Clayton White is coming back to State (safeties coach, maybe?)

http://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-football/hc-uconn-football-white-1222-20121221,0,2261375.story

12/21/2012 2:11:54 PM

I wonder how Amerson feels about dick mcnutt

12/21/2012 3:37:48 PM

How many positions do we have left?

12/21/2012 4:11:58 PM

none.

12/21/2012 4:19:55 PM

so what's the overall feeling of this group of hires?

[Edited on December 21, 2012 at 7:28 PM. Reason : ]

12/21/2012 7:28:17 PM

Aside from the concerns about recruiting, which happens to be all the fucks, I feel good about the staff he's assembled.

12/21/2012 8:52:12 PM

^^ my question as well

12/22/2012 2:59:40 AM

Are you fans of some other team and don't feel qualified to answer? I just don't understand who the question is directed to? Who even would determine whether there was an "overall" consesus about anything that happens to State? Why don't you provide your thoughts and we'll see where it all shakes out?

12/22/2012 10:57:12 AM

I'm not answering b/c I don't know jack shit about position coaches from the midwest

12/22/2012 11:05:16 AM

Me either. My only real thing I don't like is we are going to play the spread. I just hope our recruiting picks up with these young coaches

12/22/2012 11:56:12 AM

Who told you that's for sure what we're going to run? All I've seen from Doeren and Canada is that they'll run what fits best with the talent that we have available. I think we could see elements of the spread along with pro style, maybe more like what Wisconsin was running this past season.

12/22/2012 12:05:22 PM

this should go here
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/12/21/2560413/wolfpack-players-like-new-coachs.html

12/22/2012 12:25:08 PM

Thought I read that on pp somewhere

12/22/2012 12:26:26 PM

Well, there's your problem lol. I think a lot will depend on who we have starting at QB next year. The impression that I get from the staff that we've assembled is that they're a little more flexible to create a system that fits the players rather than forcing what we have into a given system. Time will tell, of course.

12/22/2012 2:46:32 PM

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""Obviously I love the style of offense we ran at Northern," he said. "But I also know you've got to be able to fit what you do to your players. Right now, there isn't a Jordan Lynch-type player here, obviously. We do have to go out and recruit, and part of what we do offensively will be similar to what we did there. The run game may be more tailback and jet sweep-oriented than quarterback-oriented." "I do believe in what Wisconsin did on offense, being able to run the football to win the game, and play-action and use the screen game with the tight ends, but I also believe in what we did at Northern, spreading it out.""

12/23/2012 11:23:48 AM

You guys know we've basically run a spread the last 5 years right?

12/23/2012 11:47:53 AM

West coast offense

12/23/2012 2:14:58 PM

UCLA Skinny High Post Spread Offense

12/23/2012 2:38:21 PM

I am not sure what is driving the push in college football towards faster paced offense. There seems to be consensus among sportscasters and writers that more offense makes for a better game to watch. Everybody seems to be going from pro-ish to spread-ish sets.

I don't know about you, but as a spectator I think I pull harder for the defense than the offense. I woot much louder after a sack than a touchdown.

12/27/2012 2:04:50 PM

^scoring 60 points a game is probably pushing that trend.

And short of a major sack in the 4th quarter a stadium is always louder/more rowdy after a TD. But not sure your point anyway... But keep on wooting after those sacks.

12/27/2012 2:40:07 PM

CONFESSION: Sometimes, when I am watching the game at home alone, I move all the furniture out of the way and get in a three point stance and wait for the snap. Then I rush the fucking television growling "I got you muthafucker" with my eyes focused squarely on TJ Yates or whoever. I usually try to stop just before my face hits the screen. If our LB's get there after me I bitch about how slow and unmotivated they are while I am walking back to my starting position for the next play. Sometimes I start all the way over in the kitchen for a corner blitz. Maybe I just like defense better. It is also possible that I have some unresolved issues. Anyway, it adds to the game experience and it's fun.

12/27/2012 2:55:48 PM

^I do the same thing but then I start jumpin up and down and going Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo PACK PACK POWER PACK oOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

12/27/2012 3:12:27 PM

MLB tended to dominate on NCAA 2000 for PS1, but I didn't know that my first season, I just thought Clayton white was a god in that game.

12/27/2012 5:27:59 PM

Been addressed I'm sure but...

Are both Manny Stocker and Pete Thomas on our roster next year?

