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Stop assuming "democrats" and "leftists" mean the same thing. Then it will make sense. Sure theres some overlap, but the typical democrat is not a "leftist" even though almost all of them identify as "progressive".

12/19/2019 4:36:27 PM

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Yang’s best performance so far

12/19/2019 8:14:29 PM

horosho
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inb4 Yang is labeled a Russian for his impeachment response.

12/19/2019 8:15:04 PM

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[Edited on December 19, 2019 at 8:38 PM. Reason : nvm ima stop]

12/19/2019 8:35:50 PM

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Yang needs to interject more, so does Amy.

12/19/2019 9:29:09 PM

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Debates need competent moderators. Stop letting Pete always get the last word and go back and forth for the entire debate.

[Edited on December 19, 2019 at 9:45 PM. Reason : the questions are all trap questions for warren and bernie. "why should millionaires get free school]

12/19/2019 9:44:30 PM

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The other candidates need to just be better. If peter is able to muscle his way in that’s a demonstration of competency

12/19/2019 9:46:13 PM

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they are literally asking questions straight from his ads.

12/19/2019 9:47:00 PM

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I haven't heard this many old white people arguing with each other since ___________

12/19/2019 10:13:17 PM

horosho
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Yesterday?

12/19/2019 10:13:44 PM

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Quote :
"The other candidates need to just be better. If peter is able to muscle his way in that’s a demonstration of competency"


is it really though?? in your own professional life, do you find the people who butt in and talk over others the most competent?

[Edited on December 19, 2019 at 10:16 PM. Reason : would like to hear more from Yang regardless, but an extra 5 minutes ain't squat.]

12/19/2019 10:15:18 PM

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"hey guys we're almost out of time so let me end this productive debate about healthcare policy and move to a completely pointless game to waste the little time we do have left. "

[Edited on December 19, 2019 at 10:18 PM. Reason : the media is the worst]

[Edited on December 19, 2019 at 10:21 PM. Reason : ^It takes yang 3 debates to speak as long as Pete did tonight]

12/19/2019 10:17:53 PM

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^^

They are rarely the most competent I guess but they are the people who get selected for leadership and management positions very often. The squeaky wheel gets the grease as they say

12/19/2019 10:21:17 PM

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Yang focusing on rising depression and suicide juxtaposed against stable economic metrics is a good strategy.

12/19/2019 10:31:28 PM

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I have an anger meter that seems to explode after every debate and it makes me ready to move out of this god forsaken country. They asked the most rigged, bogus questions and set traps that made it impossible for Bernie to respond. They asked questions directly from Pete's ads and questions about identity politics. They directly asked Pete questions that apply directly to his campaign (easy to answer) and then asked bernie impossible trash like 'so obama says old white men are keeping women out of power, what do you have to say about that? '

Then they come out after the debate with pundits talking about how unprepared bernie was.

What really makes me mad is how well-meaning moderate liberals see this and yet they are silent across the board. I would feel a lot better if they just fessed up and said ,"i like biden but have to admit the whole system is against bernie" .Instead, they bury their heads in the sand and let the media get away with this bullshit. Or worse, they decide to gaslight the left as being paranoid about media conspiracy all while completely ignoring their stake in the profits ripping off the working class.

Then they act puzzled when Trump dominates them in the same game. I'm just about done with the whole thing. Then its just a matter of finding a Scandanavian or Oceanianic country to live out the rest of the life life in a healthy environment.

12/20/2019 12:03:13 AM

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For the January 14th debate, Big 4(Biden, Sanders, Warren, Pete) are already qualified. Amy's surprisingly qualified as well. Yang and Steyer are still struggling. Only 3.5 weeks left, and less than 2 weeks after the new year begins. So pretty urgent already.

12/20/2019 4:20:37 PM

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Side note. Yang had an after debate party on the of my building and they were chanting late into the night. I'm not mad but just confused about why they were so celebratory.

