every article ive read says that Goodell and some of the other owners cringed at half of what JR was doing

2/14/2011 10:10:22 PM

This shit is big business.

Big Cat just gotta keep these fucking workers in line, lest they think they are somebody.

2/14/2011 11:51:52 PM

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"every article ive read says that Goodell and some of the other owners cringed at half of what JR was doing"

goodell is putting on the cooperation face while putting the owners (read, richardson) on attack mode...Makes him look like he is somewhat sympathetic to the players when he concedes a little bit on behalf of the owners.

quite smart actually

2/15/2011 10:19:07 AM

does Richardson's stance harm the ability of Carolina to sign decent talent? I mean, he's got every right to be a hardass, but does it make Carolina look unattractive?

Not that it matters if he's hellbent on decimating his roster like last year.

2/15/2011 10:20:49 AM

good cop bad cop

2/15/2011 10:24:25 AM

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"does Richardson's stance harm the ability of Carolina to sign decent talent?"

if you mean his stance of keeping his wallet puckered tighter than a ducks ass, then yes, yes it does.

2/15/2011 11:31:51 AM

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"if you mean his stance of keeping his wallet puckered tighter than a ducks ass, then yes, yes it does."

No, not that one.

The one where he's a curmudgeonly old fuck.

2/15/2011 11:37:22 AM

It sounds more like he was joking sarcastically to me.

2/15/2011 3:18:57 PM

who knows if he even said it

2/15/2011 3:21:28 PM

i have no problem with what richardson said.

2/15/2011 8:39:17 PM

god forbid that some of these fucking babies that get paid big money get upset over labor talks

players and owners aren't the only ones whose employment is directly tied to the NFL. Sure, this is pertaining directly to revenue sharing between the two sides, but more money for the owners will directly impact numerous other people (and yes, I realize the players and the union aren't the only ones impacted by the amount of revenue the players get)

He probably could have been nicer but Big Cat does have a lot of responsibility. Plus, I bet Drew Brees is really a colossal dick.

2/15/2011 8:43:48 PM

He has a good point though, what does Peyton Manning know about player safety? Any time someone gets near him he just sits down on the ground instead of taking a hit. The players are just complaining because they don't make as much as baseball players or soccer players in Europe and they are jealous.

2/16/2011 6:20:11 AM

It's not what he said, it's how he said it. You can disagree without being a dick about it.

2/16/2011 8:36:04 AM

Bout sick of this old fool.

For me, the next millenium must be............................Jerry Free.

2/16/2011 9:17:23 AM

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"He has a good point though, what does Peyton Manning know about player safety? Any time someone gets near him he just sits down on the ground instead of taking a hit. The players are just complaining because they don't make as much as baseball players or soccer players in Europe and they are jealous."

The players are fine with how much they make now.

It's not a strike, it's a lockout.

2/16/2011 9:29:19 AM

^^

2/16/2011 9:33:29 AM

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"does Richardson's stance harm the ability of Carolina to sign decent talent? I mean, he's got every right to be a hardass, but does it make Carolina look unattractive? "

The answer to this is yes but for several reasons:

1) He will never pay for big talent so it doesn't matter.
2) Carolina's program suffers because he never spends money in the right places.
3) The man can't speak and sounds like he's drunk all the time so people don't take him seriously anyhow.
4) The guy is a complete and utter asshole.
5) Now he's taken more of the national spotlight by broadcasting these fine qualities to the league and the public. This can only further hurt Carolina.


As I said before, the Panthers will not be a successful franchise (several good years back to back and possibly a super bowl win) until Marty Hurney and Jerry Richardson die or are run out of Charlotte.

2/16/2011 10:10:48 AM

2/16/2011 11:39:16 AM

^^i disagree with a good bit of that

3 NFC title games and a SB appearance in 16 years sounds pretty successful to me

offering to make Julius Peppers the highest paid defensive player in NFL history sounds like he's willing to pay for big talent

and despite some soundclip a former kicker who wasn't even in the room at the time supposedly heard about, the owners all still have his back...this has been blown way out of proportion imo

2/16/2011 1:36:50 PM

^^^ You want to run the owner out of town?

Right, because that worked so well last time, when the city ran Shit and Woolbitch out of town and ended up with a team run by the most niggardly owner in professional sports.

2/16/2011 1:45:27 PM

^ come on now

That racist insult is uncalled for. Edit that while you still have time.

2/16/2011 1:49:21 PM

while I don't like the word (at all), it isn't a racist term

if used correctly, of course

2/16/2011 1:52:13 PM

I heard from someone today that jay feely leaked these insults to the media even though he wasn't in this meeting and that what was actually said is either being misrepresented or blown out of proportion. of course if this is true I would expect it to be old news by now, and if it isn't true well I guess that's what I get for believing what someone tells me.

2/16/2011 2:06:27 PM

Niggardly is a great word. I like to use it in business emails for the shock factor.

2/16/2011 2:35:15 PM

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"Right, because that worked so well last time, when the city ran Shit and Woolbitch out of town and ended up with a team run by the most niggardly owner in professional sports. "

Michael Jordan?