And... who do we as TWW think will get the start?

12/28/2012 3:35:05 PM

Woulard

12/28/2012 3:47:13 PM

I think Pete Thomas is the leader in the clubhouse considering he has some experience and seems to have some mobility. I'd imagine that Doeren is going to have an open competition and whomever grasps the new offense best will get the first start.

12/28/2012 3:47:24 PM

Both qbs should fit well into the Doeren offense

12/28/2012 4:08:02 PM

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"Quarterback Manny Stocker ready to adapt to change Jacey Zembal TheWolfpacker.com Editor The quarterback position is always impacted when a coaching change occurs. NC State returns two scholarship quarterbacks — freshman Manny Stocker and junior Pete Thomas, who is redshirting this season — and are looking to add at least one incoming recruit at the position. Stocker is concentrating on the task at hand in preparing for Vanderbilt in the Music City Bowl on Dec. 31 in Nashville, Tenn., but it's hard not to think about the future. NC State freshman backup quarterback Manny Stocker played in four games this season. "I'm not too worried about it now and I don't have any idea what the new coaches will bring in," Stocker said. "It's mostly about the bowl game ahead of us and try to focus on that." New NC State coach Dave Doeren and offensive coordinator Matt Canada featured star quarterback Chandler Harnish in their one season working together at Northern Illinois in 2011. Harnish passed for 3,216 yards and 28 touchdowns, and rushed for 1,379 and 11 scores in leading the Huskies to an 11-3 mark in 2011. He went on to being drafted in the seventh round by the Indianapolis Colts, and earned a spot on the practice squad. Canada departed for Wisconsin this past season, and junior quarterback Jordan Lynch replaced Harnish in the lineup. Lynch passed for 2,962 yards and 24 touchdowns, and rushed for 1,771 and 19 scores with the Orange Bowl against Florida State coming up for 12-1 squad. "When the new coaches come in for the spring, and he talked to us, and said everything is going to change," Stocker said. "Right now, we are running the same offense and going through the same reads and same routes and everything. I'm trying to get better at that offense." Stocker is a good scrambler and knows that could be valued in the new offense. "The word has gotten around that at NIU, he had a good quarterback, but I don't know if he plans to do the same thing," Stocker said. "Whatever he brings in, I'm ready for it." Stocker watched parts of the Northern Illinois vs. Kent State game in the MAC championship on television. "I caught a little bit of it," Stocker said. "They looked pretty good to me, but I don't know what he is bringing in." Thomas, who wasn't made available for an interview, understands coaching transitions. He committed to Arizona State during his senior season, but then the Sun Devils parted ways with their offensive coordinator and he decommitted. Thomas signed with Colorado State and started his first two years, but then his coach was fired following the 2011 season. He transferred to NC State, but never got to play for coach Tom O'Brien, who was also fired following the Wolfpack's 7-5 season. Stocker said the Wolfpack players want to send out the seniors and O'Brien's coaching staff out a winner against 8-4 Vanderbilt. "I think everybody feels bad about what happened and wants to get him out with a good win," Stocker said. Getting a new coach for his sophomore year is deja vu for Stocker. Stocker doesn't have the same history as Thomas with coaches, but counted that Doeren will be his fourth head coach in the last six years if you include his prep experiences. He also figures next year will be his fifth offense in six years. "My freshman year of high school, my coach went somewhere else and I got a new coach that came in my sophomore year," Stocker said. "I'm familiar with this situation and I'm just going to ride it out. "I guess you could transfer if that's what you want to do, but I came to play for State. I'm real thankful for the coaches that recruited me and I'm sad they are leaving. You just have to adapt." Stocker said the Wolfpack do run some spread formations from time-to-time. "I don't think it will be too hard of a transition because we have certain plays that resemble a spread offense, but we also like pro-style offense a lot," Stocker said. "We have pro-style reads." The 6-foot-3, 200-pound Stocker played in four games this season, but mostly in mop-up situations. He threw one pass against Wake Forest on Nov. 10 on a roll out that fell incomplete. He also rushed seven times for 18 yards, including 32 yards on three carries in the 37-6 win over the Demon Deacons. "I think it helped a little bit, got a little feel," Stocker said. "[I saw] the speed of the game and everything, and just get comfortable with that." Stocker said fifth-year senior starter Mike Glennon usually gets four reps and then he and the second string will come in for two during practice. Stocker was able to work with the first string Dec. 14 with Glennon missing a practice while working on his graduate degree. "I'm trying to be more of a whole player and [improve] in every aspect of the game, on and off the field," Stocker said. "I want to be more of a leader type of guy on the team. We are going into a new year with Mike leaving and everybody. I want to try and compete for a spot." Stocker has tried to soak in the knowledge from Glennon. "I've learned a lot from Mike, like trying to stay on the right path, stay on track with everything and do everything the right way with everybody looking at you as the quarterback," Stocker said. "I'm just trying to follow him the best way possible." Stocker also got to meet former NCSU star quarterback Russell Wilson of the Seattle Seahawks last spring. Stocker was originally slated to wear Wilson's No. 16, but ended up No. 15. "I talked to him a little bit, but not a lot," Stocker said. "He said to keep your head up, go through it and it will all pay off. It was just encouragement.""

