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JesusHChrist
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Seems like a good hire.

I liked O'Brien and I think he did a good job of lifting this football program out of the gutter and into respectability, and there's now a solid foundation in place here to take the program to the next level, and hopefully he can do that. I'm interested in seeing how this plays out.

12/2/2012 8:43:44 PM

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I'm mildly optimistic

12/2/2012 8:47:21 PM

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Gives up BCS bowl to coach us.... Credible

12/2/2012 8:49:16 PM

Wolfman Tim
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I'm sure the 1.8 million/yr helped

12/2/2012 8:51:26 PM

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T minus 2 years until "FIRE DAVE" rants

12/2/2012 9:14:12 PM

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"Gives up BCS bowl to coach us."


Yeah, that's commitment. Hopefully he doesn't regret leaving after he has been here a few years.

12/2/2012 9:29:41 PM

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"Gives up BCS bowl to coach us"


He got his first taste of NC State Shit before the ink on the contract was dry.

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"and there's now a solid foundation in place here"


Let's not get carried away.

12/2/2012 9:48:06 PM

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Niu Oc not coming to state. Promoted to hc at niu??

[Edited on December 2, 2012 at 10:42 PM. Reason : m]

12/2/2012 10:42:14 PM

UJustWait84
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As a State fan, I'm used to coaching switches not really having an effect, so I can't get super excited about this hire. I mean yeah the guy won at NIU, but I doubt he'll suddenly transform our mediocre program into a powerhouse. Besides, if he did, he'd probably bounce to an even better school for more money. Yes, I'm a bitter, broken hearted State football fan

12/2/2012 10:55:02 PM

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Even if you liked what TOB has done here all indications seem to be that this guy has similar values in how he runs his program, he just wins a lot more. In that respect, if you liked TOB going from a 64 year old TOB to a 41 year old TOB is still a good move.

12/2/2012 11:08:32 PM

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"Niu Oc not coming to state. Promoted to hc at niu??"


During the presser Doeren mentioned that NIU was promoting from within, so I guess he already knew that. Also explains why he said he had a top 5 of OC's and he wasn't sure who he was going to get yet.

12/2/2012 11:32:06 PM

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The Wolfpacker mentioned Texas A&M WR coach David Beaty as a candidate for OC.

12/3/2012 12:03:46 AM

thegoodlife3
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"He is sooo much more humanly relatable than TOB was."


what in the fuck is this even supposed to mean?

12/3/2012 12:18:06 AM

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"The Wolfpacker mentioned Texas A&M WR coach David Beaty as a candidate for OC."


Looking at his resume, this would be underwhelming. Hopefully he'd draw more off the Sumlin/Kingsbury offense than whatever they were doing at Kansas.

12/3/2012 2:15:15 AM

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so the question is, are we looking forward to another season of EPIC DANA BIBLE PLAYCALLING

12/3/2012 3:28:19 AM

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[quot]what in the fuck is this even supposed to mean?
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Friendly? Relatable? Pleasant?

what do you mean what does it mean

12/3/2012 3:45:56 AM

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^

12/3/2012 5:49:15 AM

hey now
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End of Doeren's last game currently airing on ESPNU.

12/3/2012 8:24:48 AM

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"As a State fan, I'm used to coaching switches not really having an effect"


??

12/3/2012 8:36:37 AM

spydyrwyr
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I have one MAJOR concern with this hire: throughout the press conference and in one-on-one interviews afterwards, there was a conspicuous lack of super-loud nasal inhalations. NOT ONCE did it sound like he was trying to snort a microphone.

12/3/2012 8:42:39 AM

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Happy Birthday Coach

+41

12/3/2012 9:33:25 AM

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any news on coordinators/assistants?

his NIU OC is out, due to being name new HC at NIU

12/3/2012 10:37:11 AM

sand robot
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rumors floating around about Tenuta talking to Doeren about staying on but as the DC

[Edited on December 3, 2012 at 10:41 AM. Reason : v]

12/3/2012 10:40:58 AM

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I wouldn't be surprised if Yow pushes for that considering she assumedly busted her ass to keep him here

12/3/2012 10:54:12 AM

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"As a State fan, I'm used to coaching switches not really having an effect"


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"??"


Makes sense to me. You might get an initial bump in results or you might have to climb out of an initial hole but in the end we'll end up right back at just south of mediocre. At least that's my take on what they meant.

[Edited on December 3, 2012 at 11:03 AM. Reason : -]

12/3/2012 11:03:24 AM

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from page 1

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"^^^ our brand new secondary played a good amount, burriss, Byrd, dontae Johnson.. Just don't know who the other starter would be"

I don't remember Byrd playing that much. It was mainly Amerson, Johnson, Wilson and Burriss.

Johnson was moved to corner this year, but was able to play some hybrid positions as well. I think we see him move back to safety next year to get some experience back there and to help with run support.

Burriss will start at corner. Byrd may start at the other.

The last safety spot could be between Tim Buckley (Penn State transfer) and Hakim Jones - both will be redshirt sophomores.

12/3/2012 12:47:18 PM

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"Niu Oc"

Who the hell is that? Is it some asian dude we're recruiting?

12/3/2012 6:51:23 PM

wdprice3
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wat

12/3/2012 6:52:59 PM

goalielax
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if he keeps tenuta -infinity

12/3/2012 8:55:21 PM

thegoodlife3
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don't bite dudes, don't bite

12/3/2012 8:57:55 PM

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"Makes sense to me. You might get an initial bump in results or you might have to climb out of an initial hole but in the end we'll end up right back at just south of mediocre. At least that's my take on what they meant."


yup

we were cautiously optimistic about Lowe and TOB and look what we got. Of course Lowe had much poorer results, but I think people were even more disappointed in TOB. Sid was over his head from day one, wheres as TOB just couldn't ever break through to the next level.