2/16/2011 3:38:01 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AleM.A58rewTP0gv3pivaTJDubYF?slug=ms-richardsonnfl021411

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"Among other things, Richardson became so angry at Sean Morey(notes) after the recently retired player cited a slew of statistics on player safety and average career length that the Panthers’ owner snapped, “You guys made so much [expletive] money – if you played three years in the NFL, you should own your own [expletive] team.” “It was bad from the start,” said one player who attended the session. “[Richardson] opened the meeting by describing how he was almost annoyed how we would ask for that meeting on their busiest weekend of the year. And I’m thinking, ‘Your team finished 2-14. You shouldn’t be that busy. Why are you worrying about how busy you are during Super Bowl weekend?’ ”"

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"As one perennial Pro Bowl player told me Monday morning, “When the owners want to get serious, they just need to get him out of the room – because we’ll never get a deal done with him in there. It’s not professional, and it’s not good business.” He was condescending to Peyton,” said one player who was at the meeting. “He tried to talk about P&L [profit and loss] statements and all these other risks that the owners assume, as if Peyton didn’t know anything. Drew interrupted and said, ‘All we’re doing is just asking you to show us your books. We want to negotiate in good faith. As Richardson gave his salty reply, witnesses said, other owners and Goodell became visibly uncomfortable, and someone suggested that the two sides take a break. Shortly thereafter, several owners (including the Patriots’ Robert Kraft, the Giants’ John Mara and the Chiefs’ Clark Hunt) apologized to the players who were present, assuring them that they respect the union’s position. Richardson, said one player, apologized to Manning for having lost his cool."

lol:

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" If your heart were rapidly failing and you suddenly were granted a chance to return to health, would you a) go to work in your pajamas, hand hundred-dollar bills to strangers and dole out random hugs to supermarket clerks, or b) fire your sons and talk smack to two of the NFL’s most popular and accomplished players?"

[Edited on February 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM. Reason : .]

2/16/2011 3:41:25 PM

^^ I was alluding to the notoriously cheap Bob Johnson, who at one point tried to eliminate the Bobcats radio broadcasts in an effort to cut costs. He was a miserly fuck.

2/16/2011 5:11:44 PM

Panthers franchise Ryan Kalil.

2/22/2011 4:17:13 PM

Interesting.

I'm worried we are going to lose DeAngelo and Charles Johnson now though.

2/22/2011 4:20:18 PM

Bullshit that the payscale for franchised O lineman factors OT's pay into the compensation for centers

I would have rather tagged Johnson

2/22/2011 4:20:46 PM

I'd hate to see us lose Deangelo, hopefully we use the transition tag or sign him to a 2-3 year deal. I don't want us to lose such a talented player with nothing in return like Peppers.

And despite Deangelo's age, I think he has plenty left in the tank. It's not like he was a feature back every year, he was either backing up Foster, or sharing carries with Stewart. He's not asked to handle a Michael Turner type workload.

2/22/2011 4:22:26 PM

I respect your admiration for Williams, but I'd rather have Stewart + Goodson + 12 million to work with than all three and a lot less money to plug our laundry list of holes on both sides of the ball.

2/22/2011 4:24:32 PM

well said SF

2/22/2011 4:25:40 PM

If we lose Williams, I would just like to get a player and/or draft picks in return, since we didn't get that for Peppers

2/22/2011 4:26:15 PM

the time for that was last offseason

2/22/2011 4:27:10 PM

^^ he's already an UFA, so the panthers have zero leverage to do anything with him except re-sign him

2/22/2011 4:38:53 PM

Lets trade someone we don't have under contract

Brilliant thinking

2/22/2011 4:45:00 PM

If there's a lockout will they still have the 2011 draft?

2/22/2011 4:51:50 PM

^yes

2/22/2011 4:57:19 PM

Hearing rumors that steve smith could be going to the pats for a 2nd round pick

2/22/2011 7:53:15 PM

So we get the pick back we traded to them to move up and grab Armanti in exchange for Steve Smith.

If I was Hurney I would be ashamed to show my face in public.

2/22/2011 8:02:54 PM

Steve Smith for Super Bowl 47 MVP

(i think its 47 next year)

2/22/2011 8:04:19 PM

the 33rd pick would be good value for smitty (it sucks that it was our pick in the first place stupid hearney .. would hate to see him go, but it would def free us up to truly rebuild.. as well as trade or draft AJ Green to replace him

Smitty is aging and is going to be wasted until we find a qb.

[Edited on February 22, 2011 at 8:12 PM. Reason : ]

2/22/2011 8:11:21 PM

XLV != 46

2/22/2011 8:11:45 PM

i was thinking 38 (Panthers/Patriots) was in 2003 but I must have been a year off

2/22/2011 8:18:03 PM

the season for 38 was 2003, but the game was actually in 04

2/22/2011 10:34:13 PM

those years blur together, because it was the modern pinnacle of sports greatness for me as a NCSU football/NCSU bball/Panthers fan

2/22/2011 10:35:51 PM

We'll re-sign Charles Johnson(def didn't deserve top 5 DE money) and DeA will walk.

Would have been nice to get something out of DeA trade-wise, but I'm fine with our platoon of RBs. But someone mentioned us saving 12 million, which is great on paper, but until we get an owner willing to spend money, that's a non-issue. We were the worst team in the NFL last year with the youngest team and MOST cap space, and with Richardson's current attitude, I just don't see his spending changing much.

2/23/2011 8:09:41 AM

i REALLY doubt that richardson will continue his miserly ways once the new CBA is signed. i'm sure he's smart enough to figure out that panthers fans are good fans, but a continually shitty product will lead to an empty stadium. charlotte doesn't have the population density of die hards who will go to games regardless of how bad the team is. look for him to make some big signings once things get hammered out in mediation

2/23/2011 9:12:55 AM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/24/panthers-to-restrict-deangelo-williams-charles-johnson/

2/24/2011 8:55:34 AM