12/21/2019 12:59:06 PM

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he had a good night. once again, he said the most with least amount of time given. the establishment media might still not take him seriously, but the American people are hearing his message and it's resonating



[Edited on December 21, 2019 at 2:25 PM. Reason : fwiw Pete had the highest favorability bump (+3.3) after the 5th debate and saw a 3-4% bump. ]

12/21/2019 2:14:38 PM

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Snl biased against the little guy Tom steyer

12/22/2019 11:14:21 AM

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weird that horosho isn't blasting SNL for that

12/23/2019 8:26:59 AM

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/475576-obama-talks-up-warren-behind-closed-doors-to-wealthy-donors?amp

12/23/2019 8:45:50 AM

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That's great. Hopefully he expands his efforts to some state races as well since he dropped the ball pretty badly there during his presidency.

12/23/2019 11:46:27 AM

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Why is it weird? I don't watch SNL unless someone sends a link or mention. I see they managed to work in Kamala. Nothing comes close to how bad . they did AOC. Good thing liberals can't be sexist or racist.

12/23/2019 12:57:45 PM

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Finally got around to watching the PBS debate. A few reactions:

Both the moderators and the analysts who spoke during breaks are so afraid of Warren and Sanders. They praised Klobuchar and Buttigieg for the same things they bashed these two for (ways they answer questions, ways they interact with each other, etc). They do not want anyone to see them favorably and the bias is gross...and no different than any other debate so far this primary season.

I don't dislike Tom Steyer, even though I thought I would. I thought he did well and stayed grounded despite his great personal wealth. I don't want him to be president, and I don't like how he bought his way into the field, but I'm glad he's on our side and he seems like a very intelligent and supportive individual.

I don't understand how you can confuse Tom Steyer and Andrew Yang. That was ridiculous.

Klobuchar is just making things up about the midwest. Minnesota is not representative of the rest of the region, nor is it as much a flyover as Iowa, Nebraska the Dakotas, etc. Minneapolis/St Paul is the 16th largest metro population in the country and Minnesota has double digit electoral votes. She also said Minnesota was Hillary's smallest margin of victory...it was second smallest, which at first seems not like a big deal, but her margin % was nearly five times that of her margin in New Hampshire, and her popular vote margin in Minnesota was twice that of Nevada and Maine.

Side thought...Trump won four states by a smaller % margin, representing 75 electoral votes. , than Hillary won in Minnesota. That's just how ridiculous that election was, and why the Democrats need to get out of the panic mode they've been in since then and start reconnecting with real people.

Other than Buttigieg's clash with Warren, this was the most respect I've seen the candidates show each other...except also Klobuchar's strange way of making everything sound like a snide backhanded compliment. "Well, my colleagues may disagree, but in Minnesota...(insert statement that is almost an exact rehashing of something someone else already said)."

12/24/2019 1:54:07 AM

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what the actual fuck

https://theintercept.com/2019/12/24/mike-bloomberg-2020-prison-labor/

[Edited on December 24, 2019 at 1:03 PM. Reason : ]

12/24/2019 1:02:45 PM

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https://twitter.com/schwartzbCNBC/status/1210599494976450565

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"Elizabeth Warren's campaign sounds the alarm as fundraising pace slows about 30% in fourth quarter. The campaign told supporters in an email that, so far, they've only raised just over $17 million in Q4"


looks like Yang is on track to be the only candidate who grew their donations every quarter in 2019. he may even end up outpacing Warren's total in Q4.

[Edited on December 27, 2019 at 1:09 PM. Reason : really looking forward to seeing the year end FEC reports]

12/27/2019 12:30:24 PM

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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/democrats-need-to-accept-these-3-truths-to-beat-trump-in-2020.html

hmmm...

12/28/2019 6:15:24 AM

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^I don't accept the premise for any of those three. The author of the article seems to have confused internet mouthpieces with the candidates themselves. Other than the one example listed from Pete, I don't think any of these candidates have those issues.

12/28/2019 9:29:38 AM

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The Warren's dad janitor vs maintenance story is dumb

12/28/2019 10:11:22 AM

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is it a story anywhere other than Fox News?

