Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
The left absolutely lost because of the Affordable Care Act (it's actual name, by the way). Because the Affordable Care Act has not been implemented fully. Which is the result of GOP obstructionism.
GOP obstructs. People think the bill is an utter failure. They vote accordingly.
It's how our system works. Obstruct the shit you hate and then when your obstruction causes it to fail, blame the people that came up with it.
It'd be like if you prevented me from putting the fire at your house out by holding me back at gunpoint and then people voted to get rid of the Fire Department for being unable to put fires out. 10/25/2017 12:23:31 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
that's standard practice for the GOP: work hard to defund and destroy something then after you turn it into shit use that as evidence for why it needs to be removed entirely
republicans have no credibility because they continually show that they are not able to govern, they can only be obstructionists, and republican voters have no credibility because they continually show they don't care that their party can't govern 10/25/2017 12:29:14 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
The only thing I might change about your otherwise spot-on statement is this:
Quote : | "and republican voters have no credibility because they continually show they don't care that their party can't govern" |
They don't think their party can't govern, they think they're being prevented from governing because of liberal policies.10/25/2017 12:31:06 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
So much for the Trump admin standing up the Wall St.: http://fortune.com/2017/10/25/senate-vote-bank-class-action-lawsuit-arbitration/ 10/25/2017 1:02:46 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Thats why what you guys call "purity" is important for democrats. They had complete control and could have changed the rules to legislate things into law that could not be "obstructed". Instead, they decided to compromise and work with insurance companies and republicans because they didn't want to take the risk of making a drastic change on their own.
THEY DO THIS ON EVERY ISSUE 10/25/2017 7:04:35 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Americans are OK with their President and his henchmen lying to them and getting away with it.
https://www.facebook.com/senatorsanders/videos/vb.9124187907/10156441099912908 10/26/2017 11:57:18 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Lol, now Trump is blocking some JFK info from being released 10/26/2017 6:58:36 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/trump-personally-interviews-us-attorney-candidates-for-new-york-and-dc
Yea I think he knows he's fucked at this point... 10/27/2017 12:33:12 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wral.com/russia-probe-centers-on-trump-campaign-aide/17073367/
Quote : | "Said Trump: "Few people knew the young, low level volunteer named George, who has already proven to be a liar. Check the DEMS!"" |
10/31/2017 12:06:18 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-power-of-the-presidential-tweet-1508702456
Finally, a MSM article that acknowledges how Trump is hypnotizing the entire country with his antics. Its obvious that Trump has a formula for persuasion and manipulation and its also obvious that it wouldn't work if you (the target) knew he was trying and didn't just assume it was him being "a baby" or "impulsive".
Its only genius because it still works. He knows how to put just the right balance of crazy to get your attention and still internalize what is being said. 10/31/2017 12:56:23 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ What that really means is that half the population is mentally retarded (and good percentage of them are supremacists of one kind or another), and that's sad 10/31/2017 1:04:04 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that's scott adams tripe he's been pushing for a year. He moves the goal posts whenever one of his predictions fail.
He predicted Trump would be popular (literally the most unpopular president in recorded history), he predicted he'd be a master at international relations, he predicted he'd be able to "make deals" to pass legislation, he predicted trump would be very pro gay rights and was just "matching and pacing" or something.
Adams is a hack. 10/31/2017 4:01:06 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
^
Also let's not forget that News Corp. owns the WSJ along with Fox News and they have been aggressively pushing their pro Trump nonsense (emphasis on the word nonsense) for the past two months now.
[Edited on October 31, 2017 at 4:04 PM. Reason : a] 10/31/2017 4:03:06 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Diversary Lottery Program" |
TF? He doesn't even know the word "diversity"? This is surreal.
https://www.facebook.com/cnn/videos/10157522528456509/
In related news, I better hurry up and apply for the Diversary Lottery Program for this year! 11/2/2017 2:08:57 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Its obvious that Trump has a formula for persuasion and manipulation" |
Is it? His support at record low levels, he’s gotten no major policy agenda and has failed miserably whenever trying to “make a deal” with Congress and members of his own party are basically questioning his mental fitness.
