cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5ngy-0LE8 12/3/2013 7:49:04 AM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Still credible.
Also, I just hope Vandy doesn't get pushed around too much when we start playing decent competition. 12/4/2013 8:42:23 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
i love you 12/4/2013 9:06:18 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
i love you 12/4/2013 9:07:08 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
vandenberg is king 12/4/2013 9:28:32 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
This man is playing his way into the draft 12/4/2013 9:29:45 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
definitely not the same V'Berg as we saw last year. 12/4/2013 9:46:00 PM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bret Strelow ?@bretstrelow 4m "It was awesome for a good month and a half until I stepped on the scales and was like, oh wow." Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More
Bret Strelow ?@bretstrelow 4m Comfort food? "You couldn't name something I didn't eat. Any kind of fast food. Any kind of burger. It was awesome." Expand Reply Retweet Favorite More
Bret Strelow ?@bretstrelow 6m "It was a sad time my losing all my teammates. I had my comfort food, after that I realized, oh god, they're all gone, I might have to play" Expand Reply Retweet Favorited More
Bret Strelow ?@bretstrelow 7m Jordan Vandenberg, who trimmed down this offseason after gaining a lot of weight at the end of last season ..." |
Post-game Vanden-Quotes. Read from bottom to top.12/4/2013 10:06:05 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "oh god, they're all gone, I might have to play" |
LOL
I love this guy.12/4/2013 10:09:28 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
he went from I'berg to V'berg 12/4/2013 10:13:07 PM |
stillrolling All American 1225 Posts user info edit post |
requesting a synapse breakdown of who said Vandenberg could be serviceable this year v. who said it was impossible so that we may call the nay-sayers shitty fans 12/4/2013 10:21:29 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I am going to make up for my awful career with this season, I shall make people believe i wasn't a waste of height and scholarship"" |
12/4/2013 10:31:56 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
I'm so proud of Vandy. It must have sucked to sit on the bench like that for four years. He worked hard to get in shape and now he's playing a huge role in the squad. 12/4/2013 10:34:46 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
why does the gif i made always load so slowly...is gifsoup always that slow? 12/4/2013 10:38:51 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
imgur is where it's at 12/4/2013 10:39:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
convert youtube to gif at gifsoup then upload to imgur? 12/4/2013 10:43:05 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
STILL PLENTY OF ROOM ON THE VANDWAGON 12/4/2013 10:43:26 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
It must have sucked been awesome to eat garbage, get a free ride, and sit on the bench like that for four years. 12/4/2013 11:03:46 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
I am very glad to see Vandy playing well so far, but damn where was this last year? Dude could have played a huge role on our team considering we had exactly two front court players and would stick Warren at the 4 to fill in for Fowell and CJ Biscuit.
[Edited on December 5, 2013 at 7:31 AM. Reason : h] 12/5/2013 7:31:25 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^ Last year he was fat, had terrible fundamentals, and committed way too many unnecessary fouls. Thus, he couldn't help us.
Props to Vandenberg for rededicating himself in all areas in the off season. He actually has very good agility for his size when fit and healthy, and it is much easier to have good footwork and move on the court without carrying the extra baggage. Hopefully he is an example for Anya, who can still improve his body before his Sophomore year.
[Edited on December 5, 2013 at 8:13 AM. Reason : .] 12/5/2013 8:12:04 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Lol at people now complaining because Vandy wasn't this productive in the past. 12/5/2013 9:03:31 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
who's going to go back and find all the posters that claimed he'd always be a waste of a scholarship and anyone who thought he could play basketball was stupid? (again, i hesitate to say this, as I know it's still early in the season) 12/5/2013 9:21:05 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Lol at people now complaining because Vandy wasn't this productive in the past." |
I guess you can call it complaining, but really it is a legit question to ask. Why did it take Vandy 4 years to dedicate himself to getting in shape and improving his game? Honestly if he could have given us 15 solid minutes a game last season, it could have made a big difference in how our season went.12/5/2013 9:54:49 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
from everything we have heard, it sounds like the locker room and team chemistry was pretty toxic in the past. improving chemistry and locker room can go a long way to getting players to buy in and commit, maybe its a sign that we have finally turned a corner. 12/5/2013 10:07:29 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure Sidney Lowe's coaching didn't help. The horror stories I've heard about the last coaching staff are border line absurd and unbelievable BUT believable at the same time
If that makes sense.