I’ve only seen the screengrab from one of their shows

12/28/2019 10:49:55 AM

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"Which Democratic voters are potentially the most disloyal? Here's the percentage of each candidate's base who say they'll vote Dem in the 2020 general:

Warren: 97
Steyer: 96
Biden: 94
Klobuchar: 93
Buttigieg: 92
Sanders: 87
Bloomberg: 82
Booker: 80
Yang: 73
...
Gabbard: 15"

12/28/2019 12:59:36 PM

horosho
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So basically a list of who panders the most.

12/28/2019 2:50:42 PM

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galaxy brain take

12/28/2019 3:48:35 PM

horosho
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/joe-biden-says-hed-be-open-to-picking-a-republican-running-mate
How dumb is the typical democrat?

[Edited on December 30, 2019 at 10:41 PM. Reason : lets just be frank]

12/30/2019 10:41:25 PM

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Kind of fascinating how durable Biden’s lead is

The wine cave thing hurts Pete, but Biden can slur like he’s always drunk and nothing happens.

If we have a minimum voting age we should have a maximum voting age...

12/30/2019 10:45:24 PM

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Biden's durability feels very familiar...

12/30/2019 11:28:42 PM

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Seriously. Its like we need someone young and fresh like Obama 2008 to get ppl excited

12/30/2019 11:51:45 PM

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buttigieg got bodied by ted cruz on twitter yesterday, buttigieg really needs some big help on anything race-related

12/31/2019 3:29:56 PM

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Biden is trading on name recognition. He's a familiar brand. His durability isn't surprising or conspiratorial.

12/31/2019 4:07:59 PM

moron
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^^ it was an old video of Pete to be fair.

I’m sure he knows there were many prominent abolitionists when the country was founded, he was just doing the centrist thing by trying to bring people together with a pleasant fiction.

12/31/2019 4:57:00 PM

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Q4 fundraising numbers released for Buttigieg - $24.7M from 326k donors. 733k total donors on the year

1/1/2020 9:00:39 AM

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"ANDREW YANG, PETE BUTTIGIEG END 2019 WITH BIG FUNDRAISING SPIKES HEADING INTO PRIMARY VOTING"

1/1/2020 8:02:09 PM

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Castro has officially dropped out

Fundraising summary so far

Sanders $34.5M (vs $25.3M Q3, +36%)
Buttigieg $24.7M (vs $19.1M Q3, +29%)
Biden not yet reported, but projected over $20M (vs $15.2M Q3, +40% at least)
Warren not yet reported, but projected ~20M (vs $24.6M Q3, -19%)
Yang $16.5M (vs $10M Q3, +65%)
Booker not yet reported, but projected ~$5M (vs $6M Q3)
Klobuchar not yet reported, but projects ~$5M (vs $4.8M Q3)
Tulsi $3.4M (vs $3M Q3, +13%)



[Edited on January 2, 2020 at 9:58 AM. Reason : and Trump raised $46M]

1/2/2020 9:15:52 AM

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Wow massive number for Bernie.

1/2/2020 10:00:48 AM

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Castro's run probably improved his reputation, i bet we see more from him throughout the election and I wouldn't be surprised if he made another run in the future

1/2/2020 10:13:44 AM

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Yes, we will see him again in 2024. He's a big competitor of Ted Cruz by then.

1/2/2020 10:17:18 AM

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Some fundraising context from Q4 2015

Hillary Clinton: $38.1M
Bernie Sanders: $33.6M

Ben Carson: $22.6M
Ted Cruz: $20.5M
Marco Rubio: $14.2M
Donald Trump: $13.6M
Jeb Bush: $7.1M
John Kasich: $3.2M
Chris Christie: $3.0M
Carly Fiorina: $2.9M


[Edited on January 2, 2020 at 1:08 PM. Reason : so Castro v Cruz for Senate in 2024??]

1/2/2020 1:06:17 PM

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If Biden wins the nomination and presidency, I think he'll run on a one term promise, so 2024 should be wide open

1/2/2020 1:08:14 PM

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it's insane that he said that out loud and that it wasn't a major story and big deal

1/2/2020 1:20:29 PM

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Biden's Q4 numbers have arrived - $22.7M

[Edited on January 2, 2020 at 2:16 PM. Reason : .]

1/2/2020 2:14:21 PM

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