dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
I get it. It’s part of why I don’t buy season tickets - I know going in that there will be at least 2 games where it’s suffocatingly hot and absolutely no fun to attend. I just don’t have a ton of sympathy for people that pay for their season tickets knowing there are always hot as fuck games in September that will be miserable to attend and then they get mad when it’s hot as fuck and the game starts at noon. Of course it’s miserably hot. Of course I wouldn’t take a kid to the game. The complaints about it just seem excessive at this point. But idk. Maybe I’m just an insensitive asshole. 9/9/2019 5:45:38 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27830 Posts user info edit post |
WHY IS THIS OUTDOOR EVENT IN THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES IN THE SUMMER SO HOT? I VOLUNTARILY PAID TO ATTEND THIS EVENT AND I DEMAND TO KNOW WHY IT IS SO HOT! 9/9/2019 6:17:57 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah. You’re are indeed being assholes. 9/9/2019 6:30:49 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I do though lol at the whiners who blame noon games on people leaving early. That shit happens no matter the time, unless it’s a great opponent. 9/9/2019 6:34:14 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
^^guess I’m just being an asshole about it and the fact that Justin agrees with me probably confirms that
I just don’t really get it. Who are we mad at? The athletic department for scheduling weaker opponent in the opening weeks? The TV networks? Do we just blindly cuss John Swofford because he’s clearly out to get us? I completely understand why people hate the noon kicks. I guess I just don’t really get why anybody’s surprised about noon kicks. 9/9/2019 6:39:25 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I’m not mad. Just annoyed lol. We’ve basically just been unlucky. Nothing nefarious is going on. 9/9/2019 6:58:14 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@brett_mcmurphy
Alabama not happy w/11 a.m. CT kickoff: “We are disappointed our game against Southern Miss has been selected as a daytime kickoff at home. We realize we’ve played more non-conference day games at home in September than any other SEC team since 2014”" |
Lol just saw this on twitter. Guess State fans aren’t the only ones9/9/2019 7:20:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
3:30pm kickoff games aren't really much different weather-wise. It's just hot as fuck during tailgating and kickoff and then starts to cool down, whereas noon games are nice for tailgating and get hot during the game. 9/9/2019 9:20:32 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27830 Posts user info edit post |
9/9/2019 9:47:50 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Got eeem 9/9/2019 10:20:49 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ my only preference for 3:30 over 12:00 is getting to sleep in. I think the point about tailgating temps is true but only applies to the first hour or so, by 10 it's hot. 9/10/2019 8:10:18 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, weather for 3:30 games isn't much different. I prefer the 3:30 time slot over noon because my kids play soccer and I'm on the soccer fields until 11:30 in Youngsville. That's a 'me' problem though. If it wasn't for that, I'd be out there as close to 8 as possible to tailgate. 9/10/2019 8:46:50 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
It could be sunny and 70 degrees with 0% humidity for a noon game and people would still be annoyed by it and the stands would still be half empty at the start of the 3rd quarter.
It's not the heat that people hate about noon games, it's the overall negative effect on tailgating and Saturday. People don't want to get up early, they don't want to start drinking at 8am every home game, and they don't want to always have to cook/eat breakfast at the tailgate. The crowd in the 3rd quarter isn't because it's 90 degrees, it's because the concessions are weak and the beer lines/prices aren't worth it when you can get a pass to go back and eat/drink whatever your already brought.
