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^^
Yeah, just didn't want to risk being ripped off. It also seemed like there weren't a lot of bids going around, and I didn't want to wait around forever.

2/25/2011 9:37:43 AM

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Hey Novicane, do you have an 80+ Alliance character and want the Halaa Talbuk Mounts?

3/2/2011 9:34:25 AM

Novicane
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alliance is gay. (quoting from like page 2)

I've played nothing but horde.

3/2/2011 10:33:00 AM

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Well that goes without saying, but getting Halaa battle tokens without colluding with an Alliance player will be impossible.

3/2/2011 10:50:21 AM

ssclark
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and.... banned. lovely

3/15/2011 6:31:12 PM

Novicane
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??botting??

3/15/2011 8:36:36 PM

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"and.... banned. lovely"


take it as a sign to move on to rift

3/15/2011 9:39:31 PM

smoothcrim
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that game's worse than wow. 60 distinct char/build combos. yeah, no thanks

3/15/2011 9:53:58 PM

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htf u banned?

3/15/2011 10:15:30 PM

adultswim
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^^
naww it's pretty fun

3/15/2011 10:27:04 PM

ssclark
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cousin decided to bot on my account while i was in atlanta. used arch bot which is getting snatched up by blizz. fucking cunt bag.

all of pirox got hit tho. mining/herbing/arch/honor bot. like 60k people got banned monday.

3/16/2011 7:09:26 AM

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pirox free fish bot get hit as well?

3/16/2011 8:06:48 AM

ssclark
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dunno, but i can't see how not. the whole system got shut down :x pirox is furiously trying to save his customer base

3/16/2011 12:48:00 PM

Novicane
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apparently it's just the archa bot of the suite. Tons of lols in the forums right now.

The programmer was using chat commands to communicate back to the bot. sounds pretty fail.

[Edited on March 16, 2011 at 1:30 PM. Reason : s]

3/16/2011 1:30:24 PM

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well, the tier 11 raids weren't really anything to write home about. granted the only end boss i've killed was cho'gall. I don't care to kill nefarian/onyxia again, and i've already *seen* al'akir but i don't care much to down him.

Looks like we'll hit another lull before 4.2 brings us firelands. A lot of people have bounced for Rift so guild raids have been somewhat dead lately. At least theres pvp to keep me busy. Disc priest in bg's is beastly.

3/17/2011 9:39:00 AM

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Anyone want a 60 day game card for like 20 bucks paypal?

3/30/2011 1:10:27 PM

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^ I might be interested. Thought about playing again for a while. Been almost 3 years since I stopped.

4/1/2011 10:18:28 AM

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^^PM Sent

4/1/2011 1:40:27 PM

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i'm pretty sure this game is going in the shitter very soon. people are losing interest in the game by the day, and the fact they still haven't released a new raid yet is ridiculous.

4.1 isn't even out yet and they're saying we aren't ready for new raids? smells like major BS to me.

Without a date yet for 4.1, and 4.2 coming god knows when, thats the only point where we will get new raid content. I predict a late may release date on 4.2 at the earliest, but they expect us to keep doing bot/bwd/to4w till then?

heroic raids =/= new content
refurbished troll heroics =/= new content

if anything, they should have ended season 9 pvp at the release of 4.1. at least in that way we can start farming a new tier of pvp gear to hold us over till 4.2.

it's also a pisser they did away with both 10/25 man raids. i actually enjoyed having the option to do both. it sucks when later in the week i see tons of LFM'ing for raids, and im already saved to it because i did it in either 10 or 25.

[Edited on April 4, 2011 at 5:07 PM. Reason : ..]

[Edited on April 4, 2011 at 5:15 PM. Reason : ...]

4/4/2011 5:07:09 PM

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^ agreed 100%

our guild has stopped raiding heroics and raiding in general. We were knocking down a new heroic boss every few nights then suddenly no one signed on.

I transferred my priest to scilla-pvp to do some 25 man raiding.

[Edited on April 4, 2011 at 5:15 PM. Reason : d]

4/4/2011 5:15:14 PM

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the game is dead.

4/4/2011 7:17:29 PM

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Aww, and I just rolled a priest.

4/4/2011 7:35:10 PM

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Strangely our guild is having a hard time with too many people showing up on raid night. But we have broken into heroics yet maybe it's worse on a high pop server.

4/4/2011 7:52:30 PM

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is TWC throttling wow packets now? My vent ping is really low (20ms, etc) then during 25 man fights my world ping shoots up. It's not my FPS/Graphics nor my connection. It's just certain huge data transferring fights lag me out for one attempt. The next attempt im ok.

4/5/2011 1:03:44 PM

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Anyone else read dyne's comments and think that this terrible carebear moaning is exactly what's wrong with the game? Boohoo, I cleared all the easy content, but Nef/Ony and Alakir are moderately harder, so I have no interest in killing these bosses . . . GIMME NEW CONTENT NAO. Sounds more like an excuse for bad playing to me.