Point being ... When gottfried got here things changed for the positive. He gambled on JV and saw the potential all while creating a new Richard Howell
it took some tough love from the fans and coaches to get JV over the hill. But it all paid off. Remember he was threatened with being let go if he didn't make coaches weight goal.
He knows this is his last chance...he gives a fuck and it shows. If he continues to play this way then he will be drafted 12/5/2013 10:34:20 AM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "requesting a synapse breakdown of who said Vandenberg could be serviceable this year v. who said it was impossible so that we may call the nay-sayers shitty fans" |
Questioning TBDV's serviceability doesn't make anyone a shitty fan, especially considering his past performance.12/5/2013 10:35:04 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Call me delusional, but I'm actually hoping that Gott turned a corner with this gig. Meaning he actually did all the things he said he did when he was working for ESPN (studying other coaches, going to practices) and he actually does emphasize defense and rebounding, but our lack of those things in the past two seasons was just a carryover from the "Club Lowe" days. 12/5/2013 10:41:38 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^^but being a jerk and calling one of our own "garbage" and being certain that he'll always be terrible and stuff kinda makes you a shitty fan 12/5/2013 11:02:25 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
If he developes a midrange and short baseline jumper then oh my god watch out 12/5/2013 11:29:41 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not complaining he didn't contribute in the past. 7 footers that are solid contributors before their juniiur year are the exception. I was just bluntly responding to the "why didn't we use him last year" type comments. 12/5/2013 12:36:31 PM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but being a jerk and calling one of our own "garbage" and being certain that he'll always be terrible and stuff kinda makes you a shitty fan" |
I can't disagree, but that's a few steps beyond questioning someone's serviceability.12/5/2013 12:46:36 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
he was our #2 returning stunna from last year 12/5/2013 12:53:04 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I just want to make sure everyone is still posting his funny tweets (since I don't twitter). I don't want to miss anything with all of this bitch fighting going around. 12/5/2013 12:57:13 PM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If he continues to play this way then he will be drafted" |
This is a good point. Alex Len averaged 12 pts, 8 rebounds, and 2 blocks a game last year and went fifth overall...
If Vandy could hold it together this season and even cough improve cough he could be getting paid.12/5/2013 1:01:24 PM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Think this one is in the lead at the moment
Quote : | "It was a sad time my losing all my teammates. I had my comfort food, after that I realized, oh god, they're all gone, I might have to play" |
12/5/2013 1:29:54 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i'm still just cautiously optimistic about him until we play a real team 12/5/2013 1:58:02 PM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Through 3 games, he's averaging 11 points, 7 boards, 3 blocks (Duke is averaging 3 as an entire team), and 1 assist in 27 minutes, leading the team[!] with a .696 FG rate, and nearly leading the team with only .7 turnovers a game.] 12/5/2013 2:07:33 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
^^ What would you consider our first real game? Virginia? 12/5/2013 2:13:14 PM |
dingus All American 552 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I guess you can call it complaining, but really it is a legit question to ask. Why did it take Vandy 4 years to dedicate himself to getting in shape and improving his game? Honestly if he could have given us 15 solid minutes a game last season, it could have made a big difference in how our season went." |
As frustrating as it can be to think about what went through vandy's mind, you have to remember that these guys are just kids in their late teens/early twenties, and maturity is something that just develops whenever it develops. Shit didn't click with vandy until now for whatever reason. I know I'd tell my younger self to take shit a little more seriously. Luckily for him and us as fans, a lightbulb went off and he gained some perspective. It can be a lot to ask of someone to grow up early.12/5/2013 2:16:34 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Through 3 games, he's averaging 11 points, 7 boards, 3 blocks (Duke is averaging 3 as an entire team), and 1 assist in 27 minutes, leading the team[!] with a .696 FG rate, and nearly leading the team with only .7 turnovers a game." |
I'll eat all of the words, but I would love to see this continue through league play.12/5/2013 2:37:08 PM |
WAR Veteran 368 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The horror stories I've heard about the last coaching staff are border line absurd and unbelievable BUT believable at the same time " |
Could elaborate on that gunzz or at least point me to where I could read these stories?12/5/2013 4:06:07 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
I think he might be referring to this, but god only knows what else went on.