The only people really leaving games early because of the sun/heat are people with small children and older folks, and that isn't going to change whether the game is at 11, 12, or 3:30. If you have a night game you'll still have those same people leaving early. 9/10/2019 9:00:11 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27830 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The only people really leaving games early because of the sun/heat are people with small children and older folks, and that isn't going to change whether the game is at 11, 12, or 3:30. If you have a night game you'll still have those same people leaving early" |
Also the entire student section leaves by halftime and doesn't come back. Pretty much every game now, regardless of opponent/kickoff time.9/10/2019 9:56:04 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
3:30 games take all of your day. at least 6/7pm games you get your morning. 9/10/2019 10:16:01 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37676 Posts user info edit post |
We should just play on Fridays like Wake 9/10/2019 10:22:55 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27830 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "assuming you have friends" |
Yeah that would be a bad assumption to make 9/11/2019 6:08:59 PM |
Elwood All American 4084 Posts user info edit post |
WTH no game thread 9/14/2019 7:56:20 AM |
Elwood All American 4084 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 14, 2019 at 7:57 AM. Reason : GD]
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27830 Posts user info edit post |
Make one instead of complaining. It's not that hard. 9/14/2019 8:30:49 AM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
We seem to have a weak pass rush this year which is different than what we have come to expect the last few years. I guess too many young guys??? 9/14/2019 11:24:35 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37676 Posts user info edit post |
Not sure how our 3-3-5 d tracks to the 4 man line depth chart they release, but anyway both starting DE were hurt today 9/14/2019 11:51:04 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37676 Posts user info edit post |
JSW and bolo back on the chart. McCloud still maybe out 9/16/2019 7:53:24 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27830 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We seem to have a weak pass rush this year which is different than what we have come to expect the last few years. I guess too many young guys???" |
Yeah that happens when you routinely only rush 3 and when you do rush more than 3, the 4th is a linebacker giving up 75 pounds to an offensive tackle.9/16/2019 8:04:50 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Hey guys, headed to the mountains next week. need a streaming service that has the ACC network to watch the FSU game. What do you guys suggest? 9/17/2019 9:26:28 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
YouTube tv has been good for me. You can just do a 7 day free trial and cancel if you only need it for the weekend 9/17/2019 9:47:25 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
^perfect. Thats exactly what i need. 9/17/2019 10:00:57 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "3:30pm kickoff games aren't really much different weather-wise. It's just hot as fuck during tailgating and kickoff and then starts to cool down, whereas noon games are nice for tailgating and get hot during the game." |
The difference being that by mid-late September the angle of the sun is much lower, and thus less intense at 330pm, than it would be at noon (peak intensity).
I hate noon games for a variety of reasons, but most have already been stated. And IMO Doeren can cry about the empty stands after halftime, after we start winning more and play less (none?) noon games.
[Edited on September 17, 2019 at 10:17 AM. Reason : ]9/17/2019 10:17:17 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27830 Posts user info edit post |
LMAO you're a shitty fan. 9/17/2019 10:28:56 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And IMO Doeren can cry about the empty stands after halftime, after we start winning more and play less (none?) noon games." |
Lol at the ultimatum...DD can complain about the pass outs once we have 0 noon games...which is a thing he totally has control over
Also, “after we start winning more”? He’s won back to back 9 win seasons, back to back winning records in the acc...hadn’t been done in 25+ years at State . I’m not saying DD is a HOFer, but he’s winning games at a better clip than most of his predecessors9/17/2019 10:48:20 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37676 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't realize Stephen Griffin was ALSO out Saturday. Obviously there are some structural issues with the D, but hopefully if we get all 4 (or 3 depending how you classify Bole) starters back, then execution will improve. 9/19/2019 1:18:49 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
On how long it takes for Matthew McKay to develop trust with receivers
Quote : | "He threw a really good ball to Emeka in the game, and he ended up about 6 inches out of bounds on the catch. So, I think that trust is already there, we’ve just got to get the timing of those things. He did make a nice back-shoulder throw and catch in our opener to Emeka. I think that going with Devin [Carter], that’s what we’ve got to get so we’ve got it going on both sides of the field." |
This guy is so out of touch.9/19/2019 1:34:34 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
wat? 9/19/2019 2:36:24 PM |
MONGO All American 599 Posts user info edit post |
The Inside Pack Sports podcast had a point that most QBs struggle in their first P-5 away game... Thought I'd compile the full list below:
Philip Rivers - 31/52 for 401 yards, 5 TDs & 1 INT. NCSU 41 Indiana 38 Russell Wilson - 10/21 for 92 yards, 0 TDs & 1 INT. NCSU 9 Clemson 27 Mike Glennon - 24/41 for 315 yards, 3 TDs & 1 INT. NCSU 27 Wake Forest 34 Jacoby Brissett - 4/18 for 35 yards, 0 TDs & 0 INT. NCSU 0 Clemson 41 Ryan Finley - 20/40 for 231 yards, 0 TDs & 2 INTs. NCSU 17 Clemson 24 Matt McKay - 23/48 for 207 yards, 1 TD & 0 INT. NCSU 27 West Virginia 44
At this point, I'm more concerned about getting the defense healthy than Matt McKay's development. I was cautious how the transition away from Drink/Finley. Hard to really grade considering we've only played one game against a P5 opponent. SP+ still has us at 7-5 on the year, which is what I expected going into the season. 9/23/2019 10:15:54 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
QB play has left plenty to be desired. But yeah...I’m more concerned with defense at this point. 9/23/2019 10:25:19 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37676 Posts user info edit post |
Not sure 2010s clemson is a good comparison to this year's WVU team 9/23/2019 10:30:39 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
That Philip game was so good. 9/23/2019 10:37:24 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Russell Wilson - 10/21 for 92 yards, 0 TDs & 1 INT. NCSU 9 Clemson 27" |
*Two weeks after being carted off the field at USC with a grade 3 concussion9/23/2019 10:52:37 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27830 Posts user info edit post |
Welp, RIP running game. Autenreith out for the year. Maybe Angeline has learned how to become a non-terrible blocker. 9/23/2019 6:36:52 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
I sure hope one Tight End isn't the key to our entire rushing attack 9/23/2019 8:20:06 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37676 Posts user info edit post |
In the rivers gator bowl year, Sean bertons injury had a huge effect on our run game 9/23/2019 8:41:14 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27830 Posts user info edit post |
Well, we averaged over 50 more rushing yards per game in the games he played last year versus the games he was out with injury. So he's definitely a key part of our running game. 9/23/2019 9:07:58 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I sure hope one Tight End isn't the key to our entire rushing attack" |
I'm more worried that he is our captain for a reason.9/24/2019 8:07:00 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Cole Cook graduating definitely hurt our running game last year.