http://ncstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1450666

12/28/2012 8:00:49 PM

Did anybody else notice that Pete Thomas' Scout.com profile says he had a 1560 SAT score? Is perfect still 1600?

12/28/2012 8:11:39 PM

SAT is now on a 2400 scale. A writing part worth 800 points was added a few years ago. But some people still refer to their score on the 1600 scale by excluding their writing score. Maybe that was what the 1560 score was in reference to. Otherwise, 1560 out of 2400 ain't that good.

[Edited on December 28, 2012 at 8:18 PM. Reason : Gghg]

12/28/2012 8:17:29 PM

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"Thomas, who wasn't made available for an interview, understands coaching transitions. He committed to Arizona State during his senior season, but then the Sun Devils parted ways with their offensive coordinator and he decommitted. Thomas signed with Colorado State and started his first two years, but then his coach was fired following the 2011 season. He transferred to NC State, but never got to play for coach Tom O'Brien, who was also fired following the Wolfpack's 7-5 season."

God damn, kid can't catch a break, and sounds like Stocker is the QB is waiting.

12/29/2012 9:17:56 AM

Interesting article about Canada's tenure at Wisconsin:
http://host.madison.com/sports/college/football/badgers-football-offense-was-power-struggle-for-matt-canada-bret/article_d7184300-5151-11e2-86ec-001a4bcf887a.html

This excerpt is particularly encouraging:

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"After 12 games as offensive coordinator for the University of Wisconsin football team, Matt Canada finally had enough. Prior to the Big Ten Conference title game against Nebraska, Canada went in to talk to former UW coach Bret Bielema and at long last put his foot down. Sink or swim, it was time for Canada to do things his way. Numerous UW sources said Canada's decision to stand up to Bielema was a significant factor in the offensive outburst that followed. The Badgers amassed 640 yards, including 539 on the ground, in the 70-31 victory over Nebraska on Dec. 1, sending UW to the Rose Bowl where it will face Stanford on Tuesday"

12/29/2012 2:14:59 PM

^^dude, I didn't realize all that about Thomas. Damn.

12/29/2012 2:57:38 PM

From his interview during the music city bowl, I noticed he has a hole for an ear piercing.

-500 credibility

12/31/2012 12:50:40 PM

dude has a hole in his left earlobe

-1,000

12/31/2012 12:51:05 PM

Ahahahhahahaha

12/31/2012 12:53:22 PM

^^, ^^^

12/31/2012 1:39:55 PM

I still have a hole too, +1,500


that sounds dirty

12/31/2012 1:48:36 PM

son wearing flat brim hat -500

1/1/2013 9:24:33 PM

^?

1/1/2013 9:33:57 PM

got to a bcs game with a garbage qb +1000 credibility

1/1/2013 10:03:23 PM

in a garbage conference without beating any good teams all season

+/- please temper your expectations

1/1/2013 10:07:01 PM

this team probably goes .500 in the acc

so he's already as good as tob

niu probably is around equivalent in talent to our roster next year too. tob really fucked us there

1/1/2013 10:25:08 PM

^Nah, we aren't as undersized on the lines.

1/1/2013 10:27:19 PM

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"this team probably goes .500 in the acc"

lol

1/1/2013 10:29:22 PM

Next year comes down to QB play. The defense has some talent returning, especially on the DL. We've got some playmakers returning on offense and the OL should be serviceable. Good play from the QB (whether it's Pete Thomas or Manny Stocker) will be the difference in an ok season and a really good one.