There has been a lot of downtime for this general tier, but it is the first raiding tier, so I give it a little extra leeway. I actually like the idea of the minor respin for ZG and ZA for the addition of lore and the eventual segway to the Northrend troll raid. I can understand top tier guilds having issue with this, though.

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^ TWC is having problems with some WoW related items, though I think its more bugs than it is intentional throttling. A few weeks back I had a lot of problems on the first boss of BoT. The trash was fine, but I hit horribad lag as soon as the fight started. Resetting the cable modem when it happens usually fixed the problem.

4/5/2011 2:33:51 PM

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shitty players that want easily loot ruined the game.

4/6/2011 7:55:23 AM

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Didn't they invent heroic modes to satisfy/reward skilled players?

4/6/2011 3:21:29 PM

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well i got carried last night in a heroic 25m magmaw, omnotron, maloriak and atramedes kill.

I've raided most content since molten core, and I will say some of these heroic modes are some of the most challenging content i've seen. For people to say this game is easy, try healing on any of these fights.

I even got two heroic token pieces sent my way and they are a substantial upgrade on the regular tier set by a good 10-15% in stats per piece for my priest.

4/6/2011 3:36:51 PM

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bump for 4.1. most filler patch i've seen since vanilla. it was fun trying out ZA as a 5 man heroic, but it's nothing new.

4/26/2011 8:48:51 PM

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yeah this patch was horrid. a lot of priest changes that were documented weren't even implemented in the patch. Omnotron was completely bugged out tonight in heroic mode.

the weekly guild achievements are meh.

4/26/2011 10:09:09 PM

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in other news my ping to League of Legands has randomly gone from ~75 to ~210 in the last couple days as well

4/27/2011 1:32:39 AM

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Playstation network is done people gotta get their game fix in some other way now so they are using their PCs again haha

4/27/2011 8:33:53 AM

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I've been having connectivity issues with LoL lately too.

Played WoW last night for the fuck of it. Tanked ZG with a guild group and the place is a joke.

4/27/2011 12:26:35 PM

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"the place game is a joke."

5/5/2011 12:00:19 AM

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agree. Everquest was one of the best games i've ever played, and yet it had a 5.5 year true lifespan (kinda died out after WoW released), therefore i think WoW will die very soon as well, it has outlived its time.

5/5/2011 12:55:29 AM

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Pretty sure I'm finally done with this game...played a bit of Cata and it was great but endgame doesn't hold the same luster it used to for me. I'm looking forward to a change of pace like The Old Republic (if it ever comes out) or just some Diablo III

5/5/2011 7:57:47 AM

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^^disagree. The new content in Cataclysm was stellar. As an expansion it was leaps and bounds beyond either The Burning Crusade or Wrath of the Lich King. I highly doubt the game is anywhere near "dying out."

^also looking forward to Diablo III, but I don't see it as a replacement for WoW.

[Edited on May 5, 2011 at 9:11 AM. Reason : .]

5/5/2011 9:10:39 AM

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^are you kidding? pvp is all kinds of fucked. sure the pve is more challenging than wotlk but it's not altogether new either. the whole game feels rehashed. hybrids are more powerful than ever in pve and pvp with seemingly no penalty for their flexibility/wider toolset. wow saw consistent growth for the first 4 years, it's stayed flat for the last 2 and change. rift and gw2 will leech a lot of the fan base and the game will taper. I don't see wow gaining any subscribers anytime soon

5/5/2011 2:55:51 PM

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PVP has always been "all kinds of fucked." If anything rated battlegrounds has the potential to attract many more players than rated arenas ever did. Everyone has always complained that PVP was an afterthought.

You must be thinking endgame raiding only in regards to your pve commentary. Cataclysm (well, technically patch 4.0) brought incredibly dynamic and fun quests to the old world in addition to excellent content in the post 80 levels and dungeons. The endgame content that isn't raiding is incredibly accessible for all players.

The whole game feels rehashed to you. Guild Progression has given even us old dogs a lot to work toward, in addition to the new content which is more dynamic and in many ways more difficult than ever.

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"hybrids are more powerful than ever"

how do you figure? http://stateofdps.com/ shows the top 5 dps being 3 pure dps classes and 2 hybrids. The top being Mages. There are plenty of people playing pure dps at the top level of play.

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"wow saw consistent growth for the first 4 years, it's stayed flat for the last 2 and change."


You have any data to back this claim up? We're not hurting for recruits for our 25m and we're on a low pop pvp server. We're not seeing a mass exodus yet.

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"rift and gw2 will leech a lot of the fan base and the game will taper."

Time will tell this I suppose. I know I've heard it before. "THIS is the MMO that will kill WoW"

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"I don't see wow gaining any subscribers anytime soon"

I've seen quite a bit more WoW advertisements and offers on TV and around the Internet and coupled with the 0-60 content actually being fun (way more fun than when we went through it with Classic WoW) I don't think they'll have a problem getting new players and keeping them.

5/5/2011 4:06:09 PM

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i've killed heroic nef 25 man now about 3 or 4 times. If you think the game is boring/easy, go do that fight.

