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The new Louisiana bill has amended the current law's language to make sure abortion criminalization covers ectopic pregnancies. https://t.co/wHDq5aiXGC "

5/5/2022 8:09:13 PM

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Changing it from implantation to fertilization also kills a good amount of birth control and IVF.

[Edited on May 5, 2022 at 9:21 PM. Reason : A]

5/5/2022 9:14:47 PM

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they’re the biggest group of elderly edgelords in the country and they’re tripping over each other to out-evil one another

there is absolutely no surprise in any of this and anyone who has supported the party in the past is complicit

[Edited on May 5, 2022 at 10:26 PM. Reason : .]

5/5/2022 10:24:59 PM

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Ectopic pregnancies? Really?

Do the people writing these laws even consult medical professionals?

5/6/2022 10:08:57 AM

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Of course not. Anti intellectualism is a pillar of their ideology.

5/6/2022 11:02:20 AM

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"Of course Democrats will be saying things like "Reproductive rights are health care!" instead of "Republicans are forcing a 13 year-old girl raped and impregnated by her father to carry the child to term" and "Louisiana can charge any woman on the pill with first-degree murder.""

https://twitter.com/LesserFrederick/status/1522101308634845184?t=JTEKNB4Ki-DiPhemjAfkMQ&s=19

5/6/2022 12:09:43 PM

rwoody
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T-aDTsZXnKhMcrDmtcD35aWs00gw5piocDhaFy5LKDY/edit?usp=drivesdk

Doc with links to abortion funds in every state

5/7/2022 10:36:55 AM

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"New: Republican senate candidate Blake Masters, a venture capitalist backed by billionaire Republican donor Peter Thiel, suggested he supports the banning of contraception between married couples on his campaign website. @DillonReedRose

https://t.co/E2v8PpikIZ"

5/7/2022 7:29:51 PM

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Guys, ^ is not typical Republican ideals. These fucktards are giving us a really bad name.

5/8/2022 6:06:20 PM

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Feel free to drop the identity at any time.

5/8/2022 7:20:21 PM

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"Guys, ^ is not typical Republican ideals"


Of course it is

5/8/2022 7:32:30 PM

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^^^That's funny, I heard the exact same thing multiple times regarding Roe v Wade.

[Edited on May 8, 2022 at 7:34 PM. Reason : ^]

5/8/2022 7:33:55 PM

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" More than half of the women and girls of reproductive age in the U.S. live in 28 states that could seek to ban or further restrict access to abortion if the Supreme Court were to overturn Roe v. Wade. See our analysis of those states. https://t.co/360gbAvSXT"


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/05/07/us/abortion-access-roe-v-wade.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

I’m sure it’ll be super easy for them to travel to states that don’t criminalize it, tho

[Edited on May 8, 2022 at 8:29 PM. Reason : .]

5/8/2022 8:02:00 PM

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I worded that comment poorly TGL - I meant to say that Roe v Wade being overturned wouldn't stop people from getting abortions. I just didn't specify all the ways they'd attempt it. I'm not in favor of overturning it, and the idiots who are trying to doing it are only doing it to buy passage into the pearly gates.

5/8/2022 8:57:33 PM

rwoody
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Or for money and power

5/8/2022 9:21:47 PM

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http://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1523502742437720064

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" CHUCK TODD: If there is legislation brought to you to ban contraception, would you sign it?

GOV. TATE REEVES: I don't think that's going to happen in Mississippi.

TODD: You're not answering the question.

REEVES: Well, there's so many things that we can talk about. https://t.co/dooWFdPNvW"


a comprehensive thread on what Republicans are proposing throughout the country:

https://mobile.twitter.com/themaxburns/status/1523482938628665345

not typical Republicans, though

[Edited on May 8, 2022 at 11:37 PM. Reason : .]

5/8/2022 11:36:36 PM

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I don't understand why anyone would want to ban contraception - just like I don't understand why the Catholic church feels the same way.

5/9/2022 8:34:19 AM

Cabbage
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Because they think sex is for procreation; using it for simple pleasure is a sin.

5/9/2022 9:04:25 AM

rwoody
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Nah it's to control the populace. Almost nobody actually thinks sex for pleasure is a sin, or almost nobody lives like that anyway.

The catholic church is wildly obvious. The more babies there are, the more catholics there are.

5/9/2022 10:01:53 AM

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Pelosi and rj on the same page
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".@SpeakerPelosi: "I want the Republican Party to take back the party to where you were when you cared about a woman's right to choose, you cared about the environment. Here I am, Nancy Pelosi, saying this country needs a strong Republican Party. Not a cult." https://t.co/h12SSFQKdk"

5/10/2022 8:34:43 AM

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I feel like if Romney had won in 2012, we would be seeing a completely different Republican party than what we have today. I really wish the cultists to which Pelosi refers would go and create their own party. The Republicans would never win another major election, but it might get them on the path to restructuring.

