http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/sports/special_packages/marchmania/14249859.htm


BARNES NOT INTERESTED:

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"Texas' Rick Barnes of Hickory, one of the coaches atop N.C. State fans' wish list, told the Austin (Texas) American-Statesman on Sunday that he is not looking to leave Texas and is happy there. Barnes also said last month before facing N.C. State in the NCAA tournament in Dallas that he was not interested in coaching in the ACC. "I feel the same as I felt when I was asked that question in Dallas," Barnes said Sunday, according to the Austin paper's Web site. "I have one of the best jobs in the country. I've got no other thoughts about (N.C. State).""

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 8:30 AM. Reason : .]

well there you go

now its time for everyone to start comparing this to the royboy situation two years ago

NEVA EVA GIVE UP

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 8:31 AM. Reason : ]

4/3/2006 8:31:03 AM

no Chris Wright recruit either

4/3/2006 8:36:11 AM

i mean but seriously...i dont think well get him but that doesnt mean shit..."I dont give a shit about North Carolina right now"

4/3/2006 8:38:24 AM

Not to stoke the flames of speculation about Barnes or anything, but....

Didn't Roy Williams say something similar to that just prior to taking the UNC-Hell job?

4/3/2006 8:40:33 AM

Thats not even remotely similar.

4/3/2006 8:42:58 AM

wow, what shocking news

4/3/2006 8:58:23 AM

What about Pitino....hahaha....he has ties with the ACC

4/3/2006 9:02:46 AM

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"Didn't Roy Williams say something similar to that just prior to taking the UNC-Hell job?"

Yeah....minutes after losing the national championship game. BIG difference.

4/3/2006 9:04:26 AM

i thought he said it BEFORE the championship game...
and there were a few signs to that effect among the Kansas faithful at the game...

4/3/2006 9:10:04 AM

nope

said it during the post-game interview

4/3/2006 9:10:33 AM

suspend john kruk for his guarentee

4/3/2006 9:42:00 AM

not sure if this was posted or not

but i dont mind the prospect of the GM coach

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"INDIANAPOLIS -- Herb Sendek's decision to leave NC State for Arizona State didn't shock his new colleagues considering the way he had been treated by the Wolfpack faithful. The perception was that Sendek was being unfairly criticized despite coaching the Wolfpack to five straight NCAA Tournaments. He was in a no-win situation, since his personality is a bit vanilla at times compared to the star power of Duke's Mike Krzyzewski and North Carolina's Roy Williams. Still, NC State's loss of the cerebral Sendek will be Arizona State's gain, although it may take some time for him to get the Sun Devils moving again. "Herb has done a great job everywhere he's been," Arizona coach Lute Olson said. "[But] look at what UCLA will have back, SC [as well], and we'll have everyone back but Hassan Adams and Chris Rodgers. Depending on what happens at Cal [with Leon Powe's draft decision] they'll be tough, too. "The league is pretty strong top to bottom, so it might take him some time." As for NC State's next move, don't be surprised to see George Mason's Jim Larranaga mentioned. Larranaga is a hot commodity now and has strong ACC ties from his tenure as an assistant at Virginia. He loves Mason and the school will try to keep him from looking elsewhere, but it's hard to imagine him not listening to NC State if the Wolfpack called. Alumni Dereck Whittenburg and New Orleans' Monte Towe may also get calls. So, too, could Winthrop's Gregg Marshall. AD Lee Fowler is well connected, so expect this to be a thorough search. Two weeks ago, when Sendek's name surfaced on the rumor mill with Cincinnati, Sendek and Fowler both told ESPN.com about how Sendek was happy in Raleigh and how well the program was going. Talent remains and more is on the way, with the Wolfpack expected to be an upper-tier ACC team again. One name to cross off is Texas' Rick Barnes. He's not leaving Austin for Raleigh. He has a better job. Indiana's new coach, former Oklahoma coach Kelvin Sampson, probably would have been a top candidate had the Hoosiers not swooped in to grab him. There are plenty of mid-major coaches, like Wichita's Mark Turgeon, who would gladly run to State if Fowler called. Turgeon was in the mix at Arizona State earlier this week, but a source close to Turgeon said he withdrew his interest and was in talks with the Shockers to extend and beef up his deal there. "

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 9:51 AM. Reason : Katz insider ESPN blog]

4/3/2006 9:50:46 AM

That dude is like 80. I still want a somewhat young coach who is going to be here for a while.

4/3/2006 9:54:52 AM

wait, so you want a coach that's gonna stick around and develop a system over several years?

4/3/2006 9:57:54 AM

where on earth could we have found someone like that

4/3/2006 10:00:00 AM

lol

4/3/2006 10:01:28 AM

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"Ron Werner said his family was devastated by Sendek's decision. "We love Coach Sendek. We love his assistants. I just hope they bring in somebody similar," he said. "

dear god, i hope we don't get someone similar. i think herb was a smart basketball coach, and very smart in general, but right now we need someone with real fire and direction. i don't think i can stand watching basketball for 10 more years when your coach has his arms crossed showing no emotion when state is getting blown out by 20. let's offer barnes his own island on the outer banks.