5/5/2011 5:01:35 PM

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http://www.wowwiki.com/Statistics
http://gigaom.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/warcraft-realms-data.gif
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1965843078?page=1

wow has not increased its subscription base since 2008, they are still touting 11.5 million subscribers, just like they did in 2009.
rift has more than one million subscribers in less than 6 months, no other mmo has done this besides wow (in the US)
I'm not saying it will kill wow, but it's certainly leeching perspective customers away.

my evidence of pure vs hybrid dps may be skewed because i didnt stay around to gear out my character on the pvp end. I got to 2k, got my glad weapons and my glad gear and quit because it was boring and completely unbalanced and I was tired of undeserved nerfs. when I quit, moonkin was beyond OP and they only had to spam one button, feral was doing 20k bleed ticks, and dk's were doing more HPS than some of our priests. i was mainly speaking to how easily a hybrid could compete at top dps rather than only the best of the best being able to compete like in days past and their ridiculous pvp damage at the time of my departure from the game.

^I'm not gonna renew my sub and waste my time gearing and playing for them to throw me 1 bone per content patch. there's just too much investment for too little fun now.

[Edited on May 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM. Reason : ^]

5/5/2011 5:17:16 PM

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"Cataclysm (well, technically patch 4.0) brought incredibly dynamic and fun quests to the old world in addition to excellent content in the post 80 levels and dungeons."


I agree with this. But what's the point of spending so much time making cool quests? I'm gonna do the quest once (a couple other times if i have alts), and then i won't ever think about it or do it again.

They need to spend more time improving things that will hold our interest at end-game and not during the leveling process.

5/5/2011 7:57:06 PM

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Been a longtime WoW player and I must admit that the most exciting part of my WoW career was staying up all night/day to get from 80-85. The quests were epic, the leveling zones were fun and beautiful. The instances were great.

Then you go back to them in heroics - meh
Level an alt - meh
Do 5/13 H content - meh
Receive no new raid content since release - Cancel subscription

I'm playing casually again now because Rift had a very similar "meh" feeling at 50.

5/6/2011 12:48:14 PM

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your favorite part of wow was a 2 day poopsock run?
sad

5/6/2011 7:08:48 PM

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I'd say to this point my favorite part of WoW was BC. It was such a change from Vanilla. The raid content was such a step up from MC/BWL/AQ40. I also appreciated more of the lore aspect with the blood elves and Illodan.

5/6/2011 7:58:44 PM

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"your favorite part of wow was a 2 day poopsock run?
sad "


huh? must be terrible then

14 hrs. much more exciting then raiding the same content for 6 months.

the game is shit.

5/6/2011 9:21:30 PM

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Smoothcrim was right.

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"WoW Lost 600k Subscribers, down to 11.4M
Activision Blizzard's earning call was today and we learned, among other things, that the WoW playerbase is down to 11.4M players. That's 5% less than before the expansion and it seems that players went through the Cataclysm content faster than expected.

Blizzard also promised faster release of new content and expansions during the call.

From Curse.com
During today's Activision Blizzard earnings call, World of Warcraft and its expansion Cataclysm were two very hot topics. Listeners asked a number of questions related to the game, more than any other title or franchise in the publisher's stable.

Of note, World of Warcraft's subscriber base has reached pre-Cataclysm levels, according to Mike Morhaime, CEO of Blizzard Entertainment. He then later stated an actual number, with subscriptions at the end of March clocking in at right around 11.4 million.

That's down by about 5% from the announced 12 million mark late last year. Interestingly enough, that was right before Cataclysm released. In fact, it's actually lower than the milestone reached in 2008 with the release of Wrath of the Lich King.

But one important thing to point out, and Mr. Morhaime touched on this as well, is that World of Warcraft's subscriber base does not change linearly. It fluctuates based on content consumption, which players seem to be doing a whole lot of -- at a more rapid pace -- with Cataclysm. "Subscriber levels have decreased faster than previous expansions," he said.

Surprising? Not really. We have to remember that when these numbers were pulled, Cataclysm was in a bit of a lull. The expansion had been out for close to four months, and most of its content had been consumed by a large percentage of the player base -- aside from heroic raids."


[Edited on May 10, 2011 at 7:00 AM. Reason : S]

5/10/2011 6:59:33 AM

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Yeah, what a death knell.

5/10/2011 8:52:04 AM

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hopefully they take this as a wake up call.

people don't want to complete every single snippet of content there is. its not like i'll never go back and do 4.0/4.1 content as soon as 4.2 came out. Hell people were still doing achievement runs and fun runs in ulduar/naxx up until cataclysm came out. There's no justifiable reason firelands should not be out right now.

Blizzard keeps putting words in our mouths of what the playerbase currently needs, and needs to start actually listening to us instead of having 6 month gaps between new content.

5/11/2011 4:45:20 PM

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Blizzard is only looking to coast this game as long as it can now. Its major developers are working on other projects (one of which is rumored to be another MMORPG)

5/12/2011 8:51:51 AM

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