? They are basically saying that it is an admission that intelligence officials unmasked Americans that were recorded during routine and lawful surveillance of Russian diplomats, and then unlawfully leaked the unmasked names to others.

3/30/2017 1:51:54 PM

It's possible. There was concern about losing evidence and focus on the Russia/Trump stuff so it actually wouldn't surprise me if people unmasked certain names in an effort to keep the media's focus on it long enough to build up enough support for an investigation. Flynn wouldn't even have resigned if it hadn't been for the media rightfully pursuing it and considering how against this shit Republicans have been, people were likely fearful that the GOP would just allow this to be covered up so they could fuck with people's health care.

^^that's a good article to read.

I have to ask an honest question - were Democrats against investigating both the Benghazi thing and the Hillary Email Server to this degree?

If they really were, I guess I can understand the GOP giving them a taste of their own medicine. But I honestly don't recall Democrats causing this much trouble in an investigation. The GOP is basically like "shit our President might have committed treason and a bunch of his friends probably did but we care more about fucking people out of health insurance than that."

[Edited on March 30, 2017 at 1:59 PM. Reason : a]

3/30/2017 1:54:51 PM

it was really easy for trump to move the goalposts for the media

regarding the unmasked names, that is only nunes, other reporting was that they were masked. also he says trump associates, trump associates could be foreign in which case i'm not sure its normal to mask them

3/30/2017 2:13:53 PM

yea that's what i was also thinking. they typically keep an american's name unmasked if it's either very obvious who it is or if it's necessary to understand context

3/30/2017 4:13:45 PM

https://twitter.com/wsj/status/847576806307897348

Ohhhhh?

3/30/2017 6:31:53 PM

If that is true, that is EXACTLY what I was expecting would happen with Flynn.

Quote :

"WASHINGTON—Mike Flynn, President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, has told the Federal Bureau of Investigation and congressional officials investigating the Trump campaign’s potential ties to Russia that he is willing to be interviewed in exchange for a grant of immunity from prosecution, according to officials with knowledge of the matter. As an adviser to Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign, and later one of Mr. Trump’s top aides in the White House, Mr. Flynn was privy to some of the most sensitive foreign-policy deliberations of the new administration and was directly involved in discussions about the possible lifting of sanctions on Russia imposed by the Obama administration. He has made the offer to the FBI and the House and Senate intelligence committees though his lawyer but has so far found no takers, the officials said. Mr. Flynn’s attorney, Robert Kelner, declined to comment."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-flynn-offers-to-testify-in-exchange-for-immunity-1490912959?mod=e2tw

[Edited on March 30, 2017 at 6:52 PM. Reason : a]

3/30/2017 6:48:12 PM