that snake podesta just said they won't concede.

11/9/2016 2:03:55 AM

Hillary probably stroked out tonight when she saw the rust belt turn on her.

11/9/2016 2:07:02 AM

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"that snake podesta just said they won't concede."

He has a spirit cooking to go to tonight.

11/9/2016 2:08:05 AM

It's important to note: she outperformed Obama in Florida. She exceeded all his margins in Democratic counties. She matched his raw numbers everywhere else in the state. Trump's voters turned out in numbers that no one saw coming in rural areas. They turned out for Trump's protectionist and xenophobic messaging. They did same across WI/MI/PA. Those voters are why she lost, and it's silly to suggest that another D on the ticket would have flipped them or kept them at home.

[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 2:12 AM. Reason : .]

11/9/2016 2:09:00 AM

you're lying though. wayne county was incredibly close for the place that it is.

11/9/2016 2:09:59 AM

I didn't say anything about Wayne County.

11/9/2016 2:12:21 AM

I'm talking about Wayne County Michigan AKA Detroit.

11/9/2016 2:13:47 AM

Clinton not conceding tonight. Remember the Outrage over Trump potentially not conceding or potentially contesting the election?

11/9/2016 2:16:05 AM

typical...

11/9/2016 2:17:16 AM

hillary won't concede because shes too busy seeking asylum

11/9/2016 2:35:43 AM

Clinton conceded by phone

11/9/2016 2:50:25 AM

i would've loved to have been a fly on the wall in the room where she was watching the results come in

lololol

11/9/2016 3:04:05 AM

Every concession is by phone. The speech is juat to thank the voters and campaign staff.

11/9/2016 3:13:26 AM

She probably didn't have a concession speech written...

11/9/2016 3:21:47 AM

^^^ if she wasn't in tears, then i'd believe she was a lizard person.

11/9/2016 3:52:11 AM

fuck

11/9/2016 4:53:19 AM

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" and it's silly to suggest that another D on the ticket would have flipped them or kept them at home."

Fuck you are dumb, I hope the party excises all you dumb fucks

A D with a populist message about helping working people who wasn't hated by them would have done better

11/9/2016 5:19:31 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwzGBP4XcAAAoQA.jpg

Exit polls are coming in. Looks like Trump actually did slightly better with minorities (2-3% points) than Romney, but Hillary did substantially worse than Obama (but still far better than Trump).

Looks like the attrition from the emails maybe shaved off enough support to give trump the edge overall.

Interesting that the polls before the election got Clinton's support exactly right, but they underestimated Trump's support. My bet at this point is not an issue with sampling, but the questions just weren't phrased in a way to tease out people who supported trump but were ashamed to admit it.

Looks like white women may have been the actual tipping point, trump won them by 9%.

[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 5:44 AM. Reason : ]

11/9/2016 5:37:59 AM

Apparently God gave trump the victory, from what i've seen on facebook:
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14925701_332749210438845_5625286171555366294_n.jpg?oh=be6824e088fb321af79defb0c1eb30a8&oe=588C1B68

11/9/2016 5:45:49 AM

I was completely and utterly wrong. I have no idea how disconnected I was from large swaths of this country.

I hope two and four years from now we can come back and bring balance back to government since at every level this is a Republican controlled country now.

[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 6:11 AM. Reason : time to take a much needed long break from internet/social media now too]

11/9/2016 6:10:14 AM

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"A D with a populist message about helping working people who wasn't hated by them would have done better"

They didn't turn out for a populist message, they turned out for a white nationalist message.

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"Nate CohnVerified account ?@Nate_Cohn The shift from 2012 : Trump makes huge gains in rural America. Clinton makes modest gains in the metros, Utah"

[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 6:55 AM. Reason : .]

11/9/2016 6:26:59 AM

If the party has their heads in their asses as far as you do, the democratic party is fucked. Youre unable to see how those results show that a populist message would have done much better. Totally out of touch like the rest of your inept party.

This shit is the fault of you and your ilk, I hope that you realize it and feel like shit

[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 7:03 AM. Reason : .]

11/9/2016 7:00:30 AM

God damn this is fun to watch

11/9/2016 7:16:51 AM

maybe is wasnt a good idea to try to demonize jews straight white males

11/9/2016 7:27:38 AM

The live stream of Clinton HQ was my favorite part of the night. If only they had a live stream of Clinton. Has anyone checked on Huma? I think she might be in trouble.

11/9/2016 7:29:53 AM

I'm someone that didn't vote for Clinton but would have voted for Bernie.

I'm just going to try to be optimistic that he'll fill his cabinet with talent from both sides and hopefully the next four years won't be quite as disastrous as the Shrikesters will have us believe.

11/9/2016 7:32:59 AM

Prediction: in 4 years poor white people will still feel like they're getting screwed.

11/9/2016 7:46:43 AM

Fill cabinet with... talent... from both sides?


Bless your heart

11/9/2016 8:11:26 AM

His attorney general will probably be Rudy Giuliani. Let that sink in.

11/9/2016 8:13:13 AM

Chris Christie, right?