We have other blocking TEs, just hurts to lose a SR leader and captain. 9/24/2019 9:49:13 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Philip Rivers - 31/52 for 401 yards, 5 TDs & 1 INT. NCSU 41 Indiana 38" |
Should have lost that game too. IIRC Rivers hit 2 bombs to Koren Robinson at the death to snatch the win after we looked like shit all day. Pretty sure this was the same day as the last Brent Rd Party too btw.9/24/2019 10:16:46 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
DD has himself some troubles brewing. Injuries, lack of depth/experience. But as stated earlier, it's clear that Drink and Ledford were HUGE parts of this staff. There is definite drop off.
Making a bowl will be the goal and thats sad with DD in his 7th year.
the 335 still blows sausage 9/24/2019 10:29:27 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25506 Posts user info edit post |
^idk about all that. This was a rebuild year all along. We were hopeful it would be an easier rebuild due to a weaker schedule. We have been looking at 2020 and 2021 as years where we’ll have more experience, especially for some of our younger talent. I don’t think there’s any reason to say DD is in trouble...yet.
This is what we are as a program. Very few programs are in a position to never have a rebuild season. I’m not saying we shouldnt strive to be better than we are. But I think there’s maybe 10 programs that never have to worry about rebuilding. We aren’t one of those programs. Such is life as a non power football program. Imo, the truer test for DD will be how those 2020 and 2021 teams pan out. That’s not to say this season should be a total wash, I just think we need to be realistic about what this season’s expectations are/were 9/24/2019 10:57:44 AM |
MONGO All American 599 Posts user info edit post |
Gopack.com clearly states that Authenrieth is a key part of our running game - no clue why anyone would argue otherwise.... but our running attack has been anemic the last two years so who knows how much that really matters.
And preach dms. SP+ is currently giving us a 55% chance of finishing between 7-8 wins. Solid year for new QB/OC/OL coach/replacing several offensive skill positions. There was obviously going to be a drop-off after Finley & the rest of our offense/Drink/Ledford left.
I've been skeptical of the OC's so far this year but tbf it's their first time as OCs with a new QB. DD hired Drink and Ledford, I have no reason to think he (or his staff) won't sort the rest of his staff out. 9/24/2019 12:40:09 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is what we are as a program. Very few programs are in a position to never have a rebuild season." |
Very much this. And DD should be getting tons of credit for this, not shitted on. Throughout the entirety of our programs history, we have never seen stability at this high of a level. My God, our program has TWO 10 win seasons in it's history, and people are pissed because our rebuilt offense needs more than 4 games to match an offense run by one of our previous NFL skilled QBs?
How short are your memories that you forget the mediocre-at-best Mike O'Cain years, or the 2-3 wins when we were rebuilding under Amato and TOB.
If we were being honest, this year has actually gone a little better than should have been expected at this point. Our Defense has been drastically better than the previous couple years, and Ingle, Ingram and Wilson look to be the playmakers we hoped they would be at the beginning of the year. If we can get Smith-Williams and McCloud back, we will be in a good position heading into conference play.
Our offense was expected to sputter this year, especially at the start of the season with a new QB and some new additions on the OL. Hopefully MM can start connecting on some deep passes, but overall, he has been relatively mistake free.
Our special teams has actually exceeded expectations, and hopefully we can continue making an impact on the games with our punt return and kicking teams.
Quote : | "but our running attack has been anemic the last two years so who knows how much that really matters. " |
LOL...wat?
[Edited on September 24, 2019 at 2:06 PM. Reason : Nightmare and The Bus were anemic?]9/24/2019 2:01:49 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but our running attack has been anemic the last two years so who knows how much that really matters." |
lol wut? you can go back to not watching games now. i'm done reading what you have to say.9/24/2019 2:37:35 PM |