5/10/2022 8:42:17 AM

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I don't think Romney was the turning point. I think if we didn't have hard right wing news media like Limbough and Fox News for nearly 30 years we'd have a different Republican party.

On the other hand, the Christian right movement has been gaining steam since the Reagan administration in particular, plus the Southern Strategy from the Nixon era both play a part as well, so fuck if I know.

5/10/2022 8:01:07 PM

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I think Limbaugh, Fox News, and the like were definitely the primer, but Romney losing (aka a black man becoming president) was absolutely a huge turning point for a lot of these people.

5/10/2022 8:31:14 PM

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The black man had already been president four years when Romney lost. I do think Obama winning was a turning point, but that was McCain losing, not Romney.

5/10/2022 9:38:10 PM

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No, the reason I say Romney is because Obama winning a second term paved the way for Trump.

If Romney had won in 2012, I don't think Trump would have risen to prominence.

[Edited on May 10, 2022 at 10:09 PM. Reason : one]

5/10/2022 10:09:12 PM

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^^oh yeah

5/10/2022 10:19:41 PM

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^^I disagree. I think ultimately Romney would have been considered yet another RINO that failed to deliver on GOP promises like abortion. I think those failures would've further radicalized the party. Granted, it may have thrown off the timing for Trump to run a successful campaign--Romney would've been the incumbent in 2016, which would be a huge hurdle against Trump, but 2020 might've still been open for him. At any rate, that further radicalization of the party would have opened the door for Trump or some Trump like candidate--maybe even someone more dangerous than trump: a smarter Trump.

[Edited on May 10, 2022 at 10:21 PM. Reason : ^^]

5/10/2022 10:20:19 PM

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" No, the reason I say Romney is because Obama winning a second term paved the way for Trump."


the hardest nah, and quite a funny way to go out of your way to blame Obama

5/10/2022 10:52:56 PM

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If Florida hadn’t fucked up in 2000, Trump would still be on twitter, and Putin wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine.

5/11/2022 12:53:46 AM

Cabbage
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^I do agree that 9/11 and GWB's response were huge fucking catalysts in the radicalization of the Right.

5/11/2022 2:21:54 AM

rjrumfel
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WTF TGL...in no way am I blaming Obama for Trump. But even if I did say "Obama paved the way for Trump"....that isn't a statement of blame of fault. It wouldn't be like Obama purposefully made way for MAGA. It wasn't his fault that Trump trumpeted the birth cert stuff.

But to say I'm somehow blaming Obama for Trump via a Romney proxy is just pretty dumb.

5/11/2022 9:39:09 AM

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I do agree with the take that having a black man elected as President invigorated the extreme right wing folks even more to elect someone like Trump. Had 2008 and 2012 gone to someone like, idk, Jon Edwards, you probably wouldn't have seen Trump. I think Clinton, or any woman, would have had the same effect as Obama.

These people are batshit crazy and the anger of not having a white male elected made people latch onto Alex Jones, Tucker, Hannity, etc even more. The whole birther conspiracy was people getting their feet wet in the insane pool. It's not Obama's fault that these people are fucking morons. It's the GOP's fault for not putting this movement down instead of using dog whistles or just all out supporting these claims (looking at you MTG).

5/11/2022 11:01:39 AM

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thats been their party for decades, though

they just found it acceptable to take their masks off when a Black guy was elected President

5/11/2022 2:47:18 PM

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I don't think you can point to an election and say "If only that had gone differently, there'd be no Trumpism." Looking back, it seems obvious that this was the inevitable fate of the Republican Party since at least the Nixon era (and the fate of the conservative-racist streak of American politics going back to at least the Civil War). Sooner or later, they weren't going to be able create the illusion of an ideology bigger than, "Power for us, and own the libs." Trump was just the biggest step towards dropping the pretense altogether.

5/11/2022 4:08:14 PM

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I mean you could keep going, but it definitely continues the time-honored tradition of psychologically dominating and weaponizing the "white" lower-classes by the Southern Planter Class.

They've had mind control over these people for so long, it really is their heritage.

[Edited on May 11, 2022 at 4:21 PM. Reason : +]

5/11/2022 4:18:01 PM

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5/11/2022 5:04:51 PM

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Sure, but I think post 2008 is when the GOP lost control of their crazies.

5/11/2022 7:36:33 PM

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^^^

5/12/2022 5:30:19 AM

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"The draft Roe v. Wade opinion states that "a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the nation's histories and traditions."

A manual by founding father Benjamin Franklin, which includes instructions for at-home abortions, suggests otherwise."

5/18/2022 3:05:31 PM

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^oops: https://www.npr.org/2022/05/18/1099542962/abortion-ben-franklin-roe-wade-supreme-court-leak

also: https://www.wral.com/religious-backers-of-abortion-rights-say-gods-on-their-side/20291103/

5/20/2022 12:52:09 PM

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