4/3/2006 10:05:00 AM

i do think we need someone with charisma to come in, as long as they are a good coach. we need someone to unite the fanbase and gain everyone's support. i'm tired of this arguing about the coach shit.

4/3/2006 10:06:36 AM

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"wait, so you want a coach that's gonna stick around and develop a system over several years?"

No dumbass...where in the hell did you get that out of my post?? I want a big-name, somewhat young coach that will be with NC State for 15+ years and develop a Duke/UNC like program.

Not some dude who is going to be 70 in 8 years and ready to retire so we can start this shit all over again.

4/3/2006 10:07:57 AM

^ummm... maybe you should reread your post and that quote and try again

4/3/2006 10:09:52 AM

Actually you may want someone like that.

Take what Herb's done, stabilize it, and then when he retires we take another long look at the NCAA coaching field.

4/3/2006 10:10:52 AM

so we will give another coach 15+ years to develop into a national powerhouse

just not sendek

gotcha

^thats actually true. if you can get the program to the next level with someone for 5-10 years, the coaching pool once they go will be much bigger than it is now

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 10:11 AM. Reason : *]

4/3/2006 10:10:56 AM

that's just the thing. if someone comes in here and makes us better than we are now in <=5 years (i'm talkin consistant sweet 16 or better), why get rid of them?

4/3/2006 10:16:28 AM

not talking about getting rid of him

but if its an older coach, and they can do that for us, then the pool after he retires will be that much better

4/3/2006 10:17:37 AM

ok i can see that, but i'd rather just hire a younger guy unless the old guy was bobby knight or something lol.

4/3/2006 10:18:19 AM

I am putting my resume in for the head coaching position... here are my credentials

9-3 lifetime coaching record (15-17 boys basketball)

Reached championship game in first season (tournament experience)

Quality references (players, players parents, my mom)

Overall pissed off, firey coaching attitude on the court (chairs thrown = 1)

4/3/2006 10:20:03 AM

i think no matter who we get, we are in for a few years of true mediocrity (no ncaas, middle/bottom of the acc). the players we have now were picked for herbs offense, and came to state because they wanted to play in that kind of offense.

we simply arent equipped to play a more physical type of offense.


i hope to god im wrong, but i think for the next couple years, we are going to refer to the end of herb's tenure as the "good ol days" ...when we used to win.

4/3/2006 10:22:31 AM

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"so we will give another coach 15+ years to develop into a national powerhouse"

First of all...we are not a national powerhouse right now. The only time we were very a national powershouse was for a couple years in the mid-70s, and maybe for a few years in the 50s (which I hesitate to say because we didn't even when a National Championship).

Second, consistent coaching changes are not good. If you look at programs that are consistent national title contenders, you see coaches who have been there for a while (K, Izzo, Calhoun, Beheim, Roy when he was at Kansas).

I didn't say I wanted a coach who is going to take 15 years to build a national powerhouse. I want a coach who is going to stay here for 15 years to SUSTAIN a national powerhouse. It will no doubt take at least a couple of years to even think about building something that UNC and Duke has (it took them A LONG TIME to do it).

Ideally, I want a young, big-name coach (Barnes, Wright, Montgomery maybe) who will be here for 20 years. Longevity is KEY to being a national powerhouse.

4/3/2006 10:30:58 AM

our fan base wont go for longevity. along with longevity comes periods of down-time.

i think our fans have already shown that they cant and wont accept that.

4/3/2006 10:33:31 AM

i don't disagree that's a possibility sober, but parts of the texas game looked promising that we can play a more up and down style. with fells, costner, and grant given the way he played late, i think we can run well with these athletes, and a more conventional offense would allow ced to emerge as a true star. i'd be lying if i said that i wasn't worried how things are going to turn out, but i also think there's room to be optimistic.

4/3/2006 10:33:32 AM

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"It will no doubt take at least a couple of years to even think about building something that UNC and Duke has (it took them A LONG TIME to do it)."

yet we want it overnight.

Whoever this new coach is should be able to get this program to elite 8s consistently quickly. He is taking over a squeaky clean program that has great facilities, good talent, and apparently a legacy of greatness.

4/3/2006 10:35:39 AM

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"our fan base wont go for longevity. along with longevity comes periods of down-time."

I would hope that winning a championship of some kind would leave our fan base to tolerate longevity. If Herb had won an ACC championship a couple of years ago, then maybe our fans wouldn't be so irate...but I actually doubt that.

But a Final Four or NCAA championship should allow for longevity. I don't see GT fans calling for Paul Hewitt's head after his terrible season. And even though Maryland has missed the tourney 2 years in a row, most Maryland fans aren't dumb enough to want Gary fired (although there is a lunatic fringe).