http://www.backingthepack.com/2011/12/20/2650163/more-details-emerge-about-club-lowe 12/5/2013 4:14:44 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
He had 90 points total in the first four years of his career. Already has 33 through 3 games. 12/5/2013 6:32:41 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Nate Irving ?@JusSayNate 1h Can you block people on snapchat?
Jordan Vandenberg ?@jpv14wolfpack 1h @JusSayNate yes 12/5/2013 6:36:29 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
speaking of vandy & nate...
Nate Irving ?@JusSayNate 27 Nov In case no one else told you....good morning beautiful
Jordan Vandenberg ?@jpv14wolfpack 27 Nov @JusSayNate thank you 12/5/2013 6:42:09 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
lol...wtf? 12/6/2013 3:16:42 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Those two would make a great sitcom 12/6/2013 6:07:31 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Vandy is at the bobcats game tonite. Jordan will probably take him in the lottery 12/9/2013 7:34:08 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Jordan getting some press:
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/12/11/3453236/jacobs-nc-states-jordan-vandenberg.html 12/12/2013 10:16:48 AM |
synapse play so hard 60938 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There he sat, more or less hidden in plain sight on the N.C. State bench. It’s not easy for a 7-foot-1 player to blend into his surroundings, but Jordan Vandenberg managed.
Since arriving from Australia in 2009, injuries, a weight problem, a logjam of talent in the frontcourt and what coaches considered a lack of urgency relegated Vandenberg to a role primarily modeling red and white warm-ups on the sideline.
This season, though, the long-term investment is paying dividends. A redshirt senior, Vandenberg has emerged as a key component on an unusually inexperienced Wolfpack squad, starting the four games for which he’s been healthy after an early ankle injury. In four previous seasons, he likewise had four starts.
“I had a bunch of good, quality players playing ahead of me; it wasn’t like I came in and I was terrible,” Vandenberg said with a modest Australian twang. “Now everyone’s out (of) the way. The freshmen aren’t going to play over me. It’s my time to do what I can do.”
Comparably late bloomers popped up elsewhere in the ACC in recent years, from oft-injured 7-footer Brian Zoubek, a stalwart senior on Duke’s 2010 NCAA championship squad, to David Neal, a gritty career backup who became a 2009 starter in his final season at Maryland. Now Vandenberg, a strikingly mobile big man, has a chance to make a similarly unanticipated impact.
“I think he helps us in a lot of ways because he takes the pressure off (the other frontcourt) guys a little bit,” coach Mark Gottfried said last week. “I think he’s protected the rim pretty well so far. He’s altering shots, he’s blocking a few. I think our guys are gaining confidence in him as well. I think we’re a much different team when he plays well for us.”
Vandenberg has shown plenty of complementary skills. He has a nifty hook shot and ranks fourth on the team in scoring average (8.8 points) entering Saturday’s home game against Detroit.
Disruptive presence
Vandenberg, a business management major with a concentration in human resources, takes pleasure in serving as “a facilitator” on the court, as he called it. So far he has five assists against two turnovers.
“I love threading passes. I can hit anybody on the hands, that’s what I like to do,” he said.
Only freshman forward Lennard Freeman rebounds at a faster per-minute rate. The current team struggled with rebounding, particularly at the defensive end, until Vanderberg joined the starting lineup. Since then N.C. State has held the edge on the boards and won four straight, improving to 6-2.
Vandenberg is an unusually disruptive presence on defense, an area where Gottfried’s first two Wolfpack squads were undistinguished at best.
