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qntmfred
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what's your hypothesis

[Edited on May 12, 2021 at 12:57 PM. Reason : also, that's not how you use the word literally]

5/12/2021 12:57:20 PM

FroshKiller
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I think you're a sucker in deep for a cult of personality who doesn't see the limits of one big idea.

5/12/2021 2:26:33 PM

qntmfred
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yeah that's about what I figured you'd think.

5/12/2021 2:39:49 PM

PaulISdead
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Is this cat trying to run for they mayor of ny or something?

5/16/2021 7:37:59 AM

FroshKiller
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Yeah, a lobbying firm run by one of Bloomberg's minions is running his campaign so (on the off chance he wins) he'll scratch their backs. But it's probably not a sincere campaign, just a high-profile one to keep Yang in the public's mind until he can try for President again.

5/16/2021 8:16:35 PM

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Harris&Yang 2024!

5/16/2021 8:37:43 PM

PaulISdead
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Biden dropping out to run for mayor of jewtropolis?

5/16/2021 8:54:34 PM

qntmfred
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the consulting group that Yang is working with has published this on how they would engage with a hypothetical Yang administration

https://bradleytusk.medium.com/should-we-win-58c2353648c

I'm sure many cynics will dismiss such statements, but at least they're being open and direct about it, and if they fuck up, there's a public record of their commitment to call them out by.

"lobbyist" is a dirty word, and understandably so. but the reality is that people who want to make a career out of their interests in effecting political change often end up working in these kinds of consulting organizations. All the other top candidates in the NYC race also have hired consulting teams, cus that's where the experience and talent is. Grassroots efforts either grow and scale into professional organizations, or they remain amateurs who may not be as effective in accomplishing their goals.

5/17/2021 10:09:22 AM

FroshKiller
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Nothing says "grassroots" like venture capital!

5/17/2021 10:42:22 AM

qntmfred
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I understand your skepticism. But Yang also has more donors (in NYC and overall) than every other candidate, certainly that counts as grassroots.

5/17/2021 11:00:47 AM

FroshKiller
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And what proportion of them actually live in the city compared to those of the other candidates?

5/17/2021 11:41:13 AM

justinh524
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I still find it hilarious that he's running for an office he's never even voted for before.

5/17/2021 11:54:07 AM

qntmfred
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^^ you'd expect that proportion to be skewed considering the other candidates have not had a national presence. doesn't change the fact that he still has the most support in NYC.

https://www.thecity.nyc/2021/5/11/22431629/andrew-yang-campaign-donors-outside-nyc

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"Nearly 58% of 15,000 contributors to Yang’s campaign reside outside the five boroughs, the latest campaign finance records show. Most of Yang’s remote supporters live nearby: Seven out of ten ZIP codes that gave the most money to Yang campaign are in New Jersey or Westchester County, an analysis by THE CITY found.

“It’s not a surprise that Yang has lots of outside money, considering he ran for the presidency, and he doesn’t necessarily have a longstanding base in New York,” said Christina Greer, a political scientist at Fordham University. “What you really need to do is make sure that that money translates into voters.”

Still, Yang’s campaign also has received more contributions from New York City residents than any other candidate in the race, as of March 11."


^ it is funny in a way, I agree. By the polls it seems most people don't seem to think that's of concern though. Says a lot that the longtime NYC politicians who did things the "right way" are behind him in the polls.

fwiw, I take no joy in being the perpetual Yang apologist in this thread. I do hope he wins, and I hope he does well as Mayor, and if he one day decides to run for President again, I hope that he has accomplished a lot for the people of NYC such that I can eagerly support him for President again too. I am not blind to his weaknesses as a candidate, or as a person. I call him out when I disagree with him. But a lot of the hate he gets is just silly. But I've got 20 years of experience watching people show their foolishness on this site, so from now on I think I'll just do what I mostly do for the rest of the foolishness I see on here - ignore it and mind my own business.

[Edited on May 17, 2021 at 12:13 PM. Reason : ]

5/17/2021 12:02:16 PM

thegoodlife3
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http://twitter.com/david_j_roth/status/1395422682687152131

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" My analysis is that this doofus would still be winning if all he did was like stand outside the Empire State Building and say "the Empire State Building, I love it!" It's really the knowing anything/having ideas stuff that's tripped him up. https://t.co/VwCB91Ekle"


this absolutely nails it

5/20/2021 1:09:57 PM

justinh524
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Maybe big tech brain guy should stick to big tech

5/20/2021 1:17:11 PM

Rem Lezar
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Elon Musk has more money. He could give us all 2000 dollars

5/21/2021 7:15:47 AM

shoot
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If he gives you dogecoin, how would you spend it?

5/21/2021 9:19:11 AM

Rem Lezar
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I would use it to buy some things for my boat

5/21/2021 11:17:39 AM

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https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1395735988585082880?s=19
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"Quite the paid-for disclaimer on the first Andrew Yang super PAC. Three Republican megadonors:

Jeff Yass
Kenneth Griffin
Daniel Loeb"


Seems bad imo

5/21/2021 12:32:36 PM

Kickstand
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A good campaign slogan would be I promise not to fuck up as bad as Cuomo.

Are New Yorkers going to get universal basic income in dogecoin?

5/21/2021 12:36:30 PM

thegoodlife3
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https://tv.avclub.com/dear-god-andrew-yangs-face-when-ziwe-asked-him-to-name-1846948546

normal dude who says he’s a big Jay-z fan

[Edited on May 22, 2021 at 4:49 PM. Reason : .]

