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JayMCnasty
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No, I am asking if you are implying that Trump is a predator

10/16/2017 2:04:50 PM

Bullet
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isn't the audio of himself bragging about it "proof"?

[Edited on October 16, 2017 at 2:05 PM. Reason : ]

10/16/2017 2:05:25 PM

JayMCnasty
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The grab em by the pussy thing?

10/16/2017 2:06:35 PM

Bullet
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Yes, he said that, among other things

10/16/2017 2:07:05 PM

ncsuapex
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The same audio clip provided proof of consent. But most of you morons skip right past that.

10/16/2017 2:08:21 PM

JayMCnasty
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So saying when you are rich and famous you can literally grab women by the pussy 100 percent makes him a predator? Even if the women willingly let/want you to grab them by said pussy?

10/16/2017 2:08:39 PM

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10/16/2017 2:09:16 PM

dtownral
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Quote :
"No, I am asking if you are implying that Trump is a predator"

lots of allegations made against trump too

here are just a few:
http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497799354/a-list-of-donald-trumps-accusers-of-inappropriate-sexual-conduct

and also in addition to the pussy tape, he has walked into dressing rooms for his pageant, thrust his genitals at and tried to pull an apprentice contestant into his hotel room, pushed against a wall and forcibly kissed a writer for people, tried to put his hand up the skirt of a woman on a plane, etc...

10/16/2017 2:37:19 PM

rjrumfel
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To think that Trump has never forced himself upon a women is about as naive as thinking the Clintons were completely oblivious to Weinsten's problems.

10/16/2017 2:41:34 PM

JayMCnasty
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"To think that Trump has never forced himself upon a women is about as naive as thinking the Clintons were completely oblivious to Weinsten's problems."




I agree with that completely.

10/16/2017 2:47:27 PM

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"The same audio clip provided proof of consent. "


No, it did not. Trump CLAIMING they gave consent is actually quite different from the lady herself giving consent.

But I wouldn't expect a moron like you to understand that distinction.

10/16/2017 3:22:43 PM

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10/16/2017 4:13:14 PM

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10/16/2017 4:42:40 PM

tulsigabbard
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the problem is that the claim the moral highground is the entirety of the democratic party's existence.

republicans dont champion themselves as feminists so the equivalence favors them

10/16/2017 6:39:59 PM

dtownral
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one person is not a politician just someone who donates money who most voters didn't know a thing about. the other person is the fucking president, who voters knew about

jesus christ i got earl'd

10/16/2017 6:57:59 PM

Cabbage
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^^No, Republicans champion themselves as Christians and claim the moral high ground as such. It baffles me that you somehow missed this.

10/16/2017 7:00:00 PM

rjrumfel
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^

10/16/2017 7:06:15 PM

TreeTwista10
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If this discussion devolves even further into questions about Trump's penis and specifically the size, I believe NyM410 is the resident expert all things Trump's-penis-related

10/16/2017 8:55:38 PM

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its indicitive of how liberals have hikacked every movement with their facade. poc lgtq women healthcare poverty etc. all fake.

10/17/2017 1:13:42 AM

dtownral
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sad!

10/17/2017 8:53:03 AM

NyM410
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^^^ figuratively of course

[Edited on October 17, 2017 at 11:39 AM. Reason : I don’t even know who Earl is trolling anymore]

10/17/2017 11:38:34 AM

tulsigabbard
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because you never considered the fact that im not trolling and not earl

10/17/2017 12:09:25 PM

NCSUGimp
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ok Earl

10/17/2017 2:27:16 PM

ncsuapex
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"Republicans champion themselves as Christians and claim the moral high ground as such."


And the dems champion themselves as saviors of the poor.

10/17/2017 8:10:49 PM

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"The same audio clip provided proof of consent. But most of you morons skip right past that."


This is the same "consent" that Weinstein got from the women he harassed.

10/17/2017 8:12:49 PM

ncsuapex
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Got proof of that?

10/17/2017 8:13:35 PM

AndyMac
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Trump's words from his own mouth. "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything"

Powerful old rich dudes getting off on exerting their power over women who aren't able to do anything about it.

[Edited on October 17, 2017 at 8:20 PM. Reason : It's probably not even about sex most of the time. Just control.]

10/17/2017 8:19:45 PM

ncsuapex
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"they let you do it."


I know comprehension is hard for you.

10/17/2017 8:21:49 PM

AndyMac
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You seem to be under the impression that if a woman isn't beating you with her purse while you grope her then it's totally appropriate.

10/17/2017 8:24:22 PM

ncsuapex
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I know comprehension is hard for you.

10/17/2017 8:25:29 PM

AndyMac
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You having a stroke? Early onset Alzheimer's? You just posted the same thing. Gonna be alright bud?

10/17/2017 8:27:34 PM

ncsuapex
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I know comprehension is hard for you.

10/17/2017 8:29:09 PM

AndyMac
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Somebody call the amber lamps

10/17/2017 8:29:48 PM

NyM410
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If he actually randomly grabbed women by the pussy that is absolutely sexual assault. I took the they let you do it as meaning they don’t press charges not they gave consent.

But Trump was lying I’m sure even on the hot mic because that is what he does.

