moron I have a question for you. it's possible you've articulated your pov on this already and I've just missed it, but I am curious

Let's say in 2026, only 1 person in the entire world wanted to emigrate to the US and they were allowed to do so. I think you'd get 99.99% agreement among US citizens that this would not be a problem in any way, let alone destabilizing to US society.

if in 2026 a civil war broke out in China and 100 million people tried to escape by coming to the United States, illegally if necessary, maybe not quite 99.99%, but some significant percentage of US citizens would express some concern about the impact that would have on our society, and feel justified in that concern or perhaps even opposition.

So somewhere in between those two extremes of zero immigration and tens of millions of illegal migrants is a reasonable immigration policy that most Americans could support.

What do you think that policy looks like, and how much illegal immigration do you think is acceptable

[Edited on November 23, 2025 at 8:43 PM. Reason : if it'd be easier to explore this space via a video call or over coffee/beer, lmk]

11/23/2025 8:35:29 PM

No amount of illegal immigration is acceptable. If we’re talking about ideals, humans have been migrating around the world for hundreds of thousands of years especially to seek a better life. If there’s some crisis in China that needs 100 million people fleeing, it’s our duty to absorb as many as our agriculture and waste management and housing systems can take. Simultaneously we should work with every other country to share the load, and then work with whatever in China is causing people to flee— this is more or less how the refugee system used to work.

11/23/2025 9:36:25 PM

gracias

11/23/2025 9:50:22 PM

For those who frequent r/raleigh there are a couple interesting threads you might want to browse.

1) Apparently a month ago there were actual nazis with swastikas at umpstead park. I dont reddit very much but I guess it got bumped to the top because people clicked and commented thinking it was about ICE? But no, it was actual nazis.

2) A list of ICE-friendly establishments.

11/24/2025 12:06:26 PM

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/11/26/metro/karoline-leavitt-bruna-ferreira-ice/?s_campaign=8315:varf

Quote :

"Mother of Karoline Leavitt’s nephew detained by ICE in Revere; Brazil native came to US as a child"

11/26/2025 11:41:19 AM

Quote :

" U.S. HAS ORDERED AMERICAN DIPLOMATS IN EUROPE, CANADA, AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND TO PRESS GOVERNMENTS TO RESTRICT MOST IMMIGRATION- NEW YORK TIMES "

11/26/2025 6:15:06 PM

Quote :

" ????TRUMP: WILL PERMANENTLY PAUSE MIGRATION FROM ALL THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES TO ALLOW U.S. SYSTEM TO FULLY RECOVER. I WILL END ALL FEDERAL BENEFITS AND SUBSIDIES TO NONCITIZENS OF OUR COUNTRY. "

11/27/2025 11:45:19 PM

Quote :

"Trump makes the outrageous claim that “most” immigrants, which include over 25 million U.S. citizens, “are on welfare, from failed nations, or from prisons, mental institutions, gangs, or drug cartels.” As insulting as the “deplorables” comment, and on Thanksgiving day no less."

11/28/2025 10:12:10 AM

9 pages and 7 years to conclude this thread … not sure what else you can even say at this point to prove this point

11/28/2025 10:57:08 AM

https://www.sfgate.com/national-parks/article/national-parks-change-prioritizes-trump-birthday-21219336.php

Quote :

"National parks change prioritizes Trump birthday over days honoring Black people Free entrance days at national parks no longer include MLK Day and Juneteenth"

12/5/2025 12:28:52 PM

https://wapo.st/48qWW9C

Quote :

"Mom of Karoline Leavitt’s nephew rejects White House narrative of her ICE arrest ?In an interview, Bruna Ferreira, who chose the White House press secretary as her son’s godmother, contested the portrayal of her as a criminal, absentee mom."

12/7/2025 1:09:36 PM

^^came to see if that was posted or discussed. Seems like the most obviously racist/autocratic thing he has done that i can think of

12/9/2025 12:18:20 AM

What other countries celebrate their current leader's birthday?

12/9/2025 10:52:02 AM

To be fair, he did do the most for blacks of any president since Abraham Lincoln, or maybe of all time!

