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WolfPack2017
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How will the school afford paying them? Are you suggesting that we do away with every sport except the ones we're bad at just so we can pay some guys who aren't even here for an education? That's a disgrace to this university. If the day ever comes when we have to pay athletes I hope the chancellor takes the opportunity to remove that cancer from us.

4/22/2014 9:12:10 AM

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I agree, it's time to end the sham idea of student athletes. Either just field a professional football team and pay them or don't. It's not rocket science. Football and basketball would still have tremendous drawing power for the university, generate revenue, drive applications, etc.

It won't really matter though once they lose court battles on one and dones, lose some of their special privileges in keeping kids from going straight to the pros, etc.

Eventually the NFL is just going to have to develop a minor league system once the NCAA gets its asshole torn asunder in court.

4/22/2014 1:14:27 PM

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I know the logistics and enforcement of it may be a pain in the ass, but its pretty obvious the easy way out here. Schools are not allowed to provide any more money than a full scholarship would normally provide. Boosters or people associated with the school should not be able to provide money especially during the recruiting process.

However, if the athletes can find other ways to get paid then by all means let them. If someone wants to give them money to come sign autographs at their store or an agent wants to front them some money in hopes they will sign with them later then let them.

Lets say a regular student on a full scholarship gets a job offer their sophmore year and with acceptance they are going to get a 10k signing bonus... is there any problem with that? Are they going to be tossed out of school? Nope! Obviously said company wanted them and was willing to take a risk to get their talent and they were rewarded for that. No real difference in my opinion.

4/22/2014 3:19:30 PM

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http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/23/pf/college/student-athlete-union-survey/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

4/23/2014 10:59:36 AM

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^^totally agree with this.

ncaa is not losing out on their millions off of these 'student/athletes' with side gigs like that either. plus it might be incentive to keep better players in the NCAA longer which I think would increase popularity and revenue of college athletics in general as it would become at least somewhat more entertaining.

4/23/2014 2:23:51 PM

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How would it keep players in college longer? If they're making money now it will just make them want to get fully paid more. If they get paid their freshman year they'll ask themselves "what's the purpose of even staying if I can make way more?".

4/23/2014 3:31:52 PM

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Well, as predicted by everyone with any kind of sense the NCAA lost the O'Bannon lawsuit. The only potential snag is the completely arbitrary dollar amount the judge said the NCAA could set per player (min. $5k cap limit).

It's going to get appealed, probably all the way to the supreme court, but their arguments are laughable, and most of what they trotted out there runs completely contrary to the agreement they just made with the power conference schools.

I can't wait to watch them get smacked down again.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/11328442/judge-rules-ncaa-ed-obannon-antitrust-case

8/8/2014 7:29:32 PM

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The judge's rationale was laughable. It is antitrust to not pay them, and schools/conferences can't collude on setting pay, but here is an arbitrary max.

8/9/2014 8:00:39 AM

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http://www.wralsportsfan.com/board-dismisses-ruling-to-allow-college-athletes-to-unionize/14836681/

8/17/2015 4:06:52 PM

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i dont think schools should pay players but why do we care if boosters and agents do again?

8/17/2015 5:21:37 PM

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^ Because that quickly becomes schools paying players by proxy.

8/17/2015 5:33:09 PM

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Quote :
"Lets say a regular student on a full scholarship gets a job offer their sophmore year and with acceptance they are going to get a 10k signing bonus... is there any problem with that? Are they going to be tossed out of school? Nope! Obviously said company wanted them and was willing to take a risk to get their talent and they were rewarded for that. No real difference in my opinion."


The NCAA puts limits on how much they can make with a job while playing because they want to prevent cheating. An old boss of mine said at one of his previous jobs some college football players were getting paid about $17 an hour to pretty much sweep the floors and do nothing else just because he cheered for the team they played on. A normal employee in the same position was making about $8 and hour. When you start letting them do the same things as other students then all of the sudden the players are getting 50k signing bonuses even though the average person is only getting 10k.

8/17/2015 5:44:31 PM

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Quote :
""Lets say a regular student on a full scholarship gets a job offer their sophmore year and with acceptance they are going to get a 10k signing bonus... is there any problem with that? Are they going to be tossed out of school? Nope! Obviously said company wanted them and was willing to take a risk to get their talent and they were rewarded for that. No real difference in my opinion.""


that's a pretty shitty comparison. no one is kicking the athletes out of school.

8/17/2015 5:46:28 PM

rwoody
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https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/27957981/ncaa-votes-allow-athletes-profit-likeness?sf222472983=1

(a mambagrl thread!)

10/29/2019 2:46:30 PM

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After the brief discussion in the Annoying/Overused Phrases thread (https://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=652111) I thought it was time to revive this thread.

Anyone have any different opinions? Opposed, not opposed? Ideas on how to do it or not do it?

4/26/2021 11:07:49 AM

rayef3rw
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I'll re-post what I put there:

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"I'm actually of the opinion they should be paid... a salary cap would solve a lot of the problems current CFB faces.

There are only 2 reasons the rule exists in the first place, and they're both from 100 years ago... First, it was to prevent teams from hiring random non-students to play for a game or two, and second, because prima dona schools like UVA and UNC would bar pro (summer) baseball players as "professional" players to remove a team's best player and get an easier win.

That's why it was made a rule in the first place and the only reason it's still a rule is because???

[Edited on April 22, 2021 at 6:34 PM. Reason : Now, I should mention that if they do get a salary then we should get rid of scholarships...]"

4/26/2021 11:18:48 AM

dmspack
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Pay em

4/26/2021 8:28:11 PM

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