10/17/2017 8:51:16 PM

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10/17/2017 8:55:52 PM

TreeTwista10
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Trump probably just dropped his drawers and showed the ladies his giant penis

10/17/2017 9:12:40 PM

Cabbage
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^^Exactly how gullible are you? I mean, if one man punches another man and later he claims, "He was asking for it" do you...actually believe he was literally asking for it?

Just curious.

10/17/2017 10:06:17 PM

jaZon
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Christ, this guy has been raping more women on a monthly basis than the sum total of all women to ever slum it enough to sleep with me willingly

10/19/2017 9:24:40 PM

tulsigabbard
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Cmon guys, you know "they let you do it" means that they do not say "stop" or "no" and even if its not how we like it, the social norm is that the guy makes moves until the woman says "no" or "stop". It also means that these women continued to associate with Trump after he grabbed them. They did nothing to indicate that what Trump did was wrong and disgusting. In fact, beautiful, young women flock to men like Trump and put up with these type of antics to see what they can get. Its quid pro quo.

This is why men behave this way. They literally don't know its wrong. There are also women who will say things like "He was too scared to make a move" and "I'm still waiting for him to make the first move" and "I wonder why he didn't kiss me the other night" and "I want an assertive man who takes control"

Pussy is more powerful than money, but its supply happens to be in abundance and evenly distributed. Pussy controls everything and men are going to keep behaving the same way as long as it gets them pussy. If a behaviour prevents men from getting pussy, guess what? They won't do it anymore.

And yes, its unfortunate that all women have to deal with the societal norms that are made by a portion of men and women but that doesn't mean we need to beat around the bush or live in denial.

10/19/2017 9:48:02 PM

dtownral
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you sound like someone who always gets friendzoned

[Edited on October 20, 2017 at 8:11 AM. Reason : ']

10/20/2017 8:11:09 AM

tulsigabbard
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the term friendzone is sexist in itself. i appreciate female friends.

my problem is with those who have no interest in beimg friends ans use their sex as an asset to get in and get what they want and just leapfrog their way through hollywood

10/20/2017 10:52:43 AM

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Yeah you can tell this happens all the time based on how many powerful women movie stars there are compared to men. And don't get me started on the lack of leading roles in big movies for men in blockbusters! And then there are those big action tentpole movies where there are only one or two token men on the team.

Surely men have it hard in Hollywood without those tits that make everything so easy.

[Edited on October 20, 2017 at 11:06 AM. Reason : /s]

10/20/2017 11:06:11 AM

dtownral
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my takeaway from the last few posts is that if earl could suck a dick to get what he wanted, he would be happy to suck some dicks

10/20/2017 11:08:26 AM

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thats the point though. the system of femal oppression is perpetuated by the simple fact that men rather get pussy than do their job cprrectly or anything else. if women were in charge of everything, it would be different but they arent

the women dont even have to get anything tangible out of what im talking about. im not talking about stars. i dont know any stars in this way. im talking about women 18-25 who are good looking and doing whatever they can to survive and tey to breakthrough in the business. its often sex for a chance to meet someone, a chance at an audition, an invitation to aparty where insiders will be, or even a place to sleep that night. like i said, this type of pussy is in such high supply that it has little value which leads to the oppression of all women

[Edited on October 20, 2017 at 11:17 AM. Reason : k]

[Edited on October 20, 2017 at 11:18 AM. Reason : k]

10/20/2017 11:15:51 AM

dtownral
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i'm curious if you realize you are blaming the victims

10/20/2017 11:20:12 AM

tulsigabbard
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I was aware you would say that because you haven't demonstrated any ability to process nuance in other threads. Your build only seems to be able to process in binary. To you, everyone is either a victim blamer or only talks about how bad the scapegoat is, believes everything the police say without question or is a wild conspiracy theorist etc.

The women I'm talking about aren't even victims in the situations I'm describing. I'm talking about the underlying societal norms that perpetuate the environment for this type of crime. (The environment Trump was describing on the bus) You can direct 100% of the blame to Harvey Weinstein, but there will continue to be millions of Harvey Weinsteins, or you can discuss some of the underlying societal issues. You don't have to agree with me, but to try to turn it into "victim blaming" is lazy at best.

[Edited on October 20, 2017 at 11:57 AM. Reason : vegas thread]

10/20/2017 11:56:14 AM

dtownral
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you literally just described again how victims create the predators

10/20/2017 12:06:56 PM

Doss2k
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The problem is that some girls are victims and some know what they are doing and are fine with it and men in power like that aren't always willing to differentiate between the two so to them the victims should be the same as the other girls. Acting like there aren't tons of girls out there perfectly willing to suck a dick to get ahead would be naive but acting like all girls should be willing to do that as if thats the norm is where the problems come in.

It is like any other argument... all guys aren't predatory assholes and all girls aren't innocent victims who weren't willing to use sex as a bargaining chip.

10/20/2017 12:35:36 PM

AndyMac
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The fact that sucking a dick will get you ahead is a problem in itself, and the fault doesn't like with the people doing the sucking.

10/20/2017 12:45:52 PM

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It's sounding mighty rapey in this thread...

10/20/2017 12:50:06 PM

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