12/9/2025 1:35:01 PM

Quote :

" Armed ICE agents trapped US citizens in a restaurant and demanded their papers. Federal agents walked into East African restaurants in Cedar-Riverside, MN. They closed and blocked the doors. Then they demanded to see everyone’s papers. Every person present was a US citizen. https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/12/10/federal-agents-use-chemical-irritant-in-somali-neighborhood-of-minneapolis "

12/14/2025 9:05:27 PM

They're really going after Minnesota

12/14/2025 11:47:39 PM

Making it clear, “you come at the king, you best not miss”

12/15/2025 12:11:06 AM

Lol who is the king in that? Trump hardly looks strong here.

12/15/2025 12:18:12 AM

^^^
They really want to stoke a riot I think

Used the afghan attacker in DC to basically end all immigration. They have worse plans but still using pretexts

12/15/2025 1:35:14 AM

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-citizen-arrested-by-ice_n_693c9355e4b018dc36f254c0?origin=home-latest-news-unit

Quote :

"ICE Says U.S. Citizen’s Birth Certificate Is Fake After Arresting Her Dulce Consuelo Diaz Morales was arrested on Sunday. ICE won’t release her despite extensive documentation of her citizenship, her attorneys told HuffPost."

12/18/2025 11:42:09 PM

Quote :

" Since Trump returned to office, the Education Department’s civil rights office has not resolved a single racial harassment investigation. It sends a message that “people impacted by racial discrimination ... don’t matter,” one attorney said. https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-education-department-civil-rights-racial-harassment "

12/23/2025 11:05:21 PM

I'm starting to think this guy Trump might be racist. Need to see more evidence first.

12/24/2025 6:56:24 AM

Here’s a good deep dive into cbp on how white supremacy works on the day to day level of rewiring and organization:

https://newrepublic.com/article/204227/trump-immigration-nightmare-happening-here

12/24/2025 10:41:12 AM

https://www.newsfromthestates.com/article/trump-vetoes-miccosukee-flood-protection-citing-tribes-opposition-alligator-alcatraz

12/31/2025 6:14:20 PM

The last dhsgov tweet… yikes.

1/2/2026 11:07:11 PM

Is swill a white supremacist word?

1/2/2026 11:50:44 PM

Haven’t seen the swill one but I was talking about this one

https://bsky.app/profile/a-bezoar.bsky.social/post/3mbi76cdzq225

1/3/2026 12:33:54 AM

I'm going to have to ask you to be more specific.

1/3/2026 6:59:22 AM

It wasn't their last post, i guess just the last post moron saw or something

1/3/2026 10:36:49 AM

I went to sleep last night with the thread open before the post in question had been clarified, and then neglected to refresh before posting my reply / request for more information.

1/3/2026 9:38:07 PM

I was wrong about musk using the N word, he has yet to do so to my knowledge

He’s done much worse in practice since, but not that

https://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=650035&page=3#16688405

1/4/2026 9:23:15 PM

Regardless of our disagreements on other things, I absolutely applaud and appreciate you recognizing and acknowledging that you were wrong on that particular fact.

It is absolutely essential that we all be able to do so as necessary, and your example here feels like the warm sun on my face after a thousand years of cloud cover.



[Edited on January 4, 2026 at 9:51 PM. Reason : cage did it better ~]

1/4/2026 9:49:08 PM

Quote :

" @StephenM 5... Not long after World War Il the West dissolved its empires and colonies and began sending colossal sums of taxpayer-funded aid to these former territories (despite have already made them far wealthier and more successful). The West opened its borders, a kind of reverse colonization, providing welfare and thus remittances, while extending to these newcomers and their families not only the full franchise but preferential legal and financial treatment over the native citizenry. The neoliberal experiment, at its core, has been a long self-punishment of the places and peoples that built the modern world. "

1/5/2026 11:18:35 PM

It's not all that surprising that Musk hasn't used the n-word publicly. It's not really a slur that's widely used in South Africa. Has he used the k-word? I bet he has when he's been using that other k-word too much at work.

1/6/2026 9:14:03 AM