Northwestern came to the RBC Center this month for the Big Ten-ACC Challenge and was routed 69-48. The Wildcats’ 25percent field goal accuracy was the worst by an opponent during Gottfried’s tenure and lowest against N.C. State since 2008.
After the game, Chris Collins, Northwestern’s first-year coach, saluted Vandenberg’s contributions, including five blocks.
“He’s a real presence for them defensively,” said Collins, a former Duke assistant. “It made it hard for us to score inside.”
Unlike many young shot blockers, Vandenberg’s rejections are made under control; he doesn’t revel in drawing attention by seeing how far into the stands he can swat the ball.
“I’m not trying to play for my own personal glory,” he said repeatedly during an interview this week. “I’m trying to get my team somewhere.”
The lefty already has a dozen blocks even as he smooths rusty timing. His average of three blocked shots per outing would lead the ACC if he’d played in 75 percent of N.C. State’s games, the standard to qualify officially. Project that propensity across at least two dozen more games, and Vandenberg could finish among the school’s top 10 single-season leaders in blocked shots.
Comfortable in Raleigh
Vandenberg began playing basketball 20 years ago. By the time he was ready for college, his size, athleticism and basketball intelligence drew the attention of recruiters from Southern California, Boise State, St. Mary’s, Nevada and N.C. State, among others.
He wanted to play in a power conference and felt comfortable when he visited Raleigh. Melbourne, Australia’s second-largest city (after Sydney) with 4.25 million residents, “is kind of like Raleigh because the weather is a little unpredictable,” Vandenberg said. “Raleigh feels very similar.”
Melbourne also has a strong basketball tradition. Among its contributions to the sport are former Seton Hall star Andrew Gaze; native son Kyrie Irving, who grew up in New Jersey and played for Duke in 2011; and Vandenberg’s sister, 6-6 Jacinta Vandenberg, the starting center at Fresno State.
Players from overseas aren’t all that common in the ACC or at N.C. State, where during the 1990s xenophobic students chanted “USA! USA!” as soon as North Carolina’s Henrik Rodl, a native of Germany, took the court. Counting Vandenberg, the Wolfpack has listed seven foreign players on its rosters over the past dozen years.
He said he’s well-received in Raleigh. Asked the most common misconceptions he’s encountered about his country, he listed “everyone thinks we own kangaroos, and we don’t, and everyone thinks we lag behind in technology and we definitely are not behind in technology.”
‘I’m still here’
The Wolfpack program also has had few “footers,” as Vandenberg put it. The last was Bartosz Lewandowski, a 7-3 Pole who played one minute in 2007. The modern game has moved away from the primacy of big, low-post players, anyway. Yet, with new rule interpretations making it tougher to contain ball handlers as they attack the basket, having a player such as Vandenberg guarding the rim is a bonus.
A belated bonus, to be sure. “It’s been rough, but I’m still here,” said Vandenberg, 23, the squad’s sole senior.
Gottfried conceded that Vandenberg’s arrested development and his seeming contentment to wait his turn proved frustrating in the past. Before last season, Gottfried publicly urged the 264-pounder to lose weight, including the small pot belly he’d acquired.
“I told him if it’s ever as big as mine, he’s in trouble,” Gottfried joked.
Yet little changed.
“I’m not exactly sure what that was about,” Gottfried said.
Vandenberg’s playing time actually decreased in 2013 compared to his healthy 2010 and 2011 seasons.
This past offseason, saddened to see most of his long-time teammates depart, Vandenberg succumbed to binging on fast foods.
“I just ate a lot for like a month,” he said. “I didn’t care. We didn’t have a game anytime soon.”
After weighing himself, he worked back into the best shape of his career.
Basketball wisdom has it that big men tend to blossom later than other players. Gottfried ascribed Vandenberg’s belated emergence to a more basic process.
“He got tired of watching,” he said. “With C.J. Leslie and Richard Howell finally leaving, obviously (he had) an opportunity that was staring him in the face, a golden opportunity, and he took advantage of that.”
Much to N.C. State’s benefit.
Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/12/11/3453236/jacobs-nc-states-jordan-vandenberg.html#storylink=cpy" |
12/12/2013 1:05:50 PM |