He does have a few wins but a Republican monkey could have gotten a list of justices from Heritage and got them confirmed through cloture.11/2/2017 8:29:34 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Trump is on a Twitter rampage calling for the death penalty immediately.
Last time someone drove through a crowd causing death and mayhem he said we needed more facts.
I wonder what the difference could be... 11/2/2017 10:54:47 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Muslims scare white Americans but white Americans don't.
Trump continues with the "I'm a strong leader" approach. 11/2/2017 10:59:20 AM |
ncsusoccer06 Veteran 197 Posts user info edit post |
Possible irony by calling out this attack and demanding death penalty could be used by defense citing unfair trial. 11/2/2017 11:16:45 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
That's just Trump's genius! Does something publicly that tanks the prosecution's case for the death penalty then uses that as proof the justice system is weak. 11th dimensional chess! /earl 11/2/2017 11:18:32 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
I see you arestill hanging on to approval rating polls that have no impact on elections.
Not getting anything done is being blamed on congress who has even lower approval that predates trump. hes setting them up so bannon can clean house in 2018. thats a win.
your definitions of wins are not the same. i think you are still talking about what is a win for the country and not a personal win for trunp. nfl, espn, urma, and harvey were all monumental wins for trump. 11/2/2017 4:56:45 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^Approval rating will roughly be reflected in the polls once there's someone to run against.
A democratic president could blame not getting things done on a republican congress. A republican president cannot.
Low approval of a president has just about always turned into the other party taking over the majority in the midterms.
I don't know what "urma" is but Hurricane Irma didn't change anyone's mind. People who hate him hated him more, people who liked him liked him the same (except white supremacists who constantly have more reason to like him more). Irma hurt him with Hispanic voters, but they already have enough reasons not to vote for him again. 11/2/2017 7:55:34 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A democratic president could blame not getting things done on a republican congress. A republican president cannot." |
Where have you been? The Republican party is not united and this president has been at war with Republican senators. He's certainly been publicly blaming Mcconnel for not getting things done and guys like Mccain, corker, and Flake have been back and forth with him. Those are just the public battles. This president was never really a Republican insider and went to war with the party before being nominated. He essentially hijacked the party. He is and will blame them.
Quote : | "Low approval of a president has just about always turned into the other party taking over the majority in the midterms." |
Well this is not just about always. This is a unique situation and the Republican establishment is on life support with or without Trump. If the Democrats take the midterms, that only sets Trump up to be able to blame them in 2020 which actually plays right into his strategy.
Quote : | "Irma hurt him with Hispanic voters, but they already have enough reasons not to vote for him again." |
I don't know anyone who disapproved of his Irma response so I'm going to assume you are talking about Maria. Either way the point I'm going to make applies. Democrats continue to belittle entire groups of voters (blacks and hispanics mostly) by putting them into one box. It might be true about the majority but there are so many hispanic groups that this type of statement becomes ultra-offensive and democrats remain tone-deaf to it. For example, Cubans hate being considered the same as PR or Mexicans and when a conservative Cuban who hates socialism is belittled by a democrat, it pushes them into Trumps arms, even if they hate Trump. This is racism and its effect was probably enough to make the difference in the election and definitely enough to make the difference in Florida.
Just another example of the party being so elite and out of touch that they can't even recognize the things that cost them the election.11/2/2017 10:13:54 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Donald Trump, a year ago:
Quote : | "Many people would like to see Nigel Farage represent Great Britain as their Ambassador to the United States. He would do a great job!" |
Nigel Farage, today:
Quote : | "Jews are a greater risk to America than Russian influence" |
11/3/2017 1:57:29 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
So he’s really gonna force his DOJ to go after Clinton again? Deflection is a hallmark of his. Given the massive deflection and gaslighting happening recently Ive actually moved more to the camp that Trump himself actively colluded with Russia and he knows it’s coming. 11/3/2017 7:52:40 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Unemployment down to 4.1%. And yet his approval ratings...