In six years, we will see how well liked Gott/Doeren are...

[Edited on December 3, 2012 at 9:34 PM. Reason : .]

12/3/2012 9:33:59 PM

hey now
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" Of course Lowe had much poorer results, but I think people were even more disappointed in TOB."



No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No

12/3/2012 9:49:33 PM

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"Makes sense to me. You might get an initial bump in results or you might have to climb out of an initial hole but in the end we'll end up right back at just south of mediocre. At least that's my take on what they meant."
"

You might say we were Fowlered.

12/3/2012 9:51:48 PM

UJustWait84
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^^

You expected the opposite? Wow...

12/4/2012 1:29:26 AM

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are you serious?

i thought sidney lowe was going to do wonderful wonderful things here. it was incredibly disappointing.

i expected TOB to do better than he did, but 2010 is about what i expected from him, he just only did it once. and he gave us 5 carolina wins. it wasn't horrible.

12/4/2012 2:19:46 AM

wstcoastwolf
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^Just extremely frustrating

[Edited on December 4, 2012 at 9:17 AM. Reason : .]

12/4/2012 9:17:03 AM

thegoodlife3
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"Friendly? Relatable? Pleasant?

what do you mean what does it mean"


I took issue with "humanly"

as opoosed to what?

don't mistake an extremely dry sense of humor as being bland

dude was legitimately funny and never failed to take epic digs at Carolina

12/4/2012 9:21:34 AM

Elwood
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*SNIFF*

12/4/2012 9:24:37 AM

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^^

+1

12/4/2012 9:57:42 AM

UJustWait84
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"are you serious?

i thought sidney lowe was going to do wonderful wonderful things here. it was incredibly disappointing.

i expected TOB to do better than he did, but 2010 is about what i expected from him, he just only did it once. and he gave us 5 carolina wins. it wasn't horrible."


100% serious. After herb left, the coaching search was an ABSOLUTE disaster. Nobody wanted the job so we settled for a former player that had some asst coaching experience in the NBA. Perhaps I was in the minority, but I was not happy with the hire. My expectations were that he'd be around for a couple of seasons before we could land a better hire. While some might argue that he was a great recruiter, his teams were extremely poorly coached and we were worse off than with herb. Hard to argue against that.

TOB on the other hand had built a solid program at BC with like 8 winning seasons/bowl appearances. I was hopeful that if he could win at school like BC (nobody in the Boston area gives a flying fuck about BC athletics), he could take NCSU to the next level. His stint in Raleigh was actually WORSE than at BC, despite having better facilities and more resources. I'm pleased with the 5 straight wins over UNC and indifferent about mediocre bowl berths, but he was an even bigger bust than I predicted.

So yeah. Maybe it's just me, but I never saw Lowe being the coach to lead us back to our former glory days, and I was actually dumb enough to think that TOB could make NCSU a better football program than BC.

12/4/2012 10:24:53 AM

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"former player that had some asst coaching experience in the NBA"


he also played in the nba, and was a head coach for the timberwolves and the grizzlies.

12/4/2012 10:29:29 AM

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"David Teel@DavidTeelatDP
Possible new assistants at #UVa include Jon Tenuta and Keith Willis, both of whom coached most recently at NC State under TOB."



Are we going with the "VA is going to buy him away from us" mindset or the "Doeren probably doesn't want him in favor of a better DC" route?

12/4/2012 11:23:32 AM

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I like Willis a lot.

I'm in the minority on Tenuta.

12/4/2012 11:52:31 AM

UJustWait84
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he also played in the nba, and was a head coach for the timberwolves and the grizzlies."


my bad, I forgot about his venerable 79–228 (.257) record as HC

had to look it up on wikipedia LOL

Look, I'm not saying Sid wasn't a huge letdown- I just was personally more irritated by TOB and his inability to take State above mediocrity. He flirted with being an above average coach at times, but overall he felt like the bigger bust to me. I just felt bad for Sid when he was fired. He obviously cared a lot about the program but just couldn't get it done

I suppose we can just agree to disagree

[Edited on December 4, 2012 at 12:44 PM. Reason : .]

12/4/2012 12:43:49 PM

Bullet
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I'll post this in here too: http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20121204/sports/712049955/

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"Sorry ESPN, NIU still going Orange....
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Fifty things had to happen the last two weeks for the conversation to take place, and even then there was no guarantee.

But Sunday night it happened, and the feel-good story of the year in college football wasn’t 60 seconds old when ESPN dropped its pants and rained all over NIU’s parade."


[Edited on December 4, 2012 at 12:51 PM. Reason : ]

12/4/2012 12:51:10 PM

Bullet
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http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/49424/qa-nc-state-coach-dave-doeren-part-i

12/4/2012 1:02:55 PM

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I'm with you, UJustWait84. TOB should have done a lot better than he did. Lowe was a fish out of water.

12/4/2012 1:39:05 PM

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Please don't leave us for Wisconsin

That would be at least -100 credibility

12/4/2012 4:29:30 PM

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don't be ridiculous

12/4/2012 4:31:21 PM

sand robot
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"No need for IBS flare ups guys, Wisconsin is going to go get Paul Chryst back"

12/4/2012 4:33:15 PM

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