Gotta #DrainTheSwamp

11/9/2016 8:14:23 AM

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"This shit is the fault of you and your ilk, I hope that you realize it and feel like shit"

Meh, do I question if Bernie would have had a better shot at winning? Of course I do, I question everything I believed before the results came in because most of it turned out to be completely wrong. At the end of the day, this will come down to 1% or less difference in WI, PA, and MI. Maybe Bernie could have flipped that margin, maybe not. I think the main take away is that soft Democrats need a charismatic leader to bring to them to polls. I've said all along that was her biggest weakness.

And I don't feel like shit about being wrong, everyone else was too. I feel bad about what this means for the country.

11/9/2016 8:18:48 AM

His followers have also shown a rejection of any criticism of Trump as well, meaning Senate and House Republicans aren't really going to hold him accountable for any ethics/legal reasons or else they'd basically have to face down their base.

So I expect Trump to run the country like his business, tons of lawyers attacking opponents and concocting bogus legal theories to support ethically dubious positions.


And there won't be a damn thing liberals can do about it

11/9/2016 8:24:30 AM

I hope people don't like making money in 401k's stocks or anything of the sort.

11/9/2016 8:28:53 AM

y

[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 8:33 AM. Reason : y]

11/9/2016 8:32:55 AM

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"Those voters are why she lost, and it's silly to suggest that another D on the ticket would have flipped them or kept them at home."

Goddamn you're an idiot.

11/9/2016 8:34:51 AM

So will the Democrats learn any lessons from this or will we see fucking Michelle Obama on the ticket in 2020?

11/9/2016 8:38:08 AM

Also, Nate Silver did turn out to be right (sort of). His model was less bullish on Hillary's chances because it accounted for the possibility of a large across the board polling error. Of course he thought it could only max out ~3%, it ended up being ~4%. So his model was basically right, it's the polling that was completely wrong.

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"Goddamn you're an idiot."

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"So will the Democrats learn any lessons from this or will we see fucking Michelle Obama on the ticket in 2020?"

Over the next 2 years, they need to find a charismatic voice with little baggage. I have no idea who that is.

[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 8:43 AM. Reason : .]

11/9/2016 8:38:57 AM

So to be clear Shrike, your logic is Trump was going to win 100% no matter who the Dems ran?

11/9/2016 8:46:30 AM

No they need someone to state what the problem is. And it's that rich people have too much fucking money.

11/9/2016 8:50:10 AM

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"So to be clear Shrike, your logic is Trump was going to win 100% no matter who the Dems ran?"

Like I said, I question everything I believed about this election. I do think that the people who turned out and voted for Trump would have done so no matter who the Dems ran.

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"@AlbertSamaha 37m37 minutes ago "Clinton Won More Philadelphia Votes Than Obama In 2012, But Still Lost Pennsylvania""

More evidence that Hillary performed well in areas that Democrats typically perform well in, Trump just massively overperformed. The only outstanding question is where the overall drop in turnout came from. My guess is it's mostly from Democrats in rural/suburban white areas who just weren't motivated to vote for her.

[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 8:53 AM. Reason : read question wrong]

11/9/2016 8:51:16 AM

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"Isn't that what everyone believed, uh ..... 12 hours ago?"

Wtf? No dude.

Goddamn the Dems will never change.

11/9/2016 8:56:53 AM

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"Like I said, I question everything I believed about this election. I do think that the people who turned out and voted for Trump would have done so no matter who the Dems ran. "

I think that is mostly true but she lost a lot of independent voters to no votes that could have gone democrat had they put anyone else up there. Same could be said about Trump as well though I guess.

11/9/2016 9:07:48 AM

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"Like I said, I question everything I believed about this election."

This is how every republican felt when he won the nomination. It sucks. Bring it in for a hug. We'll be ok.

11/9/2016 9:23:59 AM

I'm sure the full on assault of anyone concerned over illegal immigration or jobs in this country as being a "basket of deplorables" racist zenophobe didnt help any. Watching democrats incite violence at Trump rallies only to find out that the DNC was actively organizing the violence REALLY didn't help either. The DNC may have done just as much to get Trump elected as Trump did. I have trouble believing Sanders would have made these same mistakes.

11/9/2016 9:27:03 AM

all hillary had was the black vote. hispanic women in Florida voted for trump in large numbers.

11/9/2016 9:45:22 AM

Economic resentment, eh?

11/9/2016 9:49:52 AM

How are people 100% sure it is over? She is going to win Minnesota and NH. Only 95% have counted in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania? I mean it is unlikely but still.

11/9/2016 9:55:26 AM

Hillary performed lower than Obama with every minority group and women. 70% of Trump voters said that his treatment of women bothered them. This wasn't about racism or misogyny. It was about lesser of two evils logic. The race to the bottom eventually gets you to the bottom.

11/9/2016 9:59:22 AM

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[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 10:10 AM. Reason : old, will wait for surveys from actual voters]

11/9/2016 10:09:15 AM

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" Over the next 2 years, they need to find a charismatic voice with little baggage. I have no idea who that is. "

Booker

11/9/2016 10:18:32 AM