I guess its no longer just the economy, stupid. 11/3/2017 8:40:19 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
It wasn’t in 2012 either IIRC. Obama had no chance to get re-elected if we used traditional macro predictors on the run-up. I do remember that late good jobs report from October that did help him but I remember our policy research firms all saying he would win but the macro predictors didn’t support it. 11/3/2017 8:43:48 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39305 Posts user info edit post |
^^
do you support him? 11/3/2017 10:28:30 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
HCH on Obama's unemployment numbers:
Quote : | "And before anyone argues that the unemployment rate dropped, so everything is peaches:
Why did unemployment rate drop: Not for good reasons. More Americans stopped looking for work and fell out of the workforce. That means they aren't counted in the labor force and that brings down the jobless rate." |
HCH on Trump's unemployment numbers:
Quote : | "Unemployment down to 4.1%. And yet his approval ratings...
I guess its no longer just the economy, stupid." |
[Edited on November 3, 2017 at 10:48 AM. Reason : must have those workforce participation blinders on now]11/3/2017 10:48:30 AM |
MONGO All American 599 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah he's gone off the rails this week. Below are tweets from only today:
Quote : | "Everybody is asking why the Justice Department (and FBI) isn't looking into all of the dishonesty going on with Crooked Hillary & the Dems new Donna B book says she paid for and stole the Dem Primary. What about the deleted E-mails, Uranium, Podesta, the Server, plus, plus people are angry. At some point the Justice Department, and the FBI, must do what is right and proper. The American public deserves it!
The real story on Collusion is in Donna B's new book. Crooked Hillary bought the DNC & then stole the Democratic Primary from Crazy Bernie!
Pocahontas just stated that the Democrats, lead by the legendary Crooked Hillary Clinton, rigged the Primaries! Lets go FBI & Justice Dept.
ISIS just claimed the Degenerate Animal who killed, and so badly wounded, the wonderful people on the West Side, was "their soldier." Based on that, the Military has hit ISIS "much harder" over the last two days. They will pay a big price for every attack on us!
I always felt I would be running and winning against Bernie Sanders, not Crooked H, without cheating, I was right.
Bernie Sanders supporters have every right to be apoplectic of the complete theft of the Dem primary by Crooked Hillary!" |
Feels like more Russian stuff is about to drop
[Edited on November 3, 2017 at 11:06 AM. Reason : .]11/3/2017 11:02:22 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Unemployment down to 4.1%" |
That is due to Bush signing TARP and Obama continuing and implementing good policies.11/3/2017 11:37:17 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "do you support him?" | I support our country. If the economy is growing and unemployment is declining, that's not a bad thing, regardless of which party is in power.
My post wasn't meant to be supportive of Trump, in fact the opposite. Our economy is doing great, yet his poll numbers are at record lows. So it seems as if the old mantra of only the economy being important for reelection may not be true any more (as NyM410) pointed out.
^^^This board is always in need of Obama criticism. You all hold him up as a religious savior.
^Agreed, many factors influence the state of our economy, not just the man sitting in the oval office.11/3/2017 12:05:30 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This board is always in need of Obama criticism. You all hold him up as a religious savior. " |
That's not "Obama criticism"
That's hypocrisy
[Edited on November 3, 2017 at 12:29 PM. Reason : "regardless of which party is in power stuff" lol good one]11/3/2017 12:28:36 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
lol, trying to justify blatant hypocrisy. what a hack. 11/3/2017 12:42:12 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Trump is attacking a military judge now 11/3/2017 1:29:52 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
People in glass white houses shouldn't throw stones allegations.