1/2/2013 1:27:22 AM

^Don't forget we're returning O. M. Hubbard. I expect good things next year.

1/2/2013 9:38:29 AM

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"OL should be serviceable"

Haven't we been saying that about O-lines coming up for TOB for years now? I have zero faith in our offensive line next year and will be supremely impressed if Doeren can turn that rag-tag bunch of linemen into a serviceable OL.

1/2/2013 10:07:43 AM

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"some playmakers returning on offense "

We had playmakers? Outside of Palmer, we had basically no one that I would call a playmaker. Maybe Shadrach can become one, but the rest of our WR core was pretty awful as well as our TEs. Bunch of ball droppers...

1/2/2013 10:27:27 AM

http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/010713aaa.html

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"Nayes, McKillip to Handle Football Operations New Director of Operations has 14 years of experience in NFL operations. Raleigh, NC -- NC State head football coach Dave Doeren has filled the operational side of his staff, announcing Monday that Bill Nayes, who has 14 years of experience working for NFL teams in operations, has been named Director of Football Operations and Joe McKillip has been named Assistant Director. Nayes comes to the Wolfpack after spending four years with the San Francisco 49ers, where he served as special assistant to the head coach. He worked under Jim Harbaugh for the past two seasons and for Coach Mike Singletary in his first two years with the organization. “I am very excited to be reunited with Bill Nayes, his wife Paige and their children Natalia and Joe,” said Doeren. “His NFL experience with the Seattle Seahawks and the San Francisco 49ers brings us not only a connection to the league that can benefit our program, but also great connections in the travel world that will be helpful. Bill is a very down-to-earth, professional guy that I know our players will enjoy being around. He has an ability to fit in when it comes to dealing with players, parents, administrators and fans. People seem to gravitate towards him. He will do a tremendous job representing our football program and our university.” Prior to his stint in San Francisco, Nayes was the assistant athletic director/director of football operations at Wisconsin for three years while Doeren was also on staff. With the Badgers, Nayes coordinated all team operations, including game scheduling, budgeting, team travel, camps, operational schedules and team bowl trips. He also served as a liaison between football and various departments, while also supervising office personnel. From 1999-2006, Nayes served as football operations coordinator/team travel with the Seattle Seahawks under then-Head Coach Mike Holmgren. During his seven years in Seattle, he was responsible for all aspects of the team’s travel, including the budget, team charters, hotel accommodations, meal arrangements and ground transportation. Nayes also organized the Seahawks’ training camp and mini-camps, as well as the team’s operational schedules. Nayes was originally hired in a full-time capacity by the Green Bay Packers in 1997 after serving as a training camp intern during the summers of 1995 and 1996. He worked under Holmgren as administrative assistant/football operations until 1999. “I’m excited to work with Coach Doeren again,” said Nayes. “I have a lot of respect for him as a person, a coach and a family man. I had never been to NC State before, but when he called and started telling me about it, I could tell in his voice how excited he was about the opportunity. Now that I’m here, I can see why. I look forward to moving my family here and doing everything I can to help the Wolfpack win football games.” Nayes served as a student football manager at Wisconsin before moving into a football operations assistant role upon graduation. During his career, he has been a part of six college bowl games, four international games and seven NFL postseason appearances, including three Super Bowls. Nayes graduated with a B.S. degree from Wisconsin in 1994. He and his wife, Paige, have a daughter, Natalia (8), and a son, Joe (5). In his role as assistant director of football operations, McKillip will assist Nayes with team logistics and day-to-day operations. These activities include fall camp organization, game weekend arrangements for both home and away games, weekly team schedules, bowl game preparation, coordination of the spring football schedule and summer high school football camps. He will also assist with recruiting functions and external community relations. “Joe was my manager at Wisconsin and he spent four years on the field and in the press box with me,” said Doeren. ‘He followed me to Northern Illinois and did a tremendous job there. He has worn about every hat there is in an operations role, from checking classes to serving as the advance guy in travel to being a mentor to our players. He takes great pride in his work and will do a great job at NC State building the bridge between campus and our players and coaches.” McKillip comes to Raleigh after spending the past two season with Doeren at Northern Illinois University. Last season, he served as the assistant director of football operations and on-campus recruiting coordinator after serving as the operations graduate assistant the previous year. A native of Burlington, Wisc., McKillip graduated from the University of Wisconsin, where he served as a student football manager for four seasons."

1/7/2013 2:47:15 PM