5/22/2021 4:48:50 PM

rwoody
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The clip cuts off so quick I wonder if the stumble is it and he gets it after

Takes a lot of confidence to go on that show

5/22/2021 6:33:19 PM

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she was clearly going after him. interrupting his answers.

5/23/2021 11:45:48 AM

rwoody
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I mean that's what she does. That's the show

5/23/2021 1:03:33 PM

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I listen to some jayz and if you asked me my favorite song I probably couldn’t say without looking at my phone to see a list.

5/23/2021 9:33:40 PM

fatcatt316
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They cut off right before he said

Compared to me Jay-Z is lazy
Plus Beyonce thinks that I'm cute
It's okay Beyonce
I think you're cute too

5/24/2021 6:40:21 AM

rwoody
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Yep I was right in a way in this case
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"My favorite Jay-Z song, revealed.

Catch me on @ziwe tonight at 11pm. @Showtime https://t.co/WqWKHdD5JY "

5/24/2021 11:16:55 AM

thegoodlife3
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got a chuckle over them using the Linkin Park version

5/24/2021 11:46:56 AM

rwoody
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Yea i did too, I wonder which version he likes.

5/24/2021 11:56:39 AM

Kickstand
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He probably wanted to say Big Pimpin', but realized it was a little unprofessional and got flustered for a second.

5/24/2021 12:08:31 PM

thegoodlife3
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there is nothing unprofessional about saying Big Pimpin

if he started to rap the lyrics to Big Pimpin, that’d be pretty unprofessional

[Edited on May 24, 2021 at 1:08 PM. Reason : .]

5/24/2021 1:00:17 PM

Pupils DiL8t
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The obviously politically savvy answer would have been "Empire State of Mind."

5/24/2021 1:03:59 PM

thegoodlife3
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ding ding ding

5/24/2021 1:05:33 PM

Bullet
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Hmmm, Big Pimpin doesn't seem to jive with the whole MeToo movement. I'd be curious to know why it's professional.

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"
You know I thug 'em, fuck 'em, love 'em, leave 'em
'Cause I don't fuckin' need 'em
Take 'em out the hood, keep 'em lookin' good
But I don't fuckin' feed 'em
First time they fuss I'm breezin'
Talkin' bout, "What's the reasons?"
I'm a pimp in every sense of the word, bitch
Better trust than believe 'em
In the cut where I keep 'em
'Til I need a nut, 'til I need to beat the guts
Then it's, beep beep and I'm pickin' 'em up
Let 'em play with the dick in the truck
Many chicks want to put Jigga fist in cuffs
Divorce him and split his bucks
Just be'cause you got good head, I'm a break bread
So you can be livin' it up? Shit I
Parts with nothin', y'all be frontin'
Me give my heart to a woman?
Not for nothin', never happen
I'll be forever mackin'
Heart cold as assassins, I got no passion
I got no patience
And I hate waitin'
Hoe get yo' ass in
And let's ride, check 'em out now
Ride, yeah
And let's ride check 'em out now
Ride, yeah"

5/24/2021 1:10:23 PM

thegoodlife3
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what does any of that have to do with the MeToo movement?

there’s nothing there to imply that none of what he’s rapping about isn’t consensual

also, later in the song, Bun B is a strong advocate for literacy, which is an objectively great thing

5/24/2021 1:19:41 PM

Bullet
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Maybe MeToo was the wrong reference. I just thought calling women bitches and hoes and treating them as objects for sex was frowned upon more these days.

[Edited on May 24, 2021 at 1:29 PM. Reason : ]

5/24/2021 1:29:11 PM

FroshKiller
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"These days." Go get hit by a fucking truck, Bullet.

5/24/2021 1:30:40 PM

FroshKiller
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Because you're done, B, you're washed up.

5/24/2021 1:31:05 PM

thegoodlife3
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would it be unprofessional for a political candidate running in a red state to say that “Folsom Prison Blues” is their favorite Johnny Cash song?

5/24/2021 1:31:43 PM

Bullet
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LolFroshKiller, doesn't throw around the word "faggot" as much these days as he used to. But he still loves to act tough on the internet.

5/24/2021 1:38:29 PM

Kickstand
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What is my favorite Jay-Z song?... starts singing Alicia Keys In New York Concrete jungle where dreams are made of There's nothin' you can't do Now you're in New York

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"would it be unprofessional for a political candidate running in a red state to say that “Folsom Prison Blues” is their favorite Johnny Cash song? "She Said Someday I'd Understand" is their favorite David Allan Coe song?"

5/24/2021 1:55:09 PM

rwoody
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ESOM would be the cheesiest politician answer

Im not sure big pimpin or ESOM (or Encore) would establish the bonafides of being a big Jay z fan.

5/24/2021 2:18:29 PM

thegoodlife3
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Empire would be extremely on brand for Yang, though

5/24/2021 2:49:54 PM

FroshKiller
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Then there is the correct answer, which is "Anything" or--if you are a person of discernment and taste--"'03 Bonnie & Clyde."

5/24/2021 5:48:38 PM

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Still behind Eric Adams by polling. Only two weeks to go to the voting. This is a crazy battle. qntmfred should have more inside details

6/7/2021 3:51:45 PM

MrGreen
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yang is a fucking clown

6/17/2021 9:09:35 AM

shoot
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Many politicians growing up in NY are clowns, like Bloomberg, Trump, etc.

[Edited on June 17, 2021 at 9:35 AM. Reason : Cuomo]

6/17/2021 9:34:47 AM

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