Also, I'm surprised Trump knows the word apoplectic, but I guess he should know it since it's how 60% of the country feels about him. 11/3/2017 2:53:57 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
trump can barely read11/3/2017 2:59:34 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone's looking at his crazy tweeting as some kind of distraction or attempt to muddy the waters.
I'd say while it might be that, all this uranium and DNC shit is going to be used as justification to get rid of Mueller 11/3/2017 3:13:59 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Quote : | "Diversary Lottery Program" |
Maybe he meant divorcary. A lottery to see which Russian supermodel Trump gets delivered from Putin to make his next ex-wife.11/3/2017 4:36:11 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/04/politics/donald-trump-paul-manafort-2016-election/index.html
Quote : | ""Well, it was a friend of mine who was a businessman -- a very successful businessman and a good person, and you know, Paul was not there very long," Trump said on Sharyl Attkisson's syndicated show "Full Measure," which will air in full on Sunday.
He continued: "Well, I think we found out something about he may be involved with all -- with certain nations, and I don't even know exactly what it was in particular. But there was a point at which we just felt Paul would be better off -- because we don't want to have many potential conflicts." The President also said he doesn't currently plan to fire special counselor Robert Mueller. "Well, I hope he's treating everything fairly, and if he is, I'm going to be very happy, because when you talk about innocent, I am truly not involved in any collusion with Russia," Trump said. "Believe me, that's the last thing I can think of to be involved in."" |
He is a complete moron. What nation would that be, Donald, Russia?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/us/politics/trump-jeff-sessions-russia.html
Quote : | "WASHINGTON — Standing before reporters in February, President Trump said unequivocally that he knew of nobody from his campaign who was in contact with Russians during the election. Attorney General Jeff Sessions has told the Senate the same thing." |
[Edited on November 4, 2017 at 9:20 PM. Reason : a]11/4/2017 9:09:46 PM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“Try building your cars in the United States instead of shipping them over. That’s not too much to ask. Is that rude to ask?”" |
Sigh...11/5/2017 10:47:33 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
https://t.co/ISHQoH6A2a
This is awful but not surprising. Hard to not feel bad for them.. 11/8/2017 8:14:32 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
Not that hard. Fuck 'em. 11/8/2017 9:22:03 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/928361984038281216
Lot of misinformation out there on this but it seems that this will go to court likely. Discovery might be interesting because someone is lying..
[Edited on November 8, 2017 at 3:45 PM. Reason : I put it here bc it’s his DoJ — could not be Trump related] 11/8/2017 3:44:59 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
I feel like I'm missing the rest of the story, what's that about? 11/8/2017 4:06:06 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Long story short. News came out that DoJ said they would approve deal contingent on selling Turner/CNN.
DoJ says not true and actually AT&T offered to sell CNN but DoJ rejected it.
AT&T CEO says that is a complete lie and he never offered and has no intention of selling CNN.
[Edited on November 8, 2017 at 4:13 PM. Reason : This would be a nothing ordinarily but for Trumps constant trashing of CNNs coverage] 11/8/2017 4:12:58 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/08/media/att-time-warner/index.html
Quote : | "The standoff has revived speculation that the Trump administration is trying to retaliate against CNN for its coverage of the president." |
11/8/2017 4:20:29 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
We going to talk about how terr8ble and exhausted he sounds? 11/9/2017 5:56:31 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
This is a marathon trip. We're talking about a 71 year old. I hate when I get off a transpacific flight with a full day ahead of me. It feels like a zombie and I would rather just sleep for an entire day when I get off the plane. This man got off the plane in Japan and immediately did EVERYTHING and started meeting tons of people. Then flew to Korea and did the same thing then flew to china and did the same thing and now is flying to vietnam for a conference. Any of those events would exhaust the crap out of a young person and he is doing them all back to back. Trump is not used to working like this. He needs a golf break.
I would hate being president. 11/9/2017 10:35:21 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
LOW ENERGY 11/9/2017 10:50:15 PM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
He had a golf break in japan. 11/10/2017 8:46:17 AM |