4/3/2006 10:36:47 AM

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"Whoever this new coach is should be able to get this program to elite 8s consistently quickly. He is taking over a squeaky clean program that has great facilities, good talent, and apparently a legacy of greatness."

You guys are going to be in for a rude awakening.

4/3/2006 10:37:32 AM

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" I don't see GT fans calling for Paul Hewitt's head after his terrible season. And even though Maryland has missed the tourney 2 years in a row, most Maryland fans aren't dumb enough to want Gary fired (although there is a lunatic fringe)."

exactly my point. nc state fans arent the same. i would be willing to bet that had those same situations happened to us, the reaction wouldnt be the same. for some reason we think that we are owed a winning program.

4/3/2006 10:40:12 AM

I hope we go without a new coach for a month or two so this thread gets to 2583610948 pages

4/3/2006 10:41:32 AM

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"You guys are going to be in for a rude awakening."

Thats exactly my point. I didnt want Herb to leave because Im aware of how long it takes to build a Duke/UNC type of program, especially from where our shithole of a program was when Herb started.

But apparently getting a new coach will fix this immediately, and it should considering the condition of the program they are coming in to.

4/3/2006 10:41:44 AM

all i have to say is that if fowler values his life, he better not fuck this up. i can already envision NC State fans rioting outside his house with torches and a noose hanging from a tree.

4/3/2006 10:42:28 AM

^^^^Sad...but maybe true.

It pains me to say that we probably have the most irrational and delusional fans in the country.
Then you add that we're probably not the brightest...and you have a bad combination.

^^^My bad for misinterpreting. I wholeheartedly agree with you.



[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 10:44 AM. Reason : .]

4/3/2006 10:43:21 AM

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"all i have to say is that if fowler values his life, he better not fuck this up. i can already envision NC State fans rioting outside his house with torches and a noose hanging from a tree. "

That is because a large portion of our fanbase is annoying rednecks. Fowler doesn't have a chance. If we don't get a big name coach it won't be the more realistic reason that no big name coaches were available or wanted to come here, but rather they will just blame Fowler for 'fucking up their program.'

I hope we are able to lure a big name coach with a solid reputation but if not I'm not going to hold Fowler accountable. Two things need to happen for Fowler to lure a big namer.. a) that big namer has to be available and WILLING TO COME HERE and b) the WPC neeeds to pony up some cash to help pay. If either one of those doesn't happen then IMO we will be no better off and more likely worse off..

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 10:49 AM. Reason : f]

4/3/2006 10:49:04 AM

This is what everyone is seeing right now

4/3/2006 10:49:56 AM

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"I would hope that winning a championship of some kind would leave our fan base to tolerate longevity. If Herb had won an ACC championship a couple of years ago, then maybe our fans wouldn't be so irate...but I actually doubt that. "

What he said, except I dont doubt that we would be more tolerant. If you're gonna win an ACC championship every few years, its going to involve beating Duke and UNC on a consistent basis, so if we have one or two down years followed by a few championship level year, our fans could and would accept that.

4/3/2006 11:15:05 AM

Is anyone "IN" at scout.com to get this new article? Finding the Next Coach

4/3/2006 11:24:55 AM

^Yeah...it pretty much names every available coach.

It says our chances with Barnes, Few, and Jay Wright are slim to none. It says we would have a good chance with Calipari, Gillespie, Turgeon, Altman, Larranaga, Frank Haith (what???), Gregg Marshall, then it lists Sean Miller, Larry Harris and a bunch of former players.

It says we would have a slim to fair chance at with Beilein.

I'm torn on Calipari, but it seems he'd be the only big name coach we have a shot at. And I'm surprised it didn't mention Montgomery.

4/3/2006 11:32:22 AM

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"I don't see GT fans calling for Paul Hewitt's head after his terrible season. And even though Maryland has missed the tourney 2 years in a row, most Maryland fans aren't dumb enough to want Gary fired (although there is a lunatic fringe)."

Your forgetting one thing. Gary Willimas has won a national championship, and Paul Hewitt has gotten to the national championship game.

4/3/2006 11:35:41 AM

where is JT3bucky with more insider info??

4/3/2006 11:37:09 AM

^^actually he wasnt forgetting that. that was his point.

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 11:37 AM. Reason : *]

4/3/2006 11:37:39 AM

WHAT HAPPENED TO TUBBY SMITH?

4/3/2006 12:22:14 PM

not coming

[Edited on April 3, 2006 at 12:44 PM. Reason : ]

4/3/2006 12:44:24 PM

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"Wright said that though Sendek wasn't the sole reason for his commitment, he was a significant factor."

THAT SENDEK WAS USELESS!!!!

4/3/2006 1:07:49 PM

whoever we get, lets make sure they bring clown shoes, smoke and mirrors

4/3